1y ago

Well well 🤨

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Ok, back to meme school for you
- Yeah, the format is that she repeats the second panel on the fourth panel, with more question marks and concern. This version is almost like explaining the joke here.
  
  Is there a community for gently abused memes that I can post this to?
- Lmao you beat me to pointing that out, he totally butchered the template
- This is my favorite Star Trek episode, too. Ruined.
  
  https://picard.ytmnd.com/
  mic drop

Isn't selfhosted started by the same dude that started lemmy.world? Meaning it really is selfhosted? 🤔

Actually an instance dedicated to self hosted stuff would be great. We could have communities specifically for things like home lab, media hosting (Plex, Jellyfin, Emby), unRAID, TrueNAS, shit posting, hardware discussions, general conversations, etc.
This would reduce the strain on lemmy.world and give us all a dedicated home for more niche topics without posts getting buried
- Something like selfhost.edu/c/jellyfin or self.host is a great name too, if I was in the position to do it I would haha
  
  Unfortunately, you can't get .edu domains without being a school
  
  Someone already owns selfho.st, wonder when they are starting up the selfhosted Lemmy instance

Considering how overloaded lemmy.world is right now, a pi in someone's basement would be better, and besides, centralization is bad. Federation is what prevents lemmy from becoming the next Twitter.
- Literally just left lemmy.world because of how brutally slow it's been
  
  Same
- My favorite part is when it finally becomes somewhat less overloaded, and my instance gets flooded with a bunch of posts from there filling the entirety of my front page, and the second page...
- I want to move to a selfhosted instance once I can migrate my account. Anyone knows if this feature will be implemented ?
  
  I think it's far down on their list of things to do unfortunately.

Well, did you self host this meme?

In terms of an optimal load spread, it's best if the lemmiverse is split into multiple equally sized instances. If you use an instance just for yourself, it doesn't actually decrease the load on the main servers in any way. The only thing you get is a guarantee that your instance won't suddenly go down.
- Suddenly going down seems to be a constant in my self hosted services though...
  
  ayo gurl lemme go down on your stack
  
  Bow chicka bow wow
- If you use an instance just for yourself, it doesn’t actually decrease the load on the main servers in any way.
  That's not completely true. Yeah, it still loads another server a bit, but the server-to-server federation traffic is much more lightweight than the client-to-server traffic that would be involved with you having an account on that server and accessing it that way.
  But yeah, multiple, equally-sized communities on different instances is the ideal situation. The only sticky part right now is FOMO because you'd have to constantly watch for new SelfHosted communities and join them. Hopefully some frontend tools come along soon to make joining/managing multiple communities like that more streamlined.
  
  Yes, ideally you‘d want to have a few large communties on each instance and not all topics with a single userbase on one. This not only decreases the load but also prevents scenarios in which a single admin starts to capsule their instance with a large userbase away from the federation.
- Yes, but we're currently evolving into a situation where everything is centralized around Lemmy.world
- I wanna self-host my own instance so I have more control over my data.
  
  I'm going to self host my own instance so I can have a cool username
  
  What kind of "control" do you mean? Your posts/comments get replicated across all the other instances. You can't really "guarantee" a delete, since the other instances might just ignore your request for delete.
  
  You also should be concerned about other people's data on your instance tho
- Also the assurance that your home instance won't be suddenly federated from one of the major ones
  
  As long as you don't let your instance become bot/nazi/tanky swarm, you are green..

I laughed but I dunno about you guys but I don't publicly self host anything. If you can't auth via ssh or VPN then you're not accessing a damn thing from my home network. I've got multiple routers that I could set up some isolation with but it's just too close to home.
- Inside the home even.
  
  Can't get hacked if all your services are down because you can't get those cocksuckingmothershitremovedassbastard routing tables right 🤯
  
  The connection is coming from INSIDE THE ~~house~~ INSTANCE!
- Me having everything open: Come here mother***s I am waiting for all of you.
  VPNs? Cloudfare? Cloudfare Tunnels? Tailscale? What's all that? Here we are fighters not pus***s.
  (Just kidding about the previos comments haha, well I have it open but it's not on my home network... so slightly less problematic and tbh I am planning on closing some stuff, plus all is behind logins, and tbh I kind of like to be able to access to it from anywhere/any computer without having to use any special connection)
  
  Well, now I'm worried about my security. I have an ngrok tunnel running inside a container on a raspberry pi. Do I need to worry about my other devices or if someone tries to attack me only the container is affected?
- Same here.
  A tasker script automatically connects my phone to the Wireguard tunnel as soon as I disconnect from my home WiFi too, so I always have access to my services. It's seamless, if I'm streaming music from Airsonic to my phone, and jump on my bike and take off, I don't even skip a beat on playback.
  
  Ah the magic of buffers.

Do you trust yourself to sustain this considerable commitment?

This meme template NEVER gets old, lmao.... Anakin's face always gets me

I’m hosting one right now. Lemmyunchained.net
But in will have to Limit Users at some point.
I dont Think people properly understand they can be on any server. And join multiple communities. And it all Show up in their Feed. They don’t Need to worry about “which community has the Most Users”
- Yes they can be on any instance, but I'm starting to get worried about the number of communities that are on Lemmy.world
  
  Why is that worrying?
  
  Can you move a community once it's created?
- In practice right now it can be a bit schetchy tbh. Finding and subscribing to them is flakey and searching can be a bit hit and miss too.
  When it does all work both smoothly and seemlessly then we'll be golden.
  
