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Secret Service Probes Elon Musk’s Prez Biden and VP Harris Killing ‘Joke’

www.thedailybeast.com Secret Service Probes Elon Musk’s Prez Biden and VP Harris Killing ‘Joke’

The tech billionaire deleted the X post and then lamented over why no one seemed to find it funny.

The Secret Service has launched a probe into an X post by Elon Musk in which he tweeted that “no one is even trying” to kill Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.

The tech billionaire deleted the post on his X platform and passed it off as a “joke.” However, the White House did not find it funny and instead called it “irresponsible.”

“Violence should only be condemned, never encouraged or joked about,” the White House said in a statement. Now the Secret Service is involved.

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Tech billionaire realises that saying things on the internet can be taken differently than expected... in 2024. Is this guy a complete moron?
- Yes.
  
  Yes yes
- Signs point to yes.
- Is this guy a complete moron?
  I hope it's a rhetorical question and you didn't just now realize it.
  
  Haha nice of you to ask. I knew in some areas for sure but to think someone could stumble into success so effectively with actually nothing to contribute is too depressing to accept.
  
  I think he's a bit(a lot) crazy, but I'm not sure whether he's actually a "complete moron"?
- Yes, actually.
- This was taken exactly how he meant it. He absolutely was not joking.
- It's just a PR cover because he knows as one of the richest people in the world on paper, he could pretty much get away with murder.
  Police protect capital. Legal system protects capital.
  
  I couldn't agree more. I try to forget about it momentarily to protect my mental health but never quite get there.

Revoke his security clearance you cowards.
- He controls SpaceX and the internet over Ukraine.
  We need to take those, too.
  
  SpaceX and American allies' Internet access could be considered to be of national importance

Ah, right, the thing that would get normal people put on a list and held in custody if the president traveled through their region just gets the Muskrat "probed"
- Giggity
- People make comments like this all the time. Nobody is held in custody for it.
- Every normal person is on several lists now regardless of guilt. We just consider that a reasonable search and treat Snowden like a traitor.
- I'd assume in his case the government already has enough eyes over him that if he were to actually try something they would know it before he even considered sending any threats.
  
  It's not so much about him personally trying anything though. The problem is that he's potentially inciting one of the thousands of unhinged people who follow him into doing something.

He also controls the satellites used for communication on battlefields and has already turned them off unilaterally during an important Ukrainian operation in the Black Sea.
He can run Twitter and Tesla into the ground, but SpaceX needs to be nationalized. Its compromise is a national security threat.
- Is he e getting Russian money? Did he just promote the assassination of the American president? I'm just asking questions.
  
  Doubt it. There are no hard indications that he's a russian asset. He's just an asshat.
  
  This is exactly the type of tweet he'd make lol
  
  Well some of Putin's friends helped pay for Twitter so there is some level of connection in there.

I still don't understand how anyone here (or on the internet in general, for that matter) is still asking "Is Elon stupid? Is he a moron?" in response to stuff like this.
Elon's a jackass, but he clearly knows what he's doing with this. He's inciting political violence and then acting like it was an edgy joke as a way to give himself probable deniability. Dude's an asshole, but he's not literally brain dead.
- This is what he was doing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest%3F
  
  Wow, I'd never heard of this before! Interesting, thanks.
  
  I thought about editing that article to reference Musk and this thing, but it would probably be reverted.
- You're so nice about it. Let's be real. He's a Narcissistic predator with too many means to destroy humanity itself and his motivation to do exactly that is transparent, claimed even.
- S T O C H A S T I C T E R R O R I S M
- On one hand, sure, I have eyes and a mostly functional memory. It seems clear cut. Incredibly lucky shitbag.
  But on the other hand, as a proper American I know that the more money and fame you have, the more of a smart person and good human you are. It’s just a rule of nature. And if you’re a terrible parent estranged from your own children, that just shows how dedicated you are to the mission! How else are we going to get teslas and iPhones?
  Hopefully I don’t need the /s, but Poe’s law exists for a reason.
- You don't have to be smart to incite political violence. You're talking about two different things here.
  The man is stupid.
  
