Tulsi Gabbard Completes MAGA Makeover by Endorsing Donald Trump
Tulsi Gabbard Completes MAGA Makeover by Endorsing Donald Trump
Tulsi Gabbard Completes MAGA Makeover by Endorsing Donald Trump
Tulsi Gabbard Completes MAGA Makeover by Endorsing Donald Trump
Tulsi Gabbard Completes MAGA Makeover by Endorsing Donald Trump
I would expect nothing less from this Russian agent.
Hey now that's not fair; Tulsi will sell herself to anyone willing to pay, not just exclusively Russia!
You know, when you accuse every anti-war candidate of being a Russian agent, you’re just making Russia look better than the US.
Why do the Democrats love war so much? Why can’t Democrats be anti-war?
Edit: Reminder that Russia supports Palestinian statehood and has called for the partition of Jerusalem along pre-1967 borders. Has a Democrat ever said that?
You know, when you accuse every anti-war candidate of being a Russian agent, you’re just making Russia look better than the US.
It's not about a supposed "anti-war" stance at all, and you trying to shift the conversation to that just makes you look like you don't want discussions about the fact Russia has been working to destabilize US politics for decades.
You *do *realize Russian interference in US politics has been happening since way before any of this right? Way before even their invasion of Georgia 16 years ago. This isn't new, and it isn't about Ukraine or Israel. It's about recognizing that Russia has been spreading misinformation in the US through things like social media and even our own politicians for decades now. The US military and intelligence communities have been warning about it for just as long, it isn't new. The fact you want to make it seem like this is somehow new means you either haven't been paying any attention, or that you support Russian interests.
Given your attempt to shift the conversation away from Russian interference, I'd say the second is correct.
Reminder that Russia supports
invading its neighbors, so it's obviously very anti-war 🙄
Russia supports Palestine because Israel is an ally of the US. If tomorrow the US decided to end it's alliance with Israel and become allies with Palestine, Russia would suddenly become against Palestine and seek to form an alliance with Israel.
There are few morals in geopolitics and there are no friends, only interests.
Tulsi Gabbard isn't anti-war. She explicitly called herself a hawk on the War on Terror. She's a right-wing opportunist, and like other right wing opportunists (Tucker Carlson, for instance) she might occasionally have a broken clock moment where she criticizes a war, but it's only because she wants to pivot to starting other wars elsewhere.
Tulsi is also a Zionist. She voted for a ban on BDS and called the protests antisemitic. In fact, she said that they were "puppets" of a "radical islamist organization" and, “I’m concerned about it because leaders in the West are not combating it. … Unfortunately, President Biden seems to be afraid to be called an Islamophobe.” This is similar to her criticisms of Obama for being insufficiently hawkish (in her view) on the War on Terror.
Don't fall for right-wing grifters trying to take advantage of anti-war sentiment to push their agenda.
She's not anti-war if she's supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine. She's anti-fighting back.
Lets see what George Orwell wrote about that. Try to read all of it, especially the last paragraph. It isnt about being against pacifism, it's about how pacifism can be used by authoritarian regimes on liberal countries and how that societal asymmetry defines the end result.
Pacifism. Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’.
The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security.
Mr Savage remarks that ‘according to this type of reasoning, a German or Japanese pacifist would be “objectively pro-British”.’ But of course he would be! That is why pacifist activities are not permitted in those countries (in both of them the penalty is, or can be, beheading) while both the Germans and the Japanese do all they can to encourage the spread of pacifism in British and American territories. The Germans even run a spurious ‘freedom’ station which serves out pacifist propaganda indistinguishable from that of the P.P.U. They would stimulate pacifism in Russia as well if they could, but in that case they have tougher babies to deal with.
In so far as it takes effect at all, pacifist propaganda can only be effective against those countries where a certain amount of freedom of speech is still permitted; in other words it is helpful to totalitarianism.
