Hexbear users' OFFICIAL statement on the preemptive defederation of lemmy.world from hexbear.net
Jealous?
:::Honestly if the result of the federation is just every lib instance defederating and having to write one of these "it's not for ideological reasons, it's just that supporting NATO is mandatory" announcements it's all been worth it, that shit is funny as hell
Literally nothing changes for us except them starting internal conflict, which is definitely fun to go poke at with a stick
Just
this out there for the Lemmy libs:Both sides of a war can be bad. We don't have to support either. The working class are the only victims, and will continue to be victimized until peace is negotiated.
I know. I know. This makes me a woke tankie. I bring shame on our house.
War is Bad
The most offensive statement in the Lib-o-sphere
A wankie...
They say in Донецька обл, there are no neutrals there
You'll either be a NATO dog or a бич запада
I think my favorite comment on their announcement was the one that was like, "they're even on MOSCOW TIME!" If that was one of you jokers making a funny, don't tell me. Just let me enjoy it.
There were so many good ones to choose from. The one where they were getting afraid of the wrong instance and it had to be pointed out to them. The one concerned about our mods because them asking us to be polite was a real world "cult brainwashing tactic". The one who'd read Marx but wasn't a communist because no communist organisation in the world today talked about workers or class struggle and actually the Democrats had done more to size the means of production for the worker.
There were a lot of funny ones. The only one that pissed me off was the one that said we were prejudiced on the basis of race, religion, and something else. Gender, maybe? That one almost convinced me to make an account just to say, "Excuse me, what the fuck?" But I managed to make healthy decisions and not get into a fight with a dumbass in the middle of the night.
Lemmyworld is forever going to be referred to as the instance full of pedos, transphobes and fascists that tried its hardest not to defederate an explicitly nazi instance while pulling this shit with a soft dirtbag left instance that spawned from the chapo podcast of all things.
Like, what a fucking reputation to give yourselves so early on.
Liberals hate socialists more than they hate fascists
scratching themselves to own the tankies
Haha, your comment is taken as example by a poster with many upvotes to why it is good to not federate with us. Since it shows people obvious dunking (so people being uncivil) aren't allowed liberal rights of the marketplace of ideas. They feel it is unfair to label them "full of pedos" (for taking to long to ban the stuff, unfair to be labeled transphobes (though there is still plenty to be found on the site, unless hexbear), unfair to be labeled being more friendly to fascists than socialists.
Funny that the unfair labeling of hexbear's userbase doesn't seem to be as unfair.
If they don't want to be labelled as "full of pedos" then they shouldn't be federated with instances serving pedo content while defederating with instances like ours.
They've made their bed, they can lie in it. They think a bunch of socialists are worse than pedos and nazis. They can have a taste of what that means in terms of reputation when thousands and thousands of people repeat it everywhere.
In fairness we are probably the largest community of actual communists and anarchists etc that have read the manifesto and the bread book.certainly in America and kkklanada and probably in much of western euroe, too.
I went to lemmyworld for the first time and holy fuck I didn't realize they were actual libs. Like they're talking about how Biden is doing an amazing job as president type of libs. I thought they were just the lamer side of socialism but no they're actual liberals wtf
Biden is doing an amazing job as president
Hell yeah, strike-breaker and warmonger in chief doing a great job strike-breaking and warmongering.
It's okay that he broke the strike because months later there was some kind of deal I guess. /libs
Child poverty being way up from when Trump, the goofball proto-fascist, was in charge
Their politics comm is cursed.
It's a crappy announcement. I understand where that admin is coming from, I understand why it seems reasonable to block politically-specific communities (well, if they weren't explicitly 'for everyone'). But it's telling that even their own users are saying 'that's dumb'. Not to mention the internal contradictions.
^even a user on the instance that pre-emptively blocked lemmygrad is seeing the problem
At least we can fill up the dunk tank with it. Our mere existence is a threat, it would seem.
wouldn't want anyone to LEARN something or CHANGE THEIR MINDS
did i just catch u tryna DISMANTLE WESTERN PROPAGANDA?
I guess we can legitimately add "I identify as a threat" to the header now.
We're not politically specific, though. We embrace the entire political spectrum from ultra-posadism to anarcho-cannibalism!
We are specifically "a leftist platform", and you must understand how atrocious and radical that is!1
They got super upset about me pointing out that we're over here having a great time while they wring their hands and yell at each other lol
holy shit this is great, one of them is now educating me on what communism is lmao:
This is prime example of my point.
Just so you know, we like communists (mostly, we are communists), we’re generally OK with socialists
Your statement reveals you have no knowledge of the subject or ideals you claim to believe in. Communism is a process in which to establish a Socialist utopia. It was conceived by Marx based on the Machiavellian quote “The ends justify the means.” and was laid out in the Communist Manifesto. It is a militant process in which to implement SOCIALISM by force. I am guessing you are a fan of how things worked out in China?
Your statement reveals you have no knowledge of the subject or ideals you claim to believe in.
I can hear shabibo's voice from here 🤢
New site tagline just dropped
vuvuzela no iphone 1 trillion dead
the dictator carol marx killed a bijillion people in china
"Marx studied Lenin", and sho on <*schniff*>
I am guessing you are a fan of how things worked out in China?
I love the one troll in that thread calling everyone "woke globalist tankies" that none of them can resist feeding
Were we really gonna federate with these nerds? C'mon.
that guy has been going all fucking day I'm kind of in awe
By my count they are up to 100-120 posts in that thread.
Got to respect the commitment.
It's such a good bit
Check out their post history, it’s almost all news articles I’ve seen in the news mega.
wombat the goat frfr
We’ll see who federates who
Relationship ended with lemmyworld. I think Lemm.ee should be the star of the show, it has significantly more potential if turned into the largest instance and from what I can tell the admin is significantly more chill. I thought this about Ruud though and did not believe lemmyworld would