3d ago

Finally, Common Ground...

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This
- I wish the average people realized this instead of bickering about which of their country is superior.
  
  I wish people would stop disparaging others just because they happen to live in a particular country.
  Guess what, a single person can't control everything their country does. Get over it.
  
  Watching as over-personification continues to become the death of our species. We deserve an AI apocalypse in many ways at this point. maybe everyone will snap out of it before some theoretical grand tipping point towards certain “dystopian” outcomes will end up coming to pass, though probably not, especially at this rate which I have been seeing continue throughout this year, with regards to “consumer” and “professional” trends
- The game's called "Earthbound", right?
  
  Tho, I don't believe this is a dialogue from the game.
  
  Yes it is

Gratuitous "the".
- yeah needs to match on both sides either "the americans and the chinese" or "americans and chinese" not this weird othering mix.
  
  To be fair, they’re not entirely equivalent. I wouldn’t bristle at all at being called “an American,” but I would never call someone “a Chinese.” In the plural form with a definite article, it doesn’t feel as bad, but I’d probably prefer to say “Chinese people,” whereas “American people” feels a little clunky, though it’s probably the best option if you want to keep both terms the same.
  I don’t think this is necessarily a racist thing though, because I’d probably be fine saying “the French/ Congolese /Japanese*” and “Guatemalans/ Nigerians/ Tibetans/ Swedes.” Demonyms are definitely a weird area of language that feels biased when you see a direct comparison though.
  *interestingly, I couldn’t think of a “new world” country where I would say “the+singular demonym,” but it does sound right for some tribal nations, like “the Hopi/Navajo.” I don’t think it’s uniform though, because “Pequots/Algonquins” sound much better than “the Pequot/Algonquin” to me and I’m not sure why.
- I'm going to start using "the ameri*an"
- OK, so I'm one of the original SJWs
  I'm old and have a bit of a reputation for getting in the face of the ignorant, which isn't always wise, but I'm a principled cunt
  But there is a point where the little things don't fucking matter when the person clearly doesn't have any malicious intent, and only someone trying to be offended would have a problem
  To whit, I was asking an indigenous friend whether they prefer "indigenous" or "aboriginal" when I'm speaking to them.
  They said "the fact that you're even asking means that you're obviously not a part of the problem, so pull the stick out of your arse"
  I suggest you do the same.
  
  Perhaps your indigenous friend's non-sequitor opinion isn't as valuable as you think?
- We aren't bringing back "Chinamen" if that's what you're asking.
  ...I did type it, tho just to see how it looked.
  
  Chinese would suffice.
  
  Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.
  
  The Chinaman is not the issue dude.
  And please Asian American is the preferred nomenclature
  
  What do you mean by the second sentence 🤨

isn't china struggling with deflation nowadays, though? they can afford things perfectly well, they just don't do it
(correct me if i'm wrong i know fuck all about economics)
- It‘s not going well for the average Chinese worker in recent years from what I‘ve heard. The pandemic and crumbling real estate market followed by countries diversifying their economies away from China (albeit slowly) and Trumps arbitrary trade war aren‘t good prospects for China. Xi Jinping‘s rhetoric in speeches went from „prosperity for all“ before the pandemic to „prosperity in moderation“ to essentially saying people shouldn‘t expect anything at all in his „eat bitter“ speech last year and that was before tariffs. Order books are empty and unemployment is rising just like it is in many places of the world right now to be honest. These are economically turbulent times and export economies are struggling when nobody can afford shit.

This post is misinformation.
Statistical Communiqué for 2024 on national economics by the National Bureau of Statistics of China:
"In 2024, the per capita disposable income nationwide was 41,314 yuan, an increase of 5.3 percent over that of the previous year or a real increase of 5.1 percent after deducting price factors"
Tell me how growing your disposable income by 5% a year is "not being able to afford anything"
- 41,314 yuan
  So, in average they had 5k dollars to spend on everything that isn't food and rent... And you are proposing they are rich?
  
  When you can get a fucking delicious and nutritious bowl of noodles and vegetables for 5 yuan or a metro/bus ride for 3 yuan in the USA let me know.
  
  How much money do you think the median American takes home these days with cost of living and suppressed wages? -2000 in credit card debt once the budget gets tallied?

I can only afford
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This is my gripe with tankies. One of the most salient points of 1984:
“It was now impossible for any human being to prove by documentary evidence that the war with Eurasia had ever happened.”
“Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.”
All war is fake except the class war.

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In terms of average purchasing power for the bottom half of their populations
income in USA > 3-fold that in China
personal wealth in China > 2-fold that in USA.
- Interesting graphs. China does have a lot of very poor provinces, even if high number out of official poverty levels. PPP income per capita is much higher in China than US and growing significantly.
  
  PPP national income per capita in USA > 3-fold that in China
  where China beats USA is personal wealth of the less wealthy as mentioned before
  economic inequality
  income: fairly similar & high for both
  wealth: high for both, though USA higher
- An interesting question is which of these 2 numbers is most important. The PPP income measurements could be flawed if the poorest half of Chinese have been able to accumulate double the wealth as poorest half of Americans.
  Even if "attitudes towards savings" are different/a factor, being able to survive while hoping for the upward mobility that savings/wealth provides is more likely than not, a sign that poorer half of Chinese are better off than poorer half of Americans, despite the standard measures of PPP income.
- China has many more socialized services and their income level is far less indicative of overall quality of life
  It has honestly been a long time since I heard someone in the west suggest the chinese economy is struggling at all - i thought maybe something meaningful had happened in the last week or something that changed that picture

Let's get them, boys! Haha just kidding. Am I? Yeah. Haha.
Ha.

I think it's everywhere in the world.

It's been so fun seeing USians freak out at the remote prospect that they might have to live like people in other countries do. USians on Reddit spent the entire 2023 complaining about prices of Doordash delivery, and then they're also irked that games cost 60$ now. But cooking at home for a couple days instead of ordering pizza again? Not an option. “Ooh we have to work all day, we don't have time for cooking.” Well guess how people eat in other countries? They cook at home after work. Boo fucking hoo.
- Eww that's so 1980's though
- It's very funny how consistently ignorant you people are while you're putting on your "me smart and better than those silly Ameridumbs" act
  
  Yeah, so ignorant, we even know how to cook. Unlike the enlightened USians who just have someone else cook for them every day and have yet another guy bring it. And are terrified of having to buy less junk.

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