DOJ tells Republicans that Epstein files even worse for Trump than they thought: report
DOJ tells Republicans that Epstein files even worse for Trump than they thought: report
Seems Johnson knows this. Both him and Trump will keep this shutdown going to stop the forced release of these files it seems. Don't know what kind of plan they're cooking up though.
This is the Panama papers all over again. Another way of proving everyone in power is corrupt and we'll do fuck all about it.
I think this is a little different because I believe in unreleased form this is more of a monkey on the Trump fandom's back. Had they just been released at the start, there would have been massive coverage for a week, but MAGA would believe that Trump's different by being open and transparent about it, and Democrats are just whining and people would forget about it much like the Papers. Whereas this way, it's clear the Republican swamp has something it REALLY doesn't want to reveal, to the point they'd be willing to starve the country and hold the entire government hostage over releasing them.
So much worse than the Panama Papers
Remember, this case is about dozens of rich men raping young girls and the only person who's in jail is a women.
Well, Epstein was in prison until trump had him murdered.
Who says it was only girls?
Who says it was only men?
Jeff Epstein is a woman?
We should blame women for this problem, chef's kiss.
Yep....
Dude, that woman raped and assisted in raping children. She should be in fucking prison.
The fact that a bunch of men should be right next to her does not absolve that vile woman of what she has done.
They just announced that they are thinking about cutting air traffic controllers in the run up to Thanksgiving.
I hope that when the dam breaks it washes away the entire GOP
This would make my year if this happens. I keep hoping this happens, but every time… it doesn’t. They just keep moving the bar on what is acceptable for a president to do. By trumps standards, Epstein himself could have been president.
Two things.
First, I know a lot of people here hate Schumer and the DNS, but they timed this shutdown to perfection. Just before the elections and Thanksgiving. Credit where credit is due.
Second, yeah, I've been waiting for the GOP to go to war with itself since 2015. I remember telling an activist freind of mine that Trump was going for the nomination and she told me that she didn't want to ever have to think about Donald trump, ever.
I hope that when the dam breaks it washes away the entire GOP
If you look at the Labour Party in the UK, they walked in with comically oversized majorities last year. Then they proceeded to govern exactly like their Conservative predecessors - with no few MPs gleaned from the ranks of fleeing conservatives - such that Reform UK is now ready to pick up the Prime Ministership in the next election cycle.
The problem with the modern American conservative movement is that its not confined to the GOP. It is a consequence of the donor base. And the donors continue to be enthusiastically bipartisan.
We must be on like volume 73 by now.
Even if the files contain irrefutable proof that Trump trafficked and raped children with Epstein, Johnson and the GOP know that his base will either dismiss it as 'fake news', AI or otherwise convince themselves that Trump raped kids because the Democrats used their mind control ray to set him up.
I suspect the real reason they want to keep it under wraps is to protect their billionaire donors who will be named in the files.
I figure a big reason they haven't just released some doctored files clearing their names ages ago is the threat of mutually assured destruction from anyone else on the list
Maybe partly. These files scare Trump, too. That's why he keeps lashing out, trying to deflect. He's scared of losing respect... And remember, when he goes, MAGA will fall apart.
"Ok, so, yeah... We know that Trump did all these horrible things to children, but we can't charge a sitting president because of a memo written by another corrupt Republican administration. Sorry our hands are tied! Oh we can't impeach him either because... because fuck you that's why. Sorry not sorry! Vote R in the midterms though! Communism! Be afraid!"
Funny enough, I do not fear communism out of spite for the Republicans. It’s a system of government, and they’re who demonized it. I’m willing to try and remove that bias.
You can only impeach Trump for presidential actions. There are plenty of those.
Epstein related presidential crimes are due to the cover up, not the parties
Not so, but only because of the non-legal-system apparatus of impeachment. They can impeach him for his bizarre clown makeup if they wanted, but they’d have to have the votes to remove him and the GQP will never fold or break. It will just keep getting more compressed and static until it becomes a black hole where no light can escape.
Or, yeah, maybe it did that already.
Covfefe's law: Trump always turns out to be worse than anyone imagined, even when you take into account Covfefe's law.
This is so true. Everytime I think he can't get worse he gets worse.
'Never challenge worse' a wise therapist once told me.
Who would've thought our sitting president being a pedophile and best friends with one of the most notorious human traffickers in history would be such a problem? /s
What, the guy we know is a demented rapist and pathological liar?
Ahh it’s probably fine.
How many people have access to the files right now? Not a single one is doing the right thing. Complicit. If I happened across those files, they would have to murder me to stop them leaking. The level of apathy genuinely makes me wonder if it's wickedness or some sort of actual brain damage from some chemical or virus we haven't found yet.
