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Does voting for Biden change anything if I live in a deep red area of my state? (Ohio)

There is literally 0 chance the area I live in will be blue. Does me going out and voting actually do anything besides add to the popular vote tally?

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  • Yes because there are more options than just president, and increasing voter turnout is always advantageous to the left. There are more Democrats than Republicans in America, so 100% voter turnout means no more fascists in office.

  • Yes! It's the total votes statewide that determines the winner (POTUS and Senator), no matter which areas of the state they come from. Besides that, a showing of more blue votes in red areas makes a bigger statement to powers-that-be, campaign analysts, etc. than blue votes in blue areas. Represent!

    And as everyone else is saying, vote blue for every office on the ballot. The state, county, and city levels are just as important as the national level if not more so. Vote in every election no matter what, even if no one you voted for wins, it matters how close the races are so Dems know where to concentrate their efforts.

  • Vote. Try to get others to do the same.

    Maybe Democrats don't stand a chance this round, but put up a fight. And if Trump loses you might get a chance to vote again in four years - a higher turnout to Democrats in this round might make it seem less hopeless at the next crossroads. :)

  • Elections aren't just about the President. That's arguably the least impactful person on the ballot. Look at your local reps running for state positions, find ones you like, they'll have much more impact on your daily life.

    • Plus, it’s a good opportunity to pay a little closer attention to local politics. My town is getting pretty hot the last few years, with some major controversies

      • siting for a new high school, with hundreds of millions in state and federal funding at stake, and a huge impact on the community for the next half century. They’re racing to open it in time for the coming school year, but the site is still controversial
      • summer closure to vehicles of the shops and restaurant area was a huge hit during COViD period, but now some people want to “go back to normal”
      • huge arguments for and against our strong mayor able to get things done
      • the town bought contaminated land for Pennies but trying to figure out what to do with it means figuring out how to clean it up
      • we have a great sports facility with a large number of astroturfed fields but “the carpet is scuffed and worn”. Can we afford to get it re-carpeted? Is there an advantage to going back to grass?
      • were having a lot of population growth and want to encourage higher density housing in the center of town near shops and transit, but how much can/should we try to control that? A neighborhood near me just got a couple of six story apartment blocks thrown down in the middle of much smaller duplexes and three deckers: is that good or bad? Technically it’s still a walk to the town center and it’s on a new trail, so that’s good, but it’s way out of scale for the neighborhood and would be better closer in with other buildings that size, so I’m glad I don’t live there. I see this one house is now abutting a brick wall almost as tall as the house
  • Getting you to feel like your vote is meaningless is how they win.

  • Absolutely. Voting in federal, state, and local elections makes big differences. I've lived in red and blue states, and my votes have personally swayed policy for red and blue states. Some of the stuff I voted for passed on margins as slim as 1,200 votes, in a city of hundreds of thousands of people (guess how many of them voted?)

    As a direct result of me voting, my life dramatically improved because my cut bus lines were restored, the feds rebuilt parts of my city, and people were no longer getting arrested on bullshit charges.

    Further civic action saved one local park from redevelopment.

    So few people actually vote, even fewer with bad takes. So voting can have a profound impact on your life and other's lives. Some of my friends got the right to marry. Some others lost their ability to access healthcare and were forced to move states to access it again. It makes a difference.

    This doesn't end with Americans either. You guys worldwide have had a number of extremely close elections, see the list below. Do your civic duty and vote! It can take an hour or less with a bit of research, and has a surprisingly big impact on your life.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results

  • Yes. Voting is the only way your voice is heard. By not voting, the red majority grows and you effectively do not exist to the political system.

    Voting is how you narrow the margins and increase the popular vote. Voting in your local elections is where you have a better say in how things that immediately affect you area. Voting in local and state referendums is also powerful, as it directly affects your local laws and many times can pass or fail by only tens of votes. It might feel hopeless but it is absolutely important that you vote in EVERY SINGLE ELECTION that you are eligible for.

  • Here in Australia, our voting system means you can't waste a vote. If whoever I vote for doesn't win, my vote gets shifted to the next on my list.

    Every year I vote for the Animal Justice Party, Environment Australia, Progressive Unity etc. They never win, but my vote is still registered as having gone to them. Eventually my vote shifts along and either lands on the greens who win my electorate, or labour. But they'll still see that the Animal Justice Party DID get a lot of votes, and maybe the Greens or Labour will focus more on animal based policy.

    If 49% of your American electorate votes blue, maybe your right wing winner will try to appeal to that sizeable demographic by not being so horribly right wing.

  • Sorry I'm not well enough versed in American politics to know who's blue or red.

    Whether you should vote or not doesn't depend on the people around you. It is your right to have your say. The result is the cumulative effect of everyone in your area doing the same. Whether you think you're surrounded by millions of blues or millions of reds doesn't make any difference. Your perception may be incorrect, and your analysis, that there is literally zero chance that your vote will matter, is incorrect.

    Nobody knows the results of an election until the votes are in and have been counted. It doesn't matter that your area has always been red, blue, green, turquoise, pink or whatever. Areas can change allegiance, and it is by individuals getting out and voting.

    If you don't vote, you strengthen the position of those who vote the other way. It is not considered a protest vote because the system would prefer to consider this as voter apathy. If you want to register a protest vote and "none of the above" isn't an option, find the official way to spoil your ballot paper and do that, but whatever you do, get out and vote.

  • Vote for who you think is the best option. Ohio is a pretty safe Republican state for Trump. I will probably be voting for the Democrat, but you should read up on everyone who is on the ballot and make an informed decision.

  • I'm in a similar situation and will vote more according to my actual politcal preferences than vote blue no matter who. Edit: The left will never rise above this vote blue no matter who statement unless we start voting for the future that we wish to see.

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