@morrowind
"Duckquill has built in support for loading Mastodon comments see (the example on the theme site), given the link where you posted it. But I don’t much care for Mastodon ...

I prefer Lemmy, where you don’t really care about followers, as long as your content is good and posted to right community(ies). So I made my own."

https://blog.coship.fyi/blog/lemmy-comments/

Well, I'm going to reply from a Mastodon account anyway. So there : P

Zola #DuckBill

Well that worked, I can see my reply as a comment on both Lemmy.nz (where I found the thread) and on https://lemmy.eco.br where @P4ulinKbana is posting.

Now someone reply, I want to see if this works.

@P4ulinKbana @x00z

@P4ulinKbana
I’ve heard it’s (currently) impossible to post on Mastodon with a Lemmy account due to how both are differently built, unless you’re referring to seeing a Lemmy discussion from Mastodon

I'm trying to reply to this with a Mastodon account. I'll be interested to see if it appears in the discussion on Lemmy instances, and if replies to it from Lemmy appear in my @mentions here.

@x00z

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@skullgiver
However, the Fediverse was never just about ActivityPub

Correct. As those of us who used GNU social 10 years ago will never tire of telling you, it was coined to describe the OStatus network. Once all the software using OS adopted ActivityPub, it came to describe the AP network, and anything hanging directly off it (eg Diaspora).

ATProto is part of the Fediverse too

No it isn't, because...

Fediverse software doesn’t speak it.

Same with XMPP, Matrix, etc

@erlendsh

@Hexadecimalkink
Did peerfed ever figure out the bandwidth issues? Is there a way this can scale?

If this is the PeerFed you meant, I'm guessing the answer to both these questions is 'no';

"This paper has been archived and no longer reflects the author's current thinking."

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper

Although I do find this concept intriguing;

"The system consists of two convertible assets, interest-bearing cash and a paid-in-kind perpetual bond."

https://github.com/joshdoman/peerfed-paper/blob/main/peerfed.pdf

@yogthos

@yogthos
An open source/self hosted and federated Tik-Tok alternative, made by pixelfed has just successfully tested federation.

The loops.video announcement by @dansup is here;

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112569573022384441

@regalia
I recommend actually looking at what it looks like on the site, it’s extremely different then how it looks on mastodon

Yes, I'm familiar. I've been following Lemmy development for several years, as part of research for fediverse.party. That's the background to my comments about the algorithm determining what appears on a Lemmy front page.

If you're proposing that there's a more complicated algorithm at work, what do you think it is?

@regalia
Are you replying from Mastodon right now

Yes. Here's the post you just replied to, on the public-facing web page of the Mastodon server I use:

https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110943135468924731

@regalia
the algo for active/hot favor large communties, so smaller ones tend not to show up on the front page

I presume it's the same as what determines which posts appear on the front page of a Mastodon server; chronological order of posts. That would favour the larger communities, since people post there more often.

The other limiting factor, I presume, is a Lemmy server only knows about the communities its accounts are members of. Larger communities will have members on more servers.

@regalia
our algo doesn’t do a good job of promoting smaller communities

Lemmy has an algo for that?

@SupraMario

@deadsuperhero
development of a Go-based backend implementation, Dendrite

Also Rust-based homeserver implementations like Construct and Conduit. Both of which are usable, although missing a few nice-to-have added features. Eg Conduit is still working on;

"E2EE emoji comparison over federation (E2EE chat works)... Outgoing read receipts, typing, presence over federation"

@Terevos @Samsy

@deadsuperhero
the reference implementation everyone uses by default is known to be bloated and slow, and poor at scaling

This doesn't seem to stop the fediverse growing (cough Mastodon cough).

@Terevos

@smileyhead
But noone figured out how to prevent that in federated systems

You've basically got a choice been a centralised service where metadata can be limited but E2EE is mostly pointless (you have to trust the service operators' E2EE deployment), or a decentralised network where E2EE is reliable, but it's harder to limit metadata.

Which one is best depends on the situation/ threat model.

@AngryDemonoid

@deadsuperhero
I’d really love to see a “modern” WhatsApp-like take on an XMPP messenger, but I haven’t found any

Have you looked at @snikketim ?

@poVoq @lps

@Rambi
but how come your username says @null?

No idea. Maybe a bug in your app? Maybe something to do with the fact I'm posting from a Mastodon server rather than Lemmy server?

@theKalash
Lemmy neads a feature where people can “merge” communities from different instances so it appears like a single one

I'm confused by this. I'll admit I haven't used Lemmy much yet, but I thought communities do exist across all servers? So if I join "c/fediverse" on any one server, and you join "c/fediverse" on any other server, we're joining the same community. Is that not how it works?

@Blaze

@itadakimasu
Plus, the Lemmy servers are part of a much larger network; the fediverse. Not just other forum apps like KBin either. Right now I'm replying to this from Mastodon.

I have an alt on a .nz Lemmy server, but haven't got into the habit of using it yet. So at least some of the perceived shrinkage is due to that, rather than any failure of the network. Also due to spam and troll accounts being purged.

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@Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan

@itadakimasu
there’s only 60k of us? And that’s a good thing?

A centralised platform is a numbers game. The money for upgrading servers for growth has to come from one company, and if the platform shrinks it gets harder to get a return on that spending.

It just doesn't matter as much in a federated network. The cost of growth is spread across many servers. Some of which will end up shutting down, for a range of reasons. But others have room for growth.

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@Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan

@theory
Is there a good fedi or p2p alternative to twitch?

OwnCast was designed specifically for this:

https://owncast.online/

PeerTube also has livestreaming capabilities, as well as being able to host recordings of livestreams for future playback after they're over:

https://joinpeertube.org/

There's also #GreatApe, which is entering beta and looking for testers:

https://calckey.social/notes/9f468lwk06

video #LiveStreaming