Trump and His Lawyers Dare NY Judge to Throw Him in Jail

Normal people don't have a few thousand people out there waiting for an excuse to shoot people.

But they should jail Trump anyway. When you have such a dangerous following, it's even more important that the law come down hard.

I think Trump’s legal strategy is he knows he’s lost already.

I'm pretty sure he has lost already and guilt has been legally decided. This is to determine the penalty. FTA:

Engoron ruled in September that Trump's financial statements contained fraud.

This trial is to determine the depth of the fraud, and importantly, the consequence appropriate depending on the outcome. The whole strategy now is to delay and get to appeal probably with the number one goal being to get elected again and create a legal quagmire, or simply ride out the rest of his years until his milkshake-filled arteries realize he hasn't ever had a heart and the only thing that's been pumping this long is pure narcissism.

This is, sadly, probably the least stupid thing he could do, because the more facts you learn about Trump, the more you'd think his fetish is just bending over and getting fucked by a strap-on wielding Lady Justice.

Any normal defendent would be in jail though, probably before the trial even started, but definitely after calling a judge names while in court. I'm simultaneously shocked and not at all surprised he isn't.

Sure. A judge can hold anyone in contempt of court, and they can fine or jail them for any length of time.

I am far from an expert, but I don't believe so. The court can fine them or maybe recommend them for censure and disbarment.

“Furthermore, 18 U.S.C § 2381, states that a person guilty of treason against the United States “shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

When he says that on a fringe social media platform it's "lil extreme"

When Trump says that 5 thugs need to be put to death, who were found Innocent, it's just an opinion everyone is allowed to.

Not sure about this really. You have a great point with the martyr risk, but then again, if Hitler had been executed in 1924, would the whole nazi thing have fallen on its face? Trumpism (much like Hitlerism) is a person cult. Perhaps killing their leader is exactly the kind of thing what people like Trump supporters respect and positively respond to.

The best way to get rid of someone is by shaming them

I think we can be pretty certain that this strategy is not working against Trump. Unless you find a shaming angle that actually works against his supporters. I have no idea what that could be since just about every angle that would work on normal people has been tried out.

To respond to your edit:

Death as a punishment for treason would do a lot to stem the tide of treasonous fucks that are currently holding high positions in our political system.

The time for leniency is OVER. And making a martyr out of a huge sack of shit is just fine- let more of those fucks step out of line and see what happens.

I think it is more towards the fear of him becoming re-elected and death -- while indeed extreme -- would prevent such an outcome.

Not really. It's in line with all US laws to ask for the death penalty

18 U.S.C § 2381, states that a person guilty of treason against the United States “shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”

Considering the scope and impact of his crimes. It would be reasonable to ask for the maximum punishment.

I agree, we should throw him in prison for the rest of his life.

He may be a politician but he's also a criminal and I think that would be the punishment for his crimes not for being a politician. Although hes a pretty awful politician too lol that's not a crime.

I'm 100% with you

Boy let me tell you something about our founding fathers.... This man tried to destroy our democracy, he deserves to die. However, for the sake of our civilized society I would prefer to see him rot in jail until he dies in the most unglamorous way possible that way he can't be made a martyr.

It's as though people want a civil war.

Im glad you have not gone blind.

"This decision is based not only on the odds, but also on an appraisal of the man."

You're conflating two things here. There is absolutely nothing in the cotus that bars someone from becoming POTUS because they are in jail. Imo, there should not be, just like you should not lose your right to vote simply for being a felon.

However, there is something in the cotus that bard someone from being an officer of the state if they've been part of an insurrection. This, imo, should bar him, but I'm curious to see how the court cases play out.

Having their house set on fire, things like that.