OftenWrong @ OftenWrong @startrek.website Posts 0Comments 83Joined 2 yr. ago
What misinformation is it full of? You surely must know if you're confidently making this claim.
Honestly? You have clearly never used it. The fact that you're just parroting what you've heard from others brainlessly is what's truly cringy here. Absolutely low IQ behavior. Not worth my time.
It's because they've just decided they hate it/it's just full of dancing teenagers for years now and nothing will ever change their minds. Which is wild because if it ever was that I never saw it and I've been on it for like 5-6 years at least. Everyone just bought into our gov saying they're worried about propaganda/security when my page is mostly filled with memes, gaming stuff, gardening, recipes, cats, news, and now a bunch of people pissed off about the ban.
What really got me is how easily manipulated lemmy/reddit users were the second time they tried to ban it. Tiktok sent out a notification telling their users they were voting for the ban and offering to help them find their local representatives if they wanted to call them and object to it. As they should that's how democracy is supposed to work isn't it? Immediately they got flooded with calls from people like me telling them that we didn't want the ban. Also immediately, the media started to spin it as a bunch of "vulnerable" teenagers and elderly people were forced or tricked into calling in their confusion... And PEOPLE BELIEVED IT. Just ate it right up. Crazy.
It's not going to change ownership because they have said in no uncertain terms that they won't and can't sell. They can't legally sell their algorithm anyway which is basically the whole point of the app. So even if they did, which they have stated they can't and won't, it'll be a skeleton of what we have now at best. At that point it'll just be them selling our data to some shitty US corporation which honestly pisses me off more. The people said no to this, they pushed it through anyway, and to top it off we're once again just having our data handed over to the top bidder. We should be used to people using our data without our consent but it feels especially shitty this time considering we said no.
What kind of content do you think it's providing that's so much more dangerous in some other countries hands? Also, why should I care if China profits off my data when the US has been stealing and abusing it for their own purposes for years anyway?
They can't really have a contingency because they won't sell. They can't due to the laws there anyway. It's been plainly stated countless times. We'll see how it goes but regardless the US gov is playing dirty here under the guise of protecting our security. The people clearly said no the first two times and they shoved it through anyway. I don't see how people don't find that at least a little alarming
You just made my point and you don't even realize it lmao
The apps themselves are wildly different. You think it's a coincidence that this got forced through right before elections? Our gov doesn't like that they can't control the narrative there. They also really don't like how upset tiktok makes the US corporations that fill their pockets. How is that comparable? Unless you think the ban is for security like they're claiming, which is laughable, because it's so obviously not.
I have misiphonia actually lol. I can't eat at restaurants because the sound of metal cutlery scraping together or scraping on people's teeth causes me physical pain and makes my own teeth "itch" for lack of a better word. It really sucks but I don't go around shaming people for eating in a way that's normal for them either.
So, I definitely get it but mocking people for sighing in contentment over their lil toasty cup of coffee seems criminal to me. It feels like there's not enough joy in the world right now to be making people feel bad about silly things like that ya know? :/
Oh you silly! The American corporations ARE the government at this point. But your point is valid either way. I don't think it's just about racism though. I think they want our data back in the US market. None of our corporate overlords can dip their greedy little fingers into TikTok data and that is very upsetting for them.
Facebook literally conducted "social experiments" on like a million of their users and didn't even get a slap on the wrist. What you're saying isn't even true but if it was so what? Another country profits off of stealing my data instead of the US? What has the US ever given me for my data? My taxes already help.fund genocides and I don't get any say in any of it so fuck it.
Because it has absolutely nothing to do with any of that and everything to do with US corporations wanting our data and eyeballs back. If you think otherwise you're just too easily manipulated.
Even if someone hates TikTok for whatever reason this should still piss them off. They tried to do this twice and the people said NO both times. To the extent that they spread a bunch of bs rhetoric claiming people were forced to call their representatives last time because they got so much immediate push back lol. Nobody was forced to do anything. A notification was sent to TikTok inboxes telling people about the vote and offering to help them contact their local reps about it. A bunch of people exercised their rights to have a voice and did just that. That was it. That's what happened.
Now here we are. In an incredibly undemocratic move, they forced the ban through anyway.
If that's what you guys see on TikTok then that's what you interact with and enjoy watching so you're just kinda telling on yourselves lmao
The propaganda really isn't anything different or special though. I've been using TikTok for years and it's no different than any other social media. You interact with what you're interested in and so you see what you want to see. Just like lemmy and reddit and whatever else. I'd argue that TikTok is a bit better for not having US corporate fingers all over it tbh.
If propaganda is valid criticism of the way our government is behaving by our own citizens on their own channels then I guess you could call it that lol. But banning TikTok is already proof that our government is full of fuckery and not working for us. They tried twice before this and the people unequivocally said NO both times. So they shoved it through in a way that makes it more difficult for anyone to hold them accountable. Because of course they did. Even people that don't like the idea of TikTok should be more like you and against this obvious power grab. They don't want to protect us. They want our data back in the US markets and our eyes back on our own homegrown propaganda that they can control. It really is outrageous if you consider it at anything more than surface level.
Facebook literally conducted social experiments on a million of their own users and didn't even get a slap on the wrist. Banning TikTok had absolutely nothing to do with security or stopping propaganda. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a gullible fool.
It was attached because they already tried twice with it as a single issue and lost both times. They forced it through to get their way despite a clear message from the people that they didn't want this. It's so laughably anti-democratic but a lot of the older folks here don't care because it fits their bias of TikTok bad. At the end of the day democracy gets shit on once again because small minded people are easily manipulated into hating something they don't understand.
Why do you want our social media to mirror China? That's the real question. What's the US gonna do with our data that's so much better? Oh yeah, fund our allies genocides! Yay! 🥳
They're not even remotely the same thing... Y'all are so out of touch it's ridiculous.
It's a ban. They have stated in no uncertain terms that they will not sell or separate any interests. It's not for our "security" or any of that absolute BS either. It's for their own profits and because they want people's data.
The fact that you'd want our media to even remotely resemble the highly sensored versions in China is insane to me. Y'all are just happy to go along with this because you don't like tiktok. That's it. That's all it took for a lot of you. I'd say I expected better but it's becoming more obvious every day that lemmy is where the old and out of touch people migrated to. Despite it seeming like it would be the opposite.
You genuinely don't care if the government oversteps as long as it fits your bias. The fact that they couldn't get it to go through as a single issue twice so they had to shove it with other issues just to get their way should be enough to piss most people off but here we are. It's a shame. I'm disappointed in how easily manipulated so many of you are. Truly.
Except for the part where they couldn't get support for it twice so they shoved it in here to get their way? But that's ok because you don't like the silly dancing app that you know basically nothing about right? Other than "China bad", of course.