I just mean that the karma system ala Reddit did more than just keep track of it and display it afaik. The data is in the db but a fully done karma system it is not. I could be wrong.
And it’s only a matter of time until that detection can be evaded. The knife cuts both ways. Automation and the availability of internet resources makes this back and forth inevitable and unending. The devs, instance admins and users that coalesce to make the “Lemmy” have to be dedicated to that. Everyone else will just kind of fade away as edge cases or slow death.
Agree. Farming karma is nothing compared to making a single individual polar-opinion APPEAR as though it is other’s (or most’s) polar-opinion. We know that other’s opinions are not our own, but they do influence our opinions. It’s pretty important that either 1) like numbers mean nothing, in which case hot/active/etc. are meaningless or 2) we work together to ensure trust in like numbers.
IMO, likes need to be handled with supreme prejudice by the Lemmy software. A lot of thought needs to go into this. There are so many cases where the software could reject a likely fake like that would have near zero chance of rejecting valid likes. Putting this policing on instance admins is a recipe for failure.
I am not ambitious enough unfortunately, and probably not smart enough either.
It's a game of leapfrog and it's at a little bit of a stalemate because people just pay $5/mo. for a VPN. It was a monetization race and that's were we landed. I'm sure copyright holders are not happy with that, but there's no incentive to develop or change anything because who doesn't have $5/mo?
It used to be that just being on the internet made you trusted enough to get the warez. I don't know how to keep the movement alive with big brother watching out for his homies so hard. Decentralize, encrypt and anonymize I suppose. BT needs an overhaul to prevent attribution. Ten bucks says it's easily possibile but the VPN companies who have our back will lobby against it, lol.
The thing with piracy these days is there is a huge fear of legal burden AND extreme protectiveness to prevent takedowns. It's the same thing as being a gang member and suspicious of new blood being undercover cops. Once you find actual piracy that works, the last thing you want to do is post publicly about it!
I like how someone put it in another thread. From the "defederaters," The argument most seen is: "if there's a nazi at the table and you say nothing, it's a table full of nazis." The most common counter-argument is "it's actually like a stadium full of people with some nazi's in the corner jerking themselves off." From the "federators," the most common argument is "defederation defeats decentralization," and the most common counter to this is simply: "fuck off nazi!"
I find the whole situation quite extraordinary to see unfold and be a part of.
100%. Work together on stability, resilience and privacy while ignoring trolls? Hell no! Let’s focus on creating silos and sniffing our own farts first!
I just mean that the karma system ala Reddit did more than just keep track of it and display it afaik. The data is in the db but a fully done karma system it is not. I could be wrong.