Fuck
Did you not notice the part where Epstein committed suicide, Giuffre was hit by a bus, survived, and then committed suicide, and Maxwell was paid a closed-door visit by Trump's personal fixer?
They have and will continue to kill to keep these secrets.
If they're leaked and not officially released, then Trump denying their authenticity (a given) will convince more idiot centrists.
The cynic in my thinks those files will do nothing. Short of photos of him raping children (and even then I'm not sure) he's not losing any Republican votes.
They could claim a mistake the first time... But they voted for that vile piece of shit a second time fully aware of what a disgusting piece of crap he is.
Trump biographer Michael Wolff told the Daily Beast that he had personally seen "about a dozen Polaroid snapshots" of Trump and Epstein, in which Trump was photographed with several topless young women on his lap. Wolff said Epstein pulled the photos out of a safe and spread them out "like a deck of cards" on his dining room table.
I bet that is the least compromising thing in those files.
RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES PEDONALD
I wouldn't doubt it if he diddled little boys too. Or at least laughed when his close friends did. Disgusting fucking cancer...
We know he competed with Epstein to take a child's virginity, how much worse can it get?
I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.
President of the United States
I mean, they're hosting a historical shutdown specifically to prevent their release. We already knew they were damning.
As the airports begin to buckle they're going to fold on the shutdown very soon.
At the holidays no less. And today my city had a 2-mile long traffic jam leading to the food bank. This is definitely going sideways quickly.
The files they don’t have that don’t exist that don’t incriminate anyone on a list that is not real that is a hoax is worse than they ever imagined.
America feels like it's evil. Maybe all the people fighting against American culture were right all along.
i mean looking up what the usa did, they definitly dont come accross as the good guys.
and like even that it is called "fighting against american culture".. i dont know, noone called it " fighting against communist/ russian culture" back then either in the usa
This is just a distraction from the Epstein files!
The Epstein files are the distraction. Republicans dismantle democracy while people fight over the files.
Imagine doing something so horrible that you underage prostitutes as a smokescreen.
underage prostitutes
*sex-trafficked children, FTFY
I can't wait for them to release the Epstein Files to distract us from millions of people starving to death!
And the crime wave that comes with hungry people
It must be really bad if
s/Donald Trump/Bill Clinton/g
couldnt fix it
They should have tried the case-insensitive /i modifier. Trump likes his name in all caps.
"global?! That sounds like some foreign bullshit. We only want local; we're the goddamn GOP!"
Yup. Keep your eye on the prize. It's shocking and sad that a whole political party got culty for a pedo, but here we are.
Human trafficking.
This is fine 🔥🫠🔥
Why do you think we have the Epstein shutdown?
Donbald is happy to have millions of children and the elderly starve, flights cancelled during the holidays, etc., if it means he can avoid justice and focus on building his Epstein ballroom.
I mean, being a pedophile is "A OK" in US, it seems. There's no revolt or actual actions being taken to show the rest of the world that, being a pedophile is BAD, and have CONSEQUENCES. Instead; they get voted in as president. I'm in a different country, but I want nothing to do with US, be it at shopping level or otherwise. I don't care for pedophiles or those who enable them. PERIOD.
It's not that being a pedo is OK, it's that being a Republican is the magic "Get Out Of Jail Free" card. Republican pedos are protected at all costs, Republican racists are just "kids being kids", Republican insurrectionists are "Political Prisoners".
I mean, being a pedophile is "A OK" in US, it seems.
What a ridiculous thing to say.
Lemmy is like 80% reasonable takes, 5% Linux hype and 15% the most chronically online shit imaginable.
Pedophile of the United States, Donald J Trump, beg to differ.
Raping kids and being a pedophile are two very different things.
I'd like to know the name of a country which is free of corruption. Then I could go shopping there without any semblance of guilt, I guess.
Oh no! Worse for Trump, you say?
Like... so bad that Kash Patel might actually do something about it? So bad that any one of those 91 indictments from two years ago might result in a prosecution with penalties attached? So bad that literally anything bad might happen to America's Golden Child?
Releasing the Files about the World's RICHEST CHILD RAPISTS would be Damaging to the President! Thank GOD They're doing EVERYTHING they can, like GUTTING Snap Benefits and ELIMINATING Air Traffic during the Holidays, to PROTECT the Epstein List of Rich People Who Raped Children! I LOVE TRUMP! CHECK THE PIZZA PARLORS!
You’re finding your groove, man. Kudos.
My bet is there are pictures of Trump balls deep in several 13 year olds.
The entire inch??
And Putin has them
Not to mention the Moscow Golden Showers.
No he wouldn't do that he is too honest and noble and caring/s
Of Course. No other reason for as many distractions as they've put out there
color me not-surprised 😛
Deflect, lie, and deny is the plan. Soon, Donald "Shit Stain" Trump will tell his buddies on the Supreme Court to block the release.
