Yeah I feel like people misunderstand what I'm saying as though I'm considering voting for trump. I'm not at all. I'm just trying to figure out how well voting for Biden sits on my conscience, or if id rather write in daffy duck this year.

Trump is not on the menu for me, and I feel like I've made that fairly clear but not once talking about voting for him.

Funny equals censorship complaint.

You're a fucking removed

Explain to me how being reluctant to vote for one of two presidential candidates due to their policies and global politics is immature. Am I supposed to just say "well millions will die either way but at least sleepy Joe relieved some student debt?"

What's impractical is running a country off of the lesser of two evils vote.

The same could be said for trumps proposed future attempt to remain in office. The military did not ever really side with trump.

Man it's crazy how these people think they can instill some false duty onto any leftist to "do the right thing" without actually weighing each of the choices carefully. They just see a D next to someone's name and think they must be the good guy, regardless of what they say.

Did we all forget about the kids in cages on the border? Or the lack of free healthcare/college? Did we forget about the union busting? Biden is not a good guy, he's just barely better than Trump. He's certainly better at hiding the heinous shit from everyone.

But yeah man, were all bad people and unamerican for wanting a better choice and hating our hand I guess?

You don't care about Palestinian hospitals and children being firebombed? Dope.

Edit: I'm sorry but telling me to grow up while also saying the phrase "trumpian dictatorship" has gotta be one of the funniest things I've ever read.

I truly don't think that matters. If Biden wins trump is just going to claim that the election was falsified again. We're looking at a boiling point situation with no real answer.

Don't get me wrong, I'm probably still going to vote for Biden unfortunately. But people acting like the choice is so clear are not reading the writing on the wall.

Edit: people down voting this forgot that trump and his supporters literally have stated that if he is not in office this year, they will do more than they did on January 6th. Many of them will call for an all out civil war. The problem isn't the end of the next term, it's the inauguration.

Either way you're voting for a Palestinian genocide and the continuation of neoliberal imperialism.

Edit: the future is bleak either way, Biden has explicitly shown support for the continuation of support for Israel as well as the bombing campaign in Yemen and Syria. All this is to say that there is genuinely nothing we can do to help the middle east in this election.

But sure, we can get a better minimum wage or whatever.

Well I'm holding you in contempt in court for making a joke that I didn't agree with. I hope you're ready to pay a huge fine, because this is an open and shut case.

It isn't JUST speech that radicalizes people. There are a plethora of underlying material conditions that contribute as well, but nobody here is talking about any of those. We can't just prevent people from saying bad things, we have to address things like education, poverty, inequality, housing, and journalistic integrity before we can just punish insulting sentiments.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6414414/

https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/radicalization-violence-pathway-approach-studying-extremism

That's fundamentally not the same thing, don't be obtuse for the sake of debate points.

Insults and general demeaning comments should not be punished in the court of law. Saying offensive things should not be punished in the court of law.

As I said before, the action/intent is the part that should be punished. Providing private information about someone who you disagree with or want to incur harm upon is an action with malicious intent.

As a leftist, I fail to understand why we always jump to tone policing and purity politics? We can identify the material conditions that cause radicalization and general bigotry and act upon these things, but we always just jump to punishing people for being radical bigots, which only further galvanizes those positions.

We're not making these spaces smaller, we're making them more volatile by doing this. They see these conversations and think "this is why we have to remove leftism, because they will punish us for crimes we have yet to do" and that's precisely what this argument is.

If you already live in a place that is difficult for you to afford, how are you supposed to be able to afford moving to a different state? You're having trouble paying rent/mortgage, but you're still able to save a few grand to move your whole life across state lines? What about changes in your income due to the change of state?

There are so many more factors than "you make x, this place costs y, so move dipshit."

So you get a bunch of radicalized people that say shit but don't do anything about it?

In order for that group of radicalized people to be dangerous, they would have to do something right? Maybe that means March around in Nazi regalia, maybe that means some sort of assault or altercation. But it's at that point that those people should be charged, not when they are online saying dumb shit.

If they're just saying that, I certainly don't want to be around them but I don't think they should go to prison. If they act upon that, that's entirely different and should be treated as a hate crime.

Also, you just said it. Does context matter to you? What about intention?

Homie I didn't just stop drinking soda. I went vegetarian for two years, work out every day, and started working a physical job instead of from home. I have a diet that is actually very easy to maintain, and I recently started eating fish again to ensure I'm getting more protein to gain muscle.

Thanks for the long response, but telling people they won't keep off the weight or that their changes are not sustainable only makes you sound like a jackass.

Nah man, Elon husk will eventually colonize some other dog shit planet, and then we'll just be looking at the plot of Hyperion in 1000 years or so.

I ain't never cut an onion I didn't love and that's the gods honest truth

As much as I dislike people spitting hatred at women, LGBTQIA+ folks, and POCs, this is still freedom of speech. You don't have to enjoy it, you don't have to listen to it, and you're certainly free to remove these people from your personally owned spaces. But it doesn't change the fact that people should be allowed to say whatever the fuck they want, otherwise we literally are punishing people for thought crimes and edgy jokes.

People should be judged for their actions, not their words. Words don't actually mean anything without action behind them.

I'm a gay man, and I've definitely given out the occasional f slur pass. Why? Because I honestly think it's funny as fuck when my best friend of 20 years calls me that. He doesn't hate me, he knows and loves my partner like a sibling, and he is my brother. It would be so fucked if he got in some kind of actual trouble for that...

This is why I treat myself to the occasional coke zero and mostly just drink water. Is it boring? I guess so. But I've lost 100 pounds in the past two years and I'd really like to stay this way.

Too many negligent parents, especially in terms of health. Although American health science is pretty much profit lead dog shit

Fourth option: I filled the cart with groceries, it is now my home.