The problem with most ideologies is people getting too fanatical and even if it's hidden it'll come out eventually. You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all the people all the time. Another issue with fanaticism is it has diminishing outcomes. Look at how maga is now harming the right wing voting base. Sure it works for a little while but it's too hot, eventually it burns the hand holding it. At the end of the day every last person on earth wants the same thing, wellbeing for themselves and their loved ones. Whoever gives them that will win their vote. Fanaticism has a way of ultimately diminishing wellbeing.
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Not really though. Under capitalism people are free to quit their job, and go start a company to test their idea and develop their own IP. The vast majority of founders worked for someone else Nvidia is a good example currently. Jensen Huang worked for AMD, Chris Malachowsky worked for HP, Curtis Priem worked for IBM. They had an idea, they quit their jobs and profited directly off their IP. Under a pure socialist system would you be able to quit your job? Who would you get capital from to test an idea? Also if it worked you wouldn't get any profits from it, not even a pizza party or a Friday off even after producing billions of dollars in value. There would be zero incentive to doing anything but the absolute minimum because the compensation would be exactly the same if you did or if you didn't. Why put in 100hr+ weeks of labor for nothing? No matter how hard you worked you and your family wouldn't get anything, your children would be treated the same as the children of a man who put in the absolute bare minimum.
I'm cool with socializing a lot of things but we need to compensate people proportionally to the quality and quantity of value they produce.
Please don't just downvote this. I'm open to discussion and to standing corrected. If you want to downvote then downvote with a worthwhile counter to the point at hand.
It's funny to watch people catch up with what's been happening for years and what was foreseeable at least since 2020. The moment I saw an early version of chatGPT in 2019 I knew pretty much the whole story, although I didn't account for the massive infrastructure build out backlash because I seriously underestimated the resource consumption.
Cool, let's see how she uses her position to improve the lives of her constituents. It's a big moment for a few people to really sell an idea particularly against large amounts of dissent and apprehension. That means they don't need to be normal or good, they need to be stellar. Society is a numbers game and to win the game you need to win the minds and hearts of the majority and that's done by being consistently awesome and doing awesome shit. As much as humans play games, meritocracy is still there aka no matter how much people dislike you, if you're awesome enough for long enough they will love you.
Hmmm I live at the equator so I've never seen a fridge do that. If you're particularly handy you could take a mini fridge, cut a hole in it and attach a circular ducting or large computer fan so you don't have to fill or move any bottles. If you're really handy you can splice the gas loop and stick the hot end outside the room with insulation so you're dumping the waste heat somewhere else. Things get very ghetto or rigged here. I set up a water heating rod (immersion water heater) in a bucket I hung up with a tap to get a hot shower, although one has to be careful not to burn themselves. Another way is to take a hose and paint it black, connect it to the water loop and leave it on the roof / outside so the sun heats the water inside but it's not a large volume, maybe good for 20 minutes of showing when mixed with cooler water. I haven't always lived here but I've always been handy. It's useful to know how to pump water, even uphill without electricity. To set up solar heat motors and other really rigged shit.
But if they wanted to they were free to start a company and profit from their IP directly, they chose not to (assuming they didn't personally choose to sign some perpetual non-compete of which would have still been their choice). That's different than it being illegal to do so. No one ever got rich from working hard? I'm guessing you're unaware of most tech founders who had an idea, left the company they were at, started their own and became wealthy. Nvidia is a good example currently. Jensen Huang worked for AMD, Chris Malachowsky worked for HP, Curtis Priem worked for IBM. They had an idea, they quit their jobs and profited directly off their IP.
This story is extremely common across so many industries. Most founders once worked for someone else, had an idea, quit, and started their own company. Imagine you just work for the government, if you have an idea well cool for you we're not funding that and you want to quit? How about no. Oh we actually let you quit and give you funding for your idea, well your pay will never increase no matter how much value you produce or how many hours you work to bring your idea to life. You work 35 hours per week or 100, same pay. You generated 10 billion dollars of value? You don't even get a pizza party or a short day this Friday.
I'm cool with socializing a lot of things but there needs to be a way to compensate people to some degree based on the quality and quantity of their labor. There needs to be some freedom for a person to do what they want or even take out financial risk (loans) to change what they are doing aka go to school, start a company and so on.