So are we ever going to get to see them?
Well they'll just cook those books.
Can't they claim national security and keep these from getting out? I mean the country will descend into abject chaos if this gets out. I for one don't want to see it, but it's be happy for him to perp walk straight into prison where he will be treated like the pedo he is, which would be far more satisfying
I think ultimately the epstein files will hurt them less released than as a thing they are keeping from being released and I think the government shutdown is hurting them more than that. Their stupidity is their only saving grace.
What if Trump has children who are 15yrs younger than their mothers?
That would be wild.
Edit: probably not after listening to his victims testimony it seems like he always insisted on using protection.
Seems legit .. hey where was all this energy when Biden spent his entire presidency covering these up? We know who was on the flight logs and we know that Trump wasn’t on them.. you know Biden pardon his son who videoed himself molesting his 14yo dead brother’s daughter.. we know it for certain we have the video.. where’s the energy guys?
Biden didn't touch the Epstein files, they were sealed by courts until late 2023 and never subpeonaed by Congress to be made public until 2024 in the first place.
If anything you could claim Merrick Garland covered it up by knowing about all of this and choosing not to expedite Trump's insurrection trial, but even that's a stretch.
You're trying to divert attention away from the files and Trump. If you cared about the energy you'd want them released anyway, and you'd know that if it was something bad for Biden you'd want it out now. The only point to trying to shift blame to the ex president is because you're a fan of the current one.
Nice rage bait. Try harder, loser.
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You know who’s not legit? You.
10 hour old shit take account haha.
2/10 bait. Made me reply.
It was obvious this was the case when they fought so hard to prevent the release. They continued with it even when it's clear that the actions they're taking to keep it hidden it's damaging for them.
My bet is that there's video evidence of Trump raping a minor, or maybe a recording of him admitting it. I don't know what else could be more damning than that.
At this rate they're gonna keep this up until Trump dies.
Like their podcast "heroes", I'm just asking questions here, but:
What if Trump didn't just rape kids? He had beauty pageants where he admitted to walking in on naked teenagers to "inspect" them. He walked around "interviewing" contestants, asking them about their lives. He himself specifically chose a decent percentage of the finalists - and by claiming those spots for certain chosen people, significantly reduced the chances for other contestants. And there were not only the contestants, but a bunch of wannabe contestant-types on the fringes. And a lot of those contests were held overseas.
So, just asking questions here, but: what if Donald Trump wasn't just raping kids? What if he was actively involved in recruiting and trafficking them?
It's hard to speculate on things like that, but when he openly admitted to reporters that Epstein took girls from his spa, it means the investigation would have to be reviewing such
Perhaps Trump is also a cannibal; who knows, maybe... the man doesn't seem to have any morals at all.
This was my thought as well. A lot of what has come to light feels like he may have been more than a customer for Epstein and possibly a supplier via his businesses and Russian criminal contacts
A guy like Trump would be involved in running the thing, not just using it. So makes sense.
And what if he grabbed them by the pussy.
I think there’s evidence that they were more than just bffs.
I think there’s evidence that they were business partners in the trafficking operation. Trump owned children beauty pageants, he had girl servants at one of his resorts, reports of some of those girls winding up with Epstein… I bet there are financial transactions proving it.
Trump wasn't just a customer. He was Epstein's partner and Mar-a-Lago was a hub for international sex trafficking, including child sex trafficking.
They're not the Epstein files. They're the Trump files.
Active participation in not just the rape but the trafficking operation, the big reveal being that he actually solicited these "services" to tons of so far unnamed people?
Remember this isn't just about Trump. He's protecting those padding his pockets and pulling his strings.
Don’t forget killing. Maybe they pushed an underage girl out of a jet at altitude. Wouldn’t be off brand.
There could be video of him and his mushroom penetrating someone underage and so many of his meathead cult members will claim it's "AI" or something.
The only thing that matters to them is in-group solidarity. They are bad people. That is a bad person world view.
Or actively trafficking children.
IMHO he wasn't just a client but a partner.
There actually IS a piss tape and it's underage girls involved. I'm sure Epstein's circle included unscrupulous Russian oligarchs.
Yep. It's not "just" kids cos he could claim "he was drunk and didn't know their age!". It's worse. It involves piss, bestiality, torture etc.
How is that more dancing then what he has already said. Walking in on miss green US change rooms grabbing them by the pussy. He has literally admitted to sexual assaulting the contestants and nobody cares. Just like when/if these files come out nobody well care.
I don’t think that nobody will care, but I think the point you’re trying to make is that his supporters won’t care. That we can definitely agree upon.
I don’t think that’s the case. He said both things but not at the same time. Those are two different gross stories getting mashed together.
Examine the court documents involving Katie Johnson.
Just delay until AI video is good enough to claim it's AI.