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Mildly Infuriating @lemmy.world

NickwithaC @lemmy.world

6mo ago

I fucking hate the job search

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.... Is it possible the office is in Southeast London but the actual work is North and West?
- This is how field service jobs are written in my experience, yes.
- How fucking spoiled are Europeans when they won't take a job on the other side of town??????
  
  I love that you reversed it, when it should be "how terrible do Americans have it where we have to commute so far just to get to work"
  
  And it says the hours are 9 to 5. Who the fuck cares then? If it takes you four hours to get from south east London to north west London, then there’s half of your day. Grab some crisps or some spotted dick and put some footie on your vodafone in the tube.
  
  This could be a 90 commute in each direction depending on where it is.
  
  Where I live, you can drive for three hours and still be within the city limits
  
  I live in a suburb to the east of Phoenix. I wouldn't even consider a job on the west side. Nothing to do with Europe, just the reality of a large city.

Unrelated but this is literally the first time in my life I've seen an actual 9-5 job, I only ever see 8-5 or 9-6
- That extra hour of wage theft is why it's the most prevalent kind of theft.
  
  ✨️unpaid lunch hourrrrrrr✨️
- That seems like a US thing? All Nordic Europe countries 8-16 is the US version of 9-5. 8-17 (9-6) would be a 4 days a week job hitting the normal 37 hour work week.
  
  Not all Nordic countries. The main standard work weeks in Sweden are 40 hours for office work employees. Our collective union agreements for most office work places I know of agree on at least half hour unpaid lunch and at least two 15 minute paid breaks each work day. Every place I worked for had flexible hours, which meant I could choose between turning up between 7 or 9, as long as I didn’t miss meetings and worked 40 hours a week at an average, based on monthly calculations. And any overtime was compensated with double time off and/or monetary overtime compensation.
  This will of course be different for shift work or nurse/doctor positions. But I’ve never worked an 8-16 job.
  
  Definitely not a US thing. Here in the UK I don't think I've worked 9-5 for over 20 years...
- It's because they reckon on 8-hour days but then under UK law they have to give you two 15-minute breaks and one 30-minute lunch. So they decide that they don't like that so you've got to work the hours back so they add an extra hour on and then claim that your break times don't count.
  But the problem with that is the only reason that I'm having a break in the town rather than at my house is because of all the other hours I'm doing around it. So really they should be paying for it. Capitalism is going to capitalism.
- Before my current job, any job I've had had an 8.5 hour shift with a half an hour unpaid lunch. But I managed to score a gig where I have an 8.0 hour shift with a half an hour paid lunch. It seems uncommon in the US, but I guess it must be common elsewhere.
- Yeah, theres an hour for lunch. It works out to 8 hour days
  
  You're supposed to get paid for that.

My favorite is when the title says remote or local to you, but then the body of the posting says you would be required to relocate and that it was intentionally posted in multiple cities to reach a wider audience.
If I wanted to work in Minnesota, I would have searched for jobs in Minnesota.

why does everyone have to have "excellent" skills? just logically not everyone can have excellent skills, or there wouldn't be excellent skills. i very much doubt everyone currently working there also has equally "excellent" skills. you can't just say you have to be perfect. i fucking hate this shit
- In fairness to requiring "excellence", I'd imagine most professionals have excellent skills in their field compared to the average person.
  
  I've worked a lot of different jobs over the years, some well in my skill set, some well outside, and if there's one thing I've noticed, it's that with very few exceptions, knowledge and skills matter very little, what matters most is sucking up to the boss, a skill I am exceedingly bad at. Interestingly enough, one of the jobs where skill mattered most was construction, even when I worked for my uncle, he barely cut me any breaks. He once said "you hammer like old people fuck". Not to mention the number of times he yelled at me because I was shit with a tape measure. "Cut it 3 times and it's still too short". Yeah nepotism didn't help me there.
- What I hate more are the entry level jobs that will be like that. Like bro it's an entry level job and you're expecting people to have a super deep understanding makes no sense. Like I get it's just marketing and a way to lower the number of applicants to get just the really good ones but it makes it so much harder to figure out what level of skill a job is looking for if they all say they want experts with certain skills or tools.
- It’s just marketing.
  It’s like how a 7 or 8 out of 10 movie should mean it’s really great, but actually means it was just “ok”.
  We like the idea that we are getting something above average, which ends up with a skewed idea of what average is.
  
