Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter
Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter
Though the way the leaker describes it makes it sound more like a 3rd person MOBA than a hero shooter.
I just want a nice story driven single player game from Valve again that isn't VR.
Same. Something I can play, save anywhere to deal with life, and pick back up when time allows. I was one of those weirdos who really enjoyed Doom 3 when it came out (with the ducttape mod; that was one mechanic I didn't like) and grew up on old Commodore, Amiga, and PC single-player games and NES/SNES/Genisis RPGs. I want that again.
Have you played A Plague Tale (innocence, then requiem)? It's one of the best story driven games I've ever played. It's entirely linear, so plot urgency doesn't feel artificial like it does in open world games.
I liked the plot of this game, but I did not like it as a game. I have not played the second one.
I played the first one but not the second yet. I did enjoyed the experience and the hairstyles stood out for the character designs with the ribbons.
Valves next game...
SQUEEEEEE!!!!
it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
Won’t hurt to give it a shot, but I’ll be cautiously optimistic.
This seems reasonably different than the headline implies. It's a hero shooter, in that there are classes based on heroes (like Team Fortress 2 as well). The gameplay is more moba it sounds like. I think I've only played one other moba shooter, and it failed quickly, so that's different already.
It's not a copy of OW, and even if it were it could still innovate. Half Life might be a "Doom Clone", but it did stuff no one had done before. There's plenty of innovation potential without inventing a new genre. Even if you do create a new genre, it's probably still just evolution of existing things. No one ever has an original idea. It's always inspired by their environment.
All fair points, and given the way Valve operates (like a free collective) this would only happen if there were some really passionate people leading and working on it.
That said, it’s still a mix of things I just really do not have any interest in. Competitive online game, esports focused, MOBA-like, PvP, hero shooter… that’s a whole lot of hard no-thanks from me.
I’d love some new light-narrative single player and/or co-op stuff from them, though.
Man, I was taught "don't judge a book by it's cover" but you're burying it by it's genre, I hope you can experience new things once in a while .
I hate beets. HATE them. I will eat durian, thousand-year eggs, stinky tofu, and a million other things that most people won’t touch… but beets? Fuck beets. Their sweet-yet-earthy funk is like a dead animal that has just started to decompose. I don’t care if they are cooked, pickled, or stewed in borscht… hate them and won’t touch them. They ruin everything they touch.
This is like that. They are cooking with lots of beet-like ingredients. Some people will love that. But as for me…I hate it… I hate just everything about it… and I hate it because I’ve experienced all those ingredients before. Over and over and over again. What they are making is for a very particular crowd, and I am not part of said crowd.
Edit:This was meant for the person above.
This seems reasonably different than the headline implies. It's a hero shooter, in that there are classes based on heroes (like Team Fortress 2 as well). The gameplay is more moba it sounds like. I think I've only played one other moba shooter, and it failed quickly, so that's different already.
It's not a copy of OW, and even if it were it could still innovate. Half Life might be a "Doom Clone", but it did stuff no one had done before. There's plenty of innovation potential without inventing a new genre. Even if you do create a new genre, it's probably still just evolution of existing things. No one ever has an original idea. It's always inspired by their environment.
Sounds more like TF2 crossed with DOTA, which sounds weirdly fun and hella toxic.
Isn't Smite exactly this?
Can you imagine the chaos of a veteran Dota2 player being matched with a notorious conga dancer?
Try out Predecessor, it's F2P and exactly this
I bet it will be made to run awesome on steam deck.
Isn't an overwatch style hero shooter just team fortress 2? Now get off my lawn, I have clouds to tell at.
Nah. TF2 is a shooter with 9 classes. People can double up on "soldier" for instance. A hero shooter has for one, a lot more classes / heroes (which comes from MOBAs), for two activated abilities on each hero which change the games significantly, and usually disables doubling up in competetive modes. You wouldn't call Enemy Territory a hero shooter for instance.
I think you can get there in TF2 when considering subclasses via weapons loadouts. Demoknight for instance is a completely different play style than normal pipe/sticky demoman.
Competitive shooter
Brooo I just wanna chill and have fun and play some games.
This is what the Bronze rank is for. Join us.
