PugJesus @ PugJesus @lemmy.world Posts 4,828Comments 7,826Joined 2 yr. ago
Too fucking late to realize that, twat.
OUR genetic dead-end, comrade!
No, but Shadowheart can't swim and Astarion can't care
"Pug is a good dog; I like it!" - Chairman Mao, probably
Protestants and Catholics, historically, have had a lot of conflict. In the US, Catholicism has been associated strongly with immigrant groups (Irish, Italians, and Latin Americans, primarily), which adds another layer of prejudice.
Lmao, you can oppose a genocide without advocating for US involvement, genius
Ah, the "Might makes right" interpretation of world politics, "If they can't survive without outside help against a much larger enemy, let them die; anything is better than the dreaded Shitlibs(tm) doing something terrible like offering aid"
I'm sure you would've been an opponent of lend-lease in WW2 as well.
It looks like that only the western flavor of Imperialism is bad.
It turns out it's only imperialism if it's the West, otherwise it's National Self-Determination (By Juntas Ruling At Gunpoint).
"Imperialism is bad, Western or otherwise" is apparently too complex.
Only a coward would hide behind Russia in order to avoid condemning the utter depravity of the US and Israel.
Literally did condemn Israel's genocide and the US for supporting it, but I guess that's not important when you have Ukrainian genocide to ignore.
At least you’re not larping as a leftist anymore.
"Opposing genocide in Ukraine means you aren't a leftist"
Yikes.
He worked with people who were willing to work with him - democrats are far less willing to negotiate than LBJ ever was.
lol
You're literally who the meme is about.
You see, unlike the other darlings of Very Serious Leftists, like Hamas, and the Houthis, Ukraine is very Problematic(tm), and not WORTHY of the same kind of support against imperialism and genocide.
A bonus from a recent Very Serious Leftist:
This is what no-theory does to a motherfucker. There are no ‘good guys’ in the Ukrainian war except the people of Ukraine themselves, only giant and bloated imperial states fighting over imaginary territorial lines with the unwilling sacrifice of working class blood. Tankies might object to that war because they prefer Russia to the west, but I oppose that war because the working class is forced to battle over geopolitical supremacy, and in the end will live as indentured servants to the west. The working class have everything to lose and the least to gain from that war. I have zero problem condemning that whole conflict.
No war but class war, bootlicker.
If i could give out three nobel peace prizes, the first would be to the south african delegation, the second to the doctors in gaza, and the third to the houthis. We might disagree on a lot, but i’ll join hands with anyone to fight for the right to self-determination of any people against any genocide.
Turns out anti-imperialism only counts when the group fighting against imperialism is unimpugnable - like the Houthis, and unlike Ukraine.
Sorry your favorite genocider lost, asshole.
Yeah, I'm sorry the less genocidal option lost. Sorry that you think that more genocide was preferable. You'll get to enjoy more genocide, it'll give you good feelies for your left-purism, I guess.
This is what no-theory does to a motherfucker. There are no ‘good guys’ in the Ukrainian war except the people of Ukraine themselves, only giant and bloated imperial states fighting over imaginary territorial lines with the unwilling sacrifice of working class blood. Tankies might object to that war because they prefer Russia to the west, but I oppose that war because the working class is forced to battle over geopolitical supremacy, and in the end will live as indentured servants to the west. The working class have everything to lose and the least to gain from that war. I have zero problem condemning that whole conflict.
No war but class war, bootlicker.
Love that you're pro-genocide for Ukraine, but anti-genocide in Palestine. I guess Hamas is just more well-read on theory and more deserving of your support.
If i could give out three nobel peace prizes, the first would be to the south african delegation, the second to the doctors in gaza, and the third to the houthis. We might disagree on a lot, but i’ll join hands with anyone to fight for the right to self-determination of any people against any genocide.
Except Ukraine, it would seem.
I wish this was at all surprising, but you're the perfect caricature of the kind of 'leftist' I was talking about. You just needed a little time to drop the mask, it would seem.
Damn, they make him sound way more based than he is.
Still sick of this blaming apathetic voters for the clear failure of the Democratic Party.
Bruh, a third of the country sat at home and did nothing as fascism, openly stated, ran to claim all levers of power in the government. If you think voter apathy isn't a serious contribution in this issue, I don't know what the fuck to tell you.
You had mentioned that harm mitigation trumps all moral consideration of choice. That’s short term thinking, one that has gotten us in this mess.
Sorry, am I suppose to prioritize the feelies of people who abstained over the millions of marginalized people who are going to die because of this administration?
Sorry our lives aren't pure enough to be worth your fucking vote.
If democrats want to play chicken putting ‘their’ progressive voting base against their neoconservative principles, that is a failure on them.
This was the most left-leaning Dem platform in fucking decades.
But hey, anything to avoid responsibility for voters ushering in fascism, right?
LMFAO, get the fuck out of here with that white moderate bullshit. Are you serious?? Lol I can’t get over this. It’s like if you took MLK’s ‘the Negro’s great stumbling block’ quote and just removed the part about white moderates.
... because I point out that people who purity test themselves out of cooperating with potential allies over when minimal effort is required on their part will do the same thing when major effort is required on their part?
Fucking what?
Even he knew that the movement’s greatest hurtle wasn’t the actual-fucking KKK, but the democrats who continuously told them that ‘now is not the time’. Lmao.
Which is why he made sure to oppose LBJ, right?
Yes, both sides are bad, that’s why we’re fucking pointing it out so we can fix it.
But with zero interest in doing anything productive to fix it, of course.
What an absolute dipshit revisionist you are.
Ironic, considering that MLK, a socialist, worked with LBJ, despite the Dems being much more gruesome and despicable then.
Guess he was just too much of a shitlib to understand politics on the enlightened level you do.
Oh, did you just not understand what I was talking about? I’m pointing to your complaints about ‘bothsiders’ pointing to glaring issues within the democratic party.
Already pointed out that criticism of the Dems isn't what's being criticized here, but whatever you need to confirm the paranoia that I'm a Fed or a warhawk or whatever it is that you've got going on.
For some reason, Ukraine doesn't get support against imperialism
I’m also pretty sure i’ve seen you in the comments complaining about Houthi rebels and Hamas liberation groups resisting against western imperialism, which to me is a red flag for someone claiming to be anti-imperialism and anti-tankie.
Who knows, but as someone who thinks the US is particularly guilty for war and famine across the globe, even simply ‘supporting’ the war in Ukraine is gross to me.
Of fucking course. Infinite tolerance for 'flawed' allies until that 'flawed' ally is in any way linked to the dreaded shitlibs. At that point, genocide and imperialism become a matter of 'bothsides'.
Love that you've spent the past half-dozen comments talking about how criticism must be allowed for, even when criticizing groups in the midst of fighting fascism, and now you're saying being critical of Islamists is a 'red flag' for being "anti-imperialism and anti-tankie"
If it had anything to do with electoralism you wouldn’t be whinging about this 3 and a half years before the next election
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First, there's no guarantee that the next election will matter at all.
Second, the issue is much deeper - namely, the exact kind of 'bothsides' bullshit that leads people to abstain from siding with the less-vile choice of two in an election will certainly lead people to abstain from siding with the less-vile choice in issues of action that require something greater than an hour of a single day of their life.
Third, why the fuck would you wait until the last minute to address an issue? If there is an outstanding issue that leftists seem to believe that losing and letting marginalized groups be murdered is preferable to picking the lesser evil, why should that not be addressed immediately instead of ten seconds before the next electoral circus?