  You’re talking about two different things here.
  I'm really not. This very thread is full of comments acting like Elon is a moron for making his stupid "joke", literally playing into his hand. As @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world said, he's doing the "turbulent priest" thing.
- Idk why we need to say we are certain about someones intention. It could just be a mental stability thing, like many people have problems with. His tweets are just far more consequential than a regular persons. He might not be as strongly shaped by social norms due to his fortunate circumstance.
  (Im not defending anything. I just want truth and theres no point in extrapolating the situation further than what we see on the surface... just punish him according to what he did, or become a journalist and get relevant details to judge him further)

Why? He's Rich? It's ok?
- Fuck Elon Musk.
  
  Eww, no.
  
  Not even with a 39 and ½ foot pole!

Hey Grok, what's a good recipe for cooking rich people?
- It's best to start with fresh materials so you're going to want to dress them shortly before preparation.
  
  a marinade or a dry brine not only adds flavor, it helps reduce the characteristic bitterness found in the rich

That should go well, since the Secret Service are renowned for having a good sense of humour about this sort of thing.
- OTOH they did delete all those Jan 06 text messages so I no longer regard them as objective in the performance of their duties.
  
  At the end of the day, they're still cops.

Where’s all that left wing rhetoric inciting violence?
What a giant pussy Trump and Vance are.
Talk about leopards eating your face. This is the leopard eating its own face. This is the violent rhetoric you dumbass motherfuckers.
- Here.
  I hope they don't miss next time.
  
  Same. People who say "you can never condone assassination attempts" are idiots. We make movies about people who tried to kill future dictators.
- Eat the rich! Time for the guillotines.
- I mean I can say some things, problem is I didn't buy a 44 billion dollar megaphone.
- Where’s all that left wing rhetoric inciting violence?
  I think we can all agree that not enthusiastically agreeing with every stupid thing Trump says is exactly the same as calling for violence. In fact, not rolling over and letting Trump have whatever he wants is the greatest sin and makes the (insert bad descriptor) Left the REAL fascists!

Now it’s funny— or, at least, I’m laughing
- I REALLY hope Taylor Swift finds some legal way to sue him for threatening to forcibly impregnate her against her will.
  
  I think the guy is terrible but threatening to forcibly impregnate is not how I read that tweet. Didn't he say "okay I will give you a child" or some shit. That doesn't imply non consent, it sounded to me as an offer, which was gross. Could maybeee be considered harassment, but 1 tweet would be hard to classify as that as well. It would be like trying to make catcalling illegal. It's gross, but by no means would it ever make a law that wouldn't be abused.
  
  Well, yes…
  But I also hope she finds some diabolically genius way to foil him a la Real Genius. I wanna see lasers make a house explode full of popcorn!
  #genxdreams
  
  It's funny/scary how quickly people abandon the first amendment the minute somebody says something gross.

It'd be so cool if it was found out that Musk was an illegal immigrant and he got deported back to south africa.
- Even if he's legal, I saw him eating cats.

“One lesson I’ve learned is that just because I say something to a group and they laugh doesn’t mean it’s going to be all that hilarious as a post on X,” Musk wrote after deleting the tweet.
“Turns out that jokes are way less funny if people don't know the context and the delivery is in plain text"
Wrong lesson learned Elon, people who laugh at your joke are ass lickers whereas people on X are not

I sort of feel like the CIA should already have a file on him filed to the brim with juicy nuggets they haven't really been able to act on until now.
- You're talking about the NSA. The CIA totally doesn't do that.
  
  Sure, cia, sure
  
  Why not both? CIA's files probably focus more on his foreign dealings, the NSA's more on his national dealings.
- No doubt various TLAs have compiled dossiers on various very important people. It would be irresponsible of them not to. People who have so much power and access are intrinsic security threats, and that's no secret to the spy agencies.
  Of course they might frame it differently. They might say that they compile information so that they can make sure that the powerful person doesn't get blackmailed, for example. It's easy to try to phrase things in a way that suggests you're protecting them, when the actual theoretical goal is protecting us from what they could do if things went sideways.