Not all wars are good. I was against the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. But this war is one of the few occasions where american interests mostly align with the moral thing, helping an invaded country defend against an imperial invader. This is one of the least controversial and relatively clean cut wars in history.
This dude sees rape and yells "stop resisting".
And... Hilary was right.
(not so coincidentally, that is the name of my wifi network in my red neighborhood, so it can be seen!)
Is it HILLARY WAS RIGHT or BASKET OF DEPLORABLES?
Hilary was right
Again.
Modern day Cassandra.
Indeed. Accurate prophecies, yet not believed.
Edit2: words, format
The 2016 Russiagate smears because she lost to Trump...
The DNC and the politicians bought by the owner-class are the ones pushing out these long-time Democrats.
Tulsi was for Bernie Sanders; I wonder what could have caused such a big shift.
I suggest learning more from independent journalists and not just from owner-class media.
"Independent journalists," but he posts a fuckload of podcasts from far right radical propagandists. I think I prefer fact-based journalism to brainwashing myself, thanks though.
“I know what I mean when I share with you that President Trump understands the grave responsibility that a president and commander-in-chief bears for every single one of our lives,” she said.
I really only have obscenities at this point. Lots of them...maybe all of them.
“I know what I mean when I share with you that President Trump understands the grave responsibility that a president and commander-in-chief bears for every single one of our lives,” she said.
...and he doesn't give single shit about any of those responsibilities or those lives. He will walk on your grandmother's face if it means saving a single step to wrap his small fingers around a can of Diet Coke sooner.
Damn we need that clown meme up in here. I remember when she was a big supporter of Bernie in 2016. So I'm guessing she was just a Putin puppet the whole time right?
I honestly thought she might be Trump's VP.
There was pretty strong evidence back then that she was on Russia's payroll.
And everyone kept refusing to believe it
A woman? No way
behind the bastards QAA did an episode on her, I think. She's involved in some weird cult.
He keeps us in his heart
Sure. Tell that to the women that he took abortion rights from, or the refugee kids that he stripped from families, or the people he tried to deny health care, or the natural disaster victims in blue states that he tried not to help because they voted for the other party, etc etc etc.
This man has never cared about anyone other than himself.
If he’s pretending to care about you, it’s because he thinks you’re a useful idiot that will get him into a position of power that he can exploit.
Hates us with all his heart?
Fucking shocker. Russian shill endorses Russian shill
The timing of her endorsement was not accidental. Gabbard, a member of the Hawaii National Guard, had earlier gone to Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia with Trump to lay a wreath marking the third anniversary of the deaths of 13 American servicemen at the Abbey Gate of Kabul Airport during the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan.
I just want to remind people. You're going to hear about this in the coming weeks. When some dumb fuck tells you that the Afghan withdrawal was a disaster:
Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan will be praised in history books as a political sacrifice that ultimately saved more American lives in the long-run.
The withdrawal from Afghanistan is the the most genuine "the buck stops here", that I can remember. He ripped off the bandaid and it was the right call
The only question I ask is, who started both illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan??
Republicans! W Bush. Everything else is bullshittery designed to deflect blame from Republicans and the mess they caused.
I've said it before, Republicans are assholes that take a shit in your living room then complain about how you are cleaning it up and how you're not fast enough.
Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan will be praised in history books as a political sacrifice that ultimately saved more American lives in the long-run.
Maybe. But I still hear people insist we could have won Vietnam.
She is a Russian asset.
Tulsa Gabbard has the warmth, honesty and vocal tonality of Elizabeth Holmes.
Worst part about this comment, I can't tell who it's a bigger insult to.
We all knew it was coming, you Russian taint.
good news for harris and the dems considering she endorsed like 10 candidates in 2022 and none of them won.
Oh, isn't she the one that's in some weird religious org that's more like a cult? I believe I listened to a podcast or two about her when she was making the rounds a couple years ago.
She's in Science of Identity Foundation and I believe pretty close to the leader. QAA has a two part episode about it and her.
Ahhh, can't have a Lemon party without ol' Dick.