Valve releasing a competitive game doesn't prevent you from doing this. I for one am excited by the potential of this game. Then again, I've been playing Dota for 10 years so maybe I'm just a masochist.
It's a Team Fortress Style Hero Shooter
Because it's a Valve game
Because TF2 Inspired Overwatch
Get it right
So Team Fortress 3
One might think so, but the number 3 in the potential title makes this highly unlikely.
No, no, that's not how this works. No 3s, them's the rules.
Team Fortress: Alyx
No, Counterstrike 2: Good Edition.
Team Fortress 2.5
Whatever it ends up being, I'm not interested. Never cared for competitive gaming. Sad that Valve has decided to use part of their enormous talent pool for, well, this while almost any genre would've been better.
Also, this is already a highly saturated niche. I don't doubt Valve's technical prowess and knowhow to develop a game that can surpass all the other ones in quality, but a gilded turd is still a turd under that gold leaf, even if it's technically the best turd in the world.
That's unfortunate that it's not a genre you personally are interested in, but it is a popular genre and Valve is a business. Just because it's not to your tastes doesn't mean it's a waste of their talent.
Oh absolutely. I'm not conceited enough to imagine Valve is developing games for me or that I'm entitled to anything. Just venting my personal disappointment with their choice. I still consider them the cream of the crop in game and hardware development.
Competitive online games have been Valve‘s focus for well over a decade so it‘s in line with their portfolio. If anything, Alyx was an outlier they only did because they have a headset to sell it with. I think they know what they‘re doing. Sucks for you to not be their target audience though because they are pretty good at making games.
Sounds more like SMITE than overwatch
Or Paragon even. That game was so fun back in the day before it got killed. If anyone can make something that fun again, it's probably Valve.
Why are people angry? This is exactly the kind of game valve has worked on for the last few years.
I'm not angry, but I'm tired of live service esports games. Also the last time Valve arrived late to a trend (Artifact) it didn't turn out well.
Technically, HL1 was Valve arriving late to a trend. (FPSes)
Holy shit, I forgot about Artifact lol.
Because many of us remember before that, when Valve revolutionized the single player first person genre again and again with the Portal and mainline Half-Life games.
Any other dev would have capitalized on the massive interest in a sequel or at least sold off the property so someone else could have continued those franchises.
The valve of yesteryear would've a great single player campaign to go together with the multiplayer, just like Half-Life.
I, for once am excited. I didn't buy Overwatch since I was deeply disappointed in Blizzard, after D3. Then the whole pandering to CCP and Blitzchung fiasco happened and that cemented my decision.
I didn't play Valor ant since I don't enjoy having a Chinese kernel level spyware on my PC.
So this may be something that can satisfy my itch.
Valve famously only works on what excites them. You're yelling me THIS is that?? How utterly defeatingly disappointing.
Like idk, when overwatch came out, it was an absolute blast. I wasn't looking forward to it at all, i didn't care for it a bit until i played it. It just got run into the ground slowly. Also they made team fortress 2 way WAY before, and yeah that's what they excites them.
While I'll likely still play this I have to agree.
Valve's game development division feels more like a weird cult than a proper game company. I don't think they get "excited" for the things that most people get excited for. (Remember when they were excited for a virtual card game where you have to pay for every card?) The Valve of the 2000s is long gone IMO
Is it really surprising? It's not like it's their first competitive shooter.
Just think of the loot boxes they can sell.
The Newscast is not the images. It's an annoying video they embed in all articles and then floats when you scroll. I actually have set an adblock rule to block that shit.
As for the images, for now hotlinking to Twitter images is possible, so:
Calling things an OverWatch style shooter is a bit like calling every first person shooter a Doom clone. Just call it a hero shooter I know what a hero shooter is. You don't need to compare it to another game.
It's bad enough that the term a "roguelike" exists, I can guarantee that hardly anyone who plays them has ever actually played rogue, and fair enough since it's ancient, so they have no idea if the game they're playing is like it or not.
Overwatch is a particularly successful Team-Fortress-like
"Roguelike" has also become very watered down. I see "roguelite" used less often, though it's more accurate, but there isn't a good alternative term right now. Turn-based-dungeon-crawler-with-permadeath is historically accurate but there's a tendency to lump action games like Rogue Legacy and Enter the Gungeon in that needs to be accounted for.
