Separate Group Chat

The name is clever!

/r/cospenis if this was reddit.

My dad somehow manages to get email addresses into group MMS chats, and each email response creates a new thread

Disclosure: Am Vegan. Don't hate vegetarians.

I think it's because many Vegans perceive Vegetarians as going half the way and then stopping dead.

From a vegan perspective meat eaters are doing something morally wrong. But many have grown up that way and are conditioned into normalizing meat consumption. Many haven't questioned it ever, or reflexively defend it, because it is perceived as normal.

Vegetarians on the other hand seem to understand the problem of animals suffering. Many of them made an ethical decision not to eat meat... and then continue to contribute to animal suffering by consuming other animal products. Understanding that murder is bad and then deciding to commit it just a bit less directly, is a position many Vegans take as deeply harmful.

Personally i am grateful for every single animal saved. Reducing meat or going vegetarian are steps in a direcion i see as good and positive. In my ideal world we would all be Vegans, but i am grateful for every little step in that direction.

Not quite. Vegans don't eat any animal products of any kind. Vegetarians don't eat products that necessitate killing an animal to produce, but allow others. Note that these other products are usually from animals that will be killed for food, and that the animals that won't be murdered still also suffer.

Meatheads love to ruin everything.

What if I laugh and don't?

This is confusing for me. When I was growing up, it was in the aftermath of DDT and all that shit. Organic was what decent people started using to indicate that no awful pesticides like that were used. It wasn’t supposed to be marketing.

I became a vegetarian for environmental reasons and I do think all animals deserve a dignified existance, but my criteria for that is obviously very different from yours.

Still though, it never ceases to amuse me how that forceful impregnation BS is still floating around with people who've never encountered a live animal in their entire life. How about you try getting a male and female pet and do a little study on how small the intervals in between litters really are.

Thanks kind internet stranger. To be told, I was making fun of Ol' Elon Musky and the meme of him being sad, with the words "You guys have a group chat?". Which came out shortly after the Signal Group chat with the journalist.

I never tried one because where i live they don't sell many vegan alternatives to meat, if i get the hands on one i will try it! Maybe it can be a good replacement? I mean, if it taste the same who care.

Becoming vegan was very easy for me. It's essentially a matter of the straw breaking the camels back.

Once I got to the point of "yeah, this is fucked, I don't want to be part of this horror show anymore" I simply didn't want to eat meat.

Congrats and respect!

I've been vegan for four years and honestly, while it was practically not difficult for me, there was a pretty big mental hurdle I had to get over. It sounds silly in retrospect, but I literally mourned foods that I thought I'd never be able to eat. Turns out I still eat all the foods I like, just with small adjustments to make them vegan. So glad I switched. Best decision I ever made.

Honestly I don’t know why anyone would consider it hard: you just stop eating animal products.

Maybe you have a different definition of vegan. Most say “vegan” means no animal products at all. It requires a ton of research to avoid constant minefields, because animal products can be in everything. Dyes, scents, preservatives, flavors, polishes, powders, etc… Even fresh fruit can be non-vegan, because sellers will polish their fruit with beeswax or shellac to make it more shiny, and give it a better shelf life.

I gradually ate less and less meat over 5 years. In the beginning I was just trying to reduce my ecological impact so I cut out beef and pigs first. Perfection is the enemy of the good; if the reader is daunted, then I suggest you just commit to one little thing at a time.

see thats the problem most of the things that i like to eat are animal products. some of them have like 1 or 2 vegan alternatives in the stores, most of them, like kebab dont (within 30 minutes of my home)

like i understand the reasoning, i just never could with the limited alternatives present.

I’d do it too if only because it’s heathier, but almost every recipe I know has meat in it that’s pretty hard to replace, it wouldn’t be easy. Maybe if/when meat gets more expensive, I might give it a try.

But eating meat does not involve fucking animals in the process? What kind of weirdo butcher you were going to.

Because many of the readers here see it as an ethical issue.

And people always forget. "Why do vegans go on and on about it?" Because we want to be able to eat? For my stag do, my brother forgot THREE times to get me vegan products. THREE. And then complained because I "mention it too much"...I just wanna eat!

Interesting that people on either side are being accused of being obsessed when it's the literal subject of the post we're discussing under

And we eat wayyyy too much of it. Partly because it's so prevalent that it's the default in most meals.

You don't have to go vegetarian to skip the meat at Taco Bell that you hardly notice anyway.

As a person who loves eating meat (fish and chicken mostly) I agree that I love some veg dishes

my favorite Indian restaurant

real food has meat in it