  Yes. Because there’s no centralised list of communities, searching is extremely difficult. Or if not, very time consuming. Following every iteration of every node.
  I’m not sure how that can be overcome.
- It doesn’t quite all show up the feed no matter what instance someone is on. In order for content to federate on an instance someone on that instance has to directly access it. I think this is why small niche instances appear to have a trickle of content on “all”.
  
  There is a lemmy seed script you can use as an admin that gets you a "default sub" experience https://github.com/Fmstrat/lcs
  
  Sorry. Was a typo. Says can join* any community and it show up on the feed. They need to join first. Yeas.
- Unless I am mistaken, when the instance you sign up with dies, so does your account? Obviously your content and potentially profile will exist in some state, but you would no longer be able to authenticate, so for all intents and purposes your account is gone.
  While that won’t matter for some, for others that means there is some importance in the decision of where you create your account. Since, once that instance decides to shut down (or if it happens to defederate,) your account goes with it.
  
  Which is exactly why you should self-host. No one to blame but yourself when your instance goes down/away.
  Sadly this idea doesn't mesh well with how communities work given those are inherently tied to an instance, unlike e.g. hashtags on Mastodon. It would suck if some community goes away just because the instance admin got tired of running it.
  
  Yeh. But that’s happened with some of the biggest instances too. I know there are plans to be able to migrate your profile from one instance to another. Once that’s implemented, no reason to mass bombard any particular instance.
- Out of curiosity what has the disk usage growth looked like so far for your lemmy instance? I occasionally selfhost but I'm not a hardcore datahorder or anything so the replication of data from instances you subscribe to has me on the fence.
  
  Lady i checked, it was about 21g used from a 1tb ZFS pool.
  My instance isn’t minuscule though. Few months old and only 20 users. I’m curious about longer term growth though. No idea how long 1tb will last, but I have more of need be.
  (This is my little lab)
- I've seen something like 8 comments pointing people towards their own servers.
  Which essentially guarantees a level of community fragmentation as to prevent community growth, cohesive, or general activity does it not?
  Ideally each community "group" would have their own Lemmy instance.
  
  Yeh. There’s a few servers that donut really well. Lemmy.nsfw is probably the best example I think.
- Unless I am mistaken, when the instance you sign up with dies, so does your account? Obviously your content and potentially profile will exist in some state, but you would no longer be able to authenticate, so for all intents and purposes your account is gone.
  While that won’t matter for some, for others that means there is some importance in the decision of where you create your account. Since, once that instance decides to shut down (or if it happens to defederate,) your account goes with it.

There is always: https://slrpnk.net/c/selfhosting 100% certified self-hosted from free-ranging servers 😅
- Link for easy subscribing
  !selfhosting@slrpnk.net

Shameless self-insert, if you want a new instance, try mine! https://lemmings.world, it's a general-purpose instance and everyone's welcome!

just created an account on @lemm.ee bc of this 🤣
- Eh, I guess I'm doing my part then 🤷

I want to self-host but don't know how to code etc so not sure where to even start
- Never self-hosted Lemmy, but have self-hosted other things in the past. While you don't necessarily need to code, you need a fair amount of code-adjacent skills. If you ever want to get into self-hosting, you should have a look into (at least):
  the linux command line
  ssh
  how ports work
  VPS providers
  DNS registrars
  nginx
  docker (while you don't need it to host things, it makes your life 10x easier)
  
  docker (while you don't need it to host things, it makes your life 10x easier)
  ...until you have a single extra space character hiding 20 lines into your compose file and the whole thing falls over the next time you try to bring the containers up.
  Lint your code and configs every time!
- If you are wanting to self-host outside of your home-lab and use a VPS, it is pretty simple. Ubergeek77 has compiled a docker image to easily install it all in like 5 steps. Take a look, https://github.com/ubergeek77/Lemmy-Easy-Deploy
  #Lemmy-Easy-Deploy @ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat

If you self host a community how would anyone find it?
- post it in New Communities and also it should show in Lemmy Explorer
  
  Now it's full of people who aren't hosting it and it's not self-hosted for them anymore.
  The idea of a self-hosted community is meaningless. It has to attract people other than the hoster to be useful.

Oh my god, I laughed so loudly that I had to explain this comic to my wife. She thought I'm dying already.

Yeah... it is kinda hypocritical for this community to be based on .world, haha. There are plenty of people here running instances, who wants to volunteer as tribute and to sign up to be on call?
- Well, it's self-hosting, right. We each host our own server with our own self-hosting community. Alone. No other posters, commenters, or voters. Just each of us in isolation talking to ourselves about our hosting setup.
  This is a dumb meme, there's no such thing as self-hosting a community. A community only becomes valuable when you share it beyond the hoster, at which point it stops being self-hosted for most community-members. I believe Ruud did actually create this community, which means it is properly self-hosted as much as a successful community can be.
  
  It is, but it's also on a server that's crippled by load. Each community having an instance makes sense as far as load goes.
- the guy selfhosting lemmy.world, is also the guy that made this community. nothing hypocritical about that.
- I've got business fiber, redundant networking, power, storage, and servers! With a bunch of compute sitting offline atm. Would be willing to give it a shot 🤔
  Needs monitoring though.

Also blame the reddit mods for it.
I registered/setup https://selfhosted.forum and I wanted to give it to any of the current mods. They passed because their idea of "we have a lemmy community already" is pointing to lemmy.ml

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