Explain the joke Leon. What’s the punchline?
It’s a straight up threat / stochastic terrorism from the richest guy in the world. The same guy who has a security team follow him around and whines about people tracking his jet as aSsAsSiNaTiOn CoOrDiNaTeS. And treats the poor and homeless that his exploitation and greed creates as “drug zombies” while he’s constantly on ketamine and other drugs.
- stochastic terrorism
  the use of mass communications to stir up random lone wolves to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable
  (Saved you a click)

I wish I too could know if I've ever been probed by the secret service or some other government agency. I've made some risky jokes on reddit before.
- All cool people get on a list one way or another
- I know how you can tell if you've been probed by aliens: you wake up butthurt. Trump gets abducted pretty much every night.

What's wrong with his wrist?
- too much circlejerking with his neonazi buddies

What exactly are they probing? It took me 5 seconds to read the tweet.
- Probably for evidence of intent
  
  So I guess stochastic terrorists will just always get away with it then?

Musk is a proven weirdo nutcase. What a collection of weird crazies - Elon, RFK Jr, JD Vance and the orange felon, along with little "Moses", Johnson and the entire House "freedom" caucus.

There's no way a killing joke could ever involve tragedy.
- Elon was just having one bad day.

Maybe he will start to get a damn clue.
- Narrator: He did not start to get a damn clue.
- I’m sure he’ll just lobby that the secret service should only be allowed to investigate threats against republicans.

Fuck Elon, but the White House saying violence should never be encouraged is just rich.

What a nothing story. Pretty much reads as, "we asked, they said we can't talk about it but if anything happened we're looking into it."
Lonnie sucks. It's too bad I'm not an incredibly rich asshole who can break laws regarding financial stuff, slander, and stochastic terrorism while getting away with it.

“Violence should only be condemned, never encouraged or joked about,” the White House said
The irony is thick.
- The cries of thousands of Palestinian children fall upon deaf ears in the White House.

Make sure to forget the lube when probing him. And make him bleed.
Edit> Found the Musk fanboys :)
- It’s not that you “found the Musk fanboys,” it’s that sexual assault jokes are neither funny nor acceptable.
  
  Oh, my mistake. I didn’t mean to offend anyone’s sensibilities where Musk would get exactly what he deserves. But thanks for making me a better person.

It's (D)ifferent when they do it - https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1835513015094911021
- What's this? 2.5 minutes of 3-second sound bites of random people, without any context except for the poster priming you that Democrats are inciting violence?
  Try harder.
- lol, my thinking impaired friend, you have committed the logical fallacy of false equivalence.
  Elon Musk making a death threat by issuing a challenge to his limp-dicked fascists "And no one is even trying to assassinate..." THINKING FACE EMOJI HMMM
  Is NOT the same as TV pundits advocating for the first amendment right to assemble and petition the government. I'd think that was obvious, but I'm guessing you were.. hmm, home-schooled, right?
  Just like you, Elon can't help putting his stupid on public display, because OF COURSE Biden and Kamala receive death threats. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/tennessee-man-charged-threats-biden-harris-obama-rcna168073

I really liked Biden, but now with it turning out the Democrats and Republicans are traitors to the Republic. I just feel bad for the secret service agents that just need a pay check.
- I can't possibly imagine being this completely uninformed. How do you even dress yourself in the morning?
- now with it turning out the Democrats and Republicans are traitors to the Republic
  excuse me? Please point us to the D traitors. If you're talking about the two assassination attempts, one was from a maga family and spoke heavily of maga support in school and the other voted for T in 2016 and has made political donations to both R and D, in addition to being very clearly mentally ill.
  Where are the Ds stealing and refusing to give back the most confidential docs possible (such as our nuclear sub capabilities and numbers....), where are the Ds deciding they don't like election results and spread lies about cheating whilst losing 50+ court cases (some of which appointed by T or R party) because all of them had no standing/evidence. Where are the Ds interrupting the peaceful transfer of power for the first time ever in the history of the nation? Where are the Ds spreading hateful lies about certain minority groups acting like animals and eating other people's pets? Where are the Ds who continue to rape and defame women while trying to take away their bodily autonomy so they can bleed out in the parkinglot while the doctor waits for the legal window where they can actually try to keep the pregnant miscarrying woman alive?
  ah right, those are all REPUBLICAN traitors. FUCK off with your both-sides strawman bullshit, fascist bootlicker.
  