You mean Hinduism?
Science of Identity Foundation, as mentioned by another commenter.
I'm wondering when Sinema pulls the same kind of thing.
the money is too lucrative in legitimate lobbying circles to go fringe far right
who?
What happened to her?
She was always just a scammy blow-hard, just like Trump
Much like Sinema... Or Stein.
So a perfectly moderate and sensible person is a scammy-blowhard?
Did you actually look at a single thing of hers when she ran for president? Not surprised youre on lemmy.world lol lets put it that way. Cant even do research into a good frontend, say bombastic shit and somehow get upvotes from fellow redditors who have come to this community.
Stopped being able to fool people like you.
This is my surprised face.
Further proof that blondes dont have the market cornered on stupidity
This is simultaneously unsurprising and mildly shocking. I don't understand human nature.
Weird to see a rat crawl on to a sinking ship
"When a rat is promised cheese, it'll follow you anywhere."
-Donald J. Trump
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Gold digging twit.
And here I am having been accused before of "bothside-ism" when I said politicians flip flop-- on party or policy wise. Democrats do it but Republicans do it more. It seems that Lemmy forgot about John Fetterman and Tulsi Gabbard. But I don't know, maybe because I came from a corrupt country and not surprised of any backstabbing and flip flopping. Maybe it is biased in favour of Democrats that some Lemmy users have ideological blindspot; or maybe it's a first world problem when people can't believe politicians turn.
Lemmy is way worse in terms of hypocrisy. Some people on lemmy say one thing, then there's other people on lemmy that say the complete opposite. How can you ever trust anything you read on here when there's no consistency in what everyone is saying? I think people that think lemmy is good have a blindspot that prevents them from seeing the terrible people I've encountered on here.
Though it's possible, and this may sound crazy, that individuals within a group may differ in opinion on some things.
Some people on lemmy say one thing, then there's other people on lemmy that say the complete opposite. How can you ever trust anything you read on here when there's no consistency in what everyone is saying?
Why is it so weird to you that there is more than one opinion present on the internet? You could have seen that and concluded that Lemmy isn't as homogeneous as you thought it was but for some reason you decided to interpret it as a conspiracy to deceive you. Not gonna lie, that seems pretty fucking crazy to me.
What do you mean we aren't aren't all part of the collective hive mind?!?!?! That's why i signed up!
I've lived here all my life, and I see it. Unlike the child's fairy tale noting naked emperors won't win any popularity contests.
I'm constantly being bombarded with these supposedly known people who I have never heard of. Just looks like maga trash to me. There are tons of it festering in every city in the country.
You never heard of Tulsi Gabbard? She was pretty prominent during the 2020 primaries.
Nope. Sounds like it was for good reason. I tend to ignore flakes.
Can you expect anything else given the current administration had her added to the Quiet Skies list?
True!
Thanks for bringing up Quiet Skies and Tulsi!
Seems many do not care or know about it.
This whole thread has reminded me of how utterly amoral the Democrats are.
Between that, and the fact that Harris has already escalated the situation in the Middle East (and she's not even president yet), and the fact that I quite respect Tulsi Gabbard (for standing up against the Democrat war machine for 8 years and being relentlessly smeared for it), I think I'm leaning towards Trump now.
Voting for the felon and sex offender because the other side is amoral is... weird.
Donald's track record on conflict is not great. It's obvious they're a regressive cosplaying as a bothsidesing leftist.
It's a strange sort of cynicism. I think the logic is that you know what you're getting with Trump whereas Harris is still an unknown quantity. People like certainty, even if it's certain doom, I guess.
I don't like what's currently happening in the Middle East so I'll be voting for the overtly racist authoritarian who bombed the fuck out of Yemen. Let's "finish the job!"
Removed, slur. "Maroon" is not the word people think it is.