(And no I haven't played Rogue but I did play a bunch of NetHack)
Team Fortress th-… 2: episode 1?
You know this sounds like battleborn and i miss battleborn. I'm kinda excited.
I had a lot of good times and even more bad times with DotA over the years, until I finally freed myself from it years ago.
IceFrog being behind this backed by Valve bodes well, and I think the premise of an FPS/MOBA hybrid has promise, despite the market being insanely oversaturated already.
I'm not really interested in competitive games these days, but I hope it'll be good to watch at least. Following The International was fun even after I quit DotA.
Trust me the market could use some competition. The only thing that really comes close to OW is Paladins.
Ugh, as if we don't have enough of this kind of game already. SMITE 2 and Marvel Rivals are coming soon. Valve for fucks sake, look at how well Half Life: Alyx did. I seriously hope they're working on a future Half Life game or some new story driven style game at the very least. I'm calling it now, Deadlock is going to be another Artifact.
SMITE isn't a shooter, though. Overwatch 2 killed Overwatch and left an empty space. I don't see a problem if two games (or more) try to fill it. I hope they are fun.
That said, it shouldn't be Valve's only focus if fans are expecting different games from them.
Fuck it, I'm down (unless it's a moba, then no thanks)
But when's Half Life 3 coming out?
Never, at this point half life 3 failing would do more damage to the steam sales platform than half life 3 succeeding could make in a million years
It might make Valve unlikely to make another game and a lot of people, including myself, would be hugely disappointed but I don't think it would have any major negative effects beyond those two.
I don't see how that would damage anything though? It's not like people would stop using steam if hl3 is bad. That's ridiculous.
You also can't MTX a Half Life 3 game to hell and back. Years ago, I knew the next Half Life game would be VR. They've always used the Half Life games to showcase new tech or models(the Episodes). Didn't realize it would be VR Exclusive or a prequel.
At least the community has given up and is producing their own sequels and spinoffs.
JESUS CHRIST JUST MAKE HALF LIFE 3 AND PORTAL 3 WHAT ARE YOU DOING VALVE?!?!
At this point, we have some absolutely impressive Portal 2 mods that, in my opinion, definitely make up for not having Portal 3. We've got Tag (the paint gun mod), Thinking With Portals (a short one that gives you the ability to create a clone thing that copies recorded actions), and I've been playing through one I just found out about called Revolution that is pretty cool so far.
I personally like to think that the fans have done a good enough job at creating mods and maps that a Portal 3 would be redundant.
Somehow I get the feeling Valve still had some lingering feelings about the failure of Valve's TF2 comp and they're trying to right their wrongs.
Heavy Update plz
Volvo I beg
Medic: "Later."
Me reading the headline: "Why would Valve make a porn shooter?"
Seeing the Steam store lately I'm honestly surprised there isn't a porn shooter. Imagine if someone went all in making an OW ripoff, but committed to making adult skins. Think about how much money that could make.
Gigantic can't catch a break :(
So they're ripping off the game that ripped them off. The industry is in an absolute state.
There's no such thing as an original idea. Just look at tvtropes. The whole idea is to make a new take on a previous idea, to integrate and innovate. No idea if this will be successful in doing that, but the premise alone shouldn't condemn it.
god this is like when everyone called first person shooters "doom clones", overwatch is absolutely not a tf2 ripoff lmao, and making a hero shooter does not mean it's an overwatch ripoff either.
I really like what I see , and icefrog has been working on it for a long time. If he's involved then I'm interested, the man created the moba genre and IMO the best moba on the market.
I thought overwatch was based on team fortress. Why not just a new team fortress?
The screenshots look like a MOBA such as Smite or Predecessor
That's interesting... bold move though. I can think of MANY failed 3rd person mobas.
Sounds boring.
Dammit.
If companies see titles like Overwatch and Fortnite and want to be MORE like that, then I'm just done with anything other than Indie Games and Singleplayer at this point.
I wonder how many loot boxes will be made and how many lives ruined….
This game doesn’t look terrible going off screenshots, but I’ll wait until an actual announcement. I’m hoping this may lead into them making more games in the future though.
Speaking of Valve games, why did I ever stop playing Left 4 Dead? I need to play that again.