  Fuck yeah, fucking say it like it is.
  Fuck the people that think they are the middle man in the grey area that can see both sides. Fuck the people that think "they are just people not all of them hate or believe in everything on one side. It's not that black and white."
  This is the kind of shit us people on the left really need to be calling people out for. Fuck the right, fuck Republicans and fuck people that think they are some how different or think they are the voice of reason because they just say false shit.
  "Traitors to the republic" what the fuck is this? Star Wars? These people can get the fuck out of here.
  YOU ARE THE PROBLEM IF YOU BELIEVE THIS SHIT! PERIOD.
  Where are the actual trans people molesting kids while we let the fucking religious people do it and albeit their churches are tax free. Where are the dems signing checks to let Russians weasel their way into our elections. Where are the dems letting a convicted felon have immunity. Where are the Dems screaming make America great again while fucking treating people of a different skin color like shit.
  Where is the crazy fucking left these people are talking about the offended snow flakes that just can't put up with things and cancel everything while meanwhile the fucking right, looking at you Tucker Carlson, screams about how the green M&M is less sexually attractive and that kids these days just don't like women's tits. You are a brain dead jackass if you can get on here and tell me the left is as fucking nuts as the right. I mean get over yourself. You say kids these days are weak and can't even fend for themselves and yet here they are doing so by respecting a woman's body asking for things to stop being sexualized because my god how dare we say a fucking thing about Jesus or how Christ wasn't real. Oh and boo hoo your "freedom or speech goes unheard and no one is listening to how you justify the death of women raped and abused because you just don't think that woman should be able to have an abortion because you are more morally aligned and God would want that kid to end up parent less and abused in a shit system that already doesn't know how to deal with kids." Where are the dems claiming drugs are the issue Reagan sure as fuck didn't give a damn about cocaine but fuck did he ever care about the already abused and mistreated black people doing crack that were segregated in shitty buildings with poorer educational options and needs.
  Where are the fucking dems ramming people with cars the left crazy people killing people all commuting acts of terror at concerts. People like this can fuck off. The only traitor to our system is the convicted president of the United States telling Christians to vote so it will be set and they will never have to vote again. Where are those same dems yelling communism when the fucking billionaire that bought Twitter is genuinely in with the Russians the same Russians built on communism both parties used to be scared of. Republicans don't even know what a fucking communist is and maybe they would know if they would sit down and read the fucking books they feel don't need to be in libraries.
  I mean how absolute stupid do you have to be to not see the conspiracy that republicans swear up and down exist right now. The federal government is the enemy out to own you. Well let me lay it out for you Trump is and his party has been trying to do so for 4 years now.
  Start with inciting hate and violence against anyone that isn't white. Now everyone that isn't white is an enemy.
  Be Desantes, start removing educational books and filtering knowledge then when someone speaks our sending cops to their doors. So now you strip the public of education. You do this with bills you start with women, then minorities, then anyone else that isn't white and a male.
  Make it harder to get an abortion, make it harder to speak up about abuse as a woman. Now you have another man in control of the situation filled with hate.
  Tell people that if they vote this year they won't have to vote again. So you start to threaten with weapons, knowledge, abuse, and human rights.
  Where does that put you? Well now you owe the government your loyalty. You have 1 man in power forever, the same thing repubs complain about already that even Dems think shouldn't happen. Once you have the loyalty you hide history and education saying that the party ever did anything wrong. You filter the Internet results, buy Twitter as the richest person and claim it is a social site of free speech all while inducing assassinations, filtering the same free speech you are against and build a platform of fucking crazy people to.insight that same violence. I don't know about you but I think it sounds like Trump and his party are the last fucking people you want running the place. Ask China what they did and they make you disappear.
  Fuck people who think they are righteous in the middle and fuck the right. And if I am the crazy Dem or the crazy left person you are so scared of well then I would say I am sane compared to someone yelling about white pride when you can't even fucking realize your Jesus was black and your Trump fits the bill of the anti-christ. And what do I do about it call you out. What do you do about it claim the fucking immigrants are eating animals and paranoid I am going to take tour guns. The same guns you swear aren't the issue and that JD Vance says are just the way life is. So you raid a Capitol and kill people. Yeah I would say I am far less scary than you have way more of a reason to say you are the fucking problem.
- Sounds like you better not vote then.
  Note: I'm only giving you this special advice, everyone else definitely should vote.

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