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The god of guns demands sacrifices.

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I mean...
To fix it we need free and available mental healthcare, a population with something they don't want to lose, or reasonable gun laws.
None of those things have a chance of happening right now with the current government.
Even if trump passes gun control of some sort it's not going to be reasonable. And that's the only one of the three that are plausible.
But right now no one wants trump to pass any gun laws. Even if Dems get House/Senate in midterms, trump will veto anything reasonable.
- I’m skeptical of the idea that this can mostly be boiled down to mental health (or at least that mental health reform alone is a valid fix) and not social issues. Mental health is certainly a component, but if we actually listen to psychologists they’ve been saying that the massive amount of news around shootings makes further shootings more likely. There’s also no diagnosis or mental illness attributable to the majority of mass shooters to treat to begin with.
  Using the Kirk shooter as an example, according to his friends he was incredibly deep into channer-style irony poisoning. What is therapy supposed to do to fix that? You can’t therapy someone into better mental health if they don’t want it.
  Not trying to jump down your throat or anything, this is just one of my regular soap boxes.
  
  You can give the people in Gitmo 24/7 access to a psychiatrist, but they're still gonna be depressed because that is the logical result of their condition...
  I wasn't saying:
  Do any of these things and it will 100% solve it, ignore everything else
  I could have specifically said that, but I figured people would be able to understand that on their own. I didn't say today was Monday either, some things you just have to have faith in the reader
  
  Sorry for trying to use your comment as a jumping off point and specifically saying I wasn’t trying to jump down your throat, I guess. 🤷‍♂️
  
  Imo it's part of a larger project along with criminalizing homelessness to attack people with mental illness.
  If you go on reddit or other social media it's not in common to see people calling for a return to whatever to their mind imagines as old school mental institutions with forced institutionalization for anything they don't like
- The APA has repeatedly claimed that mental health is not a major factor in mass shootings.
  
  I actually almost completely forgot that APA is an actual psychology association, not just people who decide how papers should be formatted.
- I don't think "mental healthcare" is a silver bullet (pun intended) to fix the problems. That's not going to fix the consolidation of power and wealth. That's not going to get people shorter work weeks, and more quality time with friends and family. That's not going to break up the media megaliths that profit from anger inducing feeds.
  Health care will help, but the problem is conservatism and it's shitty brother capitalism.
- The only gun control which could pass is making it impossible for LGBTQ people and Democrat voters from accessing them.

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