Yes, the Dems are currently amoral and corrupt, but that just means it's imperative that good people take over the party, not join up with Satan. Also, Bernie endorsed Harris, so if you like people who've been fighting the corrupt establishment for a while... I don't know what happened to Tulsi (other than getting fucked over by the Dems) but there's no excuse for backing Trump.
So much hate because she is pro-Trump now.
Sheesh, didnt realize Lemmy is just as TDS as reddit. Yall are so "ORANGE MAN BAD" that you'll randomly shit on others you dont understand. What a disgusting comments section. Here I thought Lemmy was more intelligent than reddit, meanwhile yall are just as alarmist and reactionary.
Almost like people don't want a fascist to be in office huh weird, strange. Absolutely unable to tell why that could be.
No sane person calls someone they disagree with a fascist. That is TDS. I bet you think if Trump wins, gay people will be put in camps and whatnot. All that other alarmist nonsense about project2025 which didnt happen in his prior term. All this saving grace our VP says she will do if elected... that she could just begin right now lol...
Lemmy is a decentralized social community. Maybe Lemmy.world is progressive (and by progressive I mean: censoring communities already lol), but to say the entire mastodon which this relies on is, is foolish.
If this was 2018 I'd probably agree with you, but it's 2024 now and we have an encyclopedias worth of evidence of why Trump is a dangerous human being. If you eat fox News propaganda I can forgive it to some extent. But Tulsi should know better and deserves to be shit on because there very likely is an ulterior motive here that she's not being honest about.
Even if you are pro trump, politicians doing a 180 on their views should alarm you. It's nice to be able to support a candidate with some assurance that they are what they say they are.
I haven’t been paying enough attention to know if this is a 180 or just a continuance of what they were already doing but you should want politicians whose beliefs can change based on new information
I find it odd that she is using her military pedigree as justification for this because of how anti-American military personnel Trump is but she could have been preaching his policies for awhile now
You run into one asshole, you've just run into an asshole. If you run into assholes everywhere you go, you're the asshole.
Also, what's TDS?
Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Basically if you're against Trump, you must be completely obsessed with him and therefore deranged. Sane people don't oppose him. Or something like that
TDS is Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's two-pronged. The MAGASUPPORTERS HURR, they have TDS. The people who genuinely seem to think Trump will commit genocide, they also have TDS.
I hear it often only used towards the left, but no - the supporters can be just as bad. Those people who think Trump is some god who will save us from pedophile elite, that's also TDS.
If all the places are “orange man bad”… maybe there is a reason. 🤔
People get their opinons and info from memes.
It isnt even rare to see people who think trump will cause genocide or evict all citizen mexican-americans... that's nonsensical, and common. It is no wonder that Orange Man Bad is so common when people are told he is bad 24/7 without proper proof or context.
Loser
“We saw this through his first term in the presidency when he not only didn’t start any new wars, he took action to de-escalate and prevent wars. The same cannot be said about Kamala Harris. In fact the opposite is true.”
She’s not wrong.
Assassinating an Iranian general and tearing up the non proliferation treaty?
Trump did more drone strikes in his first 2 years than Obama did in 8.
trump literally dropped the largest non nuclear bomb on afghanistan, threatened to go thermonuclear against north korea, assassinated iran's military leader, ripped up a peace deal, increased presence in iraq, vetoed the bipartisan end of us involvement in yemen, and called for israel to turn gaza into a parking lot.
I'm pretty sure Kamala hasn't started any wars as president.
How is the opposite true about Kamala? The quote just ends there. No evidence is given. Either Gabbard is being sloppy or the journalist is.
How is the opposite true about Kamala?
Because she isn’t taking measures to de-escalate and avoid wars. Her rhetoric has been nothing but hawkish (on Hamas, Iran, Ukraine, etc.).
And now, just days after her hawkish speech about supporting Israel, we’re now seeing Israel initiate conflict with Lebanon. Good job, Kamala. And she’s not even president yet.
Lol man you are working overtime 😂😂😂 half the root comments I've read have been you spouting something goofy. That's some basement dweller shit.