Edit: please don't just downvote, actually respond with a worthwhile point. I'm more than willing to concede a debate and hopefully you are as well.
Yeah that happens a lot with the model most apps and platforms use. The venture capital today, figure out how to actually become profitable tomorrow. That transition is usually messy.
Imagine generating billions of dollars of value and you don't even get a pizza party. Not one dime for you or your family beyond your base pay. There's less incentive to go out of your way to produce value if it's not going to benefit you. No reason to work hard for anything if you'll just be paid the same either way.
Got a freezer, some bottles, and a fan? You got AC. Double points if you have a styrofoam cooler and some ducting.
I think we're getting into different discussions. The jobs people don't want to do wouldn't evaporate. I mean unless you're imagining a future where the majority of labor and menial mental effort is automated then yes I could definitely see people having the freedom to do whatever they desired. As of now though there are a lot of jobs that people would not want to do if there was no personal benefit in it but are still wanted or needed by society.
At least in academia people who produce valuable IP get credentials, fame, a percentage of the money it produces, and of course more money dedicated to their R&D. If for instance there was no benefit in them producing that IP it would be pretty tough to justify the sometimes overbearing work it requires.
Also I agree, value isn't appropriately compensated currently. Money as a concept has departed from value production and it ought to be corrected.
In the past value was direct, food, medicine, clothes, tools and the sort and if one produced more value they could exchange it for more value aka trade more cows for more clothes and tools. There was no real way to fake value like there is with money.
Also how do we determine what to spend resources on for R&D? It would be difficult to come up with an idea, know that it will take lots of labor and know there will be no benefit to oneself or their family vs doing the absolute bare minimum and getting more time with ones kids for the same outcome.
Fix? Not without some eugenics (traditional or modern). Mitigate? We can definitely mitigate it. There was a study recently that showed that it's not really the punishment for a crime that dieters people, it's the probability they will or won't get caught that's the primary factor. So for instance if there's a 98% chance they will get caught people are unlikely to commit the crime and if there is a 5% chance they will be caught they are much more likely to commit the crime even if the punishment is extremely harsh. There's of course a balancing act between personal freedoms and privacy and the ability to catch people aka the more privacy people have the more difficult it is to catch crime and generally the less privacy (and ability to parse large sums of data) the easier it is.
If someone can't benefit personally from intellectual property then why would anyone take the time to create IP? Of course some will do it for the love of exploration but I have doubts it would be to the same degree without that carrot to chase.
Edit: imagine developing the cure for all cancer and you don't even get a pizza party or Friday off, much less any sort of raise or financial incentive.
We totally can. It's just difficult to get past that some people want more than others even if that means harming them.
I'm not sure the goal has been to make the food healthy.. I'm pretty sure the goal has only been to maximize profits and decrease costs within the bounds of whatever is considered legal (including lobbying to maintain legality).
I used their wifi for my place without a Xfinity cable subscription but you could only connect two devices so I used my old phone as a hotspot and that worked for like up to four devices. It was like $10 per month.
You can buy sim cards from Walmart. Last time I was around I was using ultra mobile, although Walmart had their own brand (can't remember the name). It was $40 no subscription for unlimited talk, text, and data although I think mint now has a similar plan for $30 Link there's like a ton of these companies, just go to Walmart in the electronics area near the laptops and whatnot there's a bunch of sum cards and esims you can get with different deals, I'm pretty sure they also sell mint mobile sim cards
When I'm back stateside I just grab one of those monthly unlimited sims for like $35 and forget about it. Dang, you could probably get away with that $10 Xfinity wifi if you have a voip number although coverage probably isn't amazing.
You are choosing to volunteer, that's cool inside any system. Imagine putting in 100 hour work weeks, developing a product like the blue LED or lithium ion battery thus creating billions upon billions of dollars of revenue and you don't even get a pizza party or a Friday off. You get the same base pay and your family gets no benefit no matter how hard you work so may as well not create any value and just do the minimum beyond what you're impassioned to do for free like volunteering.
Also sidebar I am so awfully tempted to make a joke about double tonguing the sax. Like a sax on the beach type joke.