  It's not even that. If they ask for average they get trash. If they ask for excellent then trash doesn't apply and they get average
- Yeah at my job at the end of each week my boss will assign priorities to tasks as not priority to high priority. She'll change them around and discuss why for about 45 minutes and by the end of the meeting every single task is listed as highest priority every week. If everything is always equally the highest priority is anything a priority anymore? Lol

I hate the ones that are listed as remote, but when you read deeper it says remote - in x location, if there was a way to filter those out of searches, it would be convenient.
- Is that the ones where they claim it's remote but really they need you in the office 3 days a week?

I once made the mistake of saying I was willing to relocate, like to a different city or something, and they took that to mean anywhere on the planet. And all the jobs they were asking me about when weird places like Saudi Arabia, and it wasn't even well paid.
- But there were probably benefits like if you work hard they might give you your passport back. Maybe.
- That sounds like a good way to get trafficked lol

My favorite is the remote - location jobs. Almost none of them are actually remote, they just want more people to apply so their quota will be met.
- This is a huge problem. During my several months of job searching that drove me nuts. Completely different stated in the US. Someone’s opposite side of the country. I would report them to LinkedIn and LinkedIn said there’s nothing wrong. Fucked up LinkedIn

- I have to use my hands to finger?! F this nonsense, I'm out.
  
  Toe fuck or get fucked.
- It's a barely legal attempt to scare away people with disabilities, which scares me away too.

Is this a jobs website? Report it?

Search: part time jobs
Results: part time job!
Fine print: full time job, some overtime mandatory
Search: work from home
Some office time required
Search: job at a place
Travel required up to 50 miles
Search: one way international flight ticket Boeing planes only
- All of these. Also...language: English *Mandarion/French/etc required
- Entry level: Minimum 2 years experience

Hey at least it is in the same city, I used to get ones for 2000 Km away.
- Well, it's all Earth.
  
  I await the ones for the Moon or Mars…
- I often stumble across jobs in Antarctica listed in my region. It's right there in the headline, so its easy to skip over them, but i have to wonder, how else would you advertise for jobs in remote locations where most people wouldn't even think to look?
  
  Its funny at that point of my life I would have moved for the right job, but these where often my literal job but in a worse place.

WTF are demonstrable analytical skills?
- The ability to call out BS or contradictory requirements in a job posting.
  
  You're hired!

Sounds like the head office is in SE London but you'll be inspecting areas on the NW side for fire safety adherence, right?
If so, it isn't like the businesses can bring their whole business down to the office for inspection. I bet "Steve" has the area close to the office but "Jane" just quit and they need someone to cover her old area.
- This reminds me of the description of why field positions are listed under remote jobs to often. Yes, the reason I was searching for remote jobs was so I can travel to your remote locations all throughout the day, not because my vehicle has 230,000 miles on it and I can't afford to replace it at the moment.
  
  Sure, but then you're not looking for jobs like "Fire Risk Assessor" which clearly indicates you'll have to travel to sites and Assess their Risk of Fire on site, so you could safely scroll past something like that and look for something like "Remote Computer Doer" that at least indicates it's probably remote computer type stuff.

This isn't just super common either. It's the fucking norm, and the guys who are deviating from the norm are the ones who just plain don't tell you where they are.

You have to go weast and Nouth

Bloody ell mate, u ad to read all the way to the bott um. Bunch o wankers that bunch
- ~~bunch~~ lot

Is 48800 enough to live jn London?
- Yes. Even £20,000 is liveable in London although if you really want to maximise your London experience you'll want more than that.
  
  if you really want to maximize your london experience you should rent a closet in a hallway for £5000 per month
- It does qualify for the city's Living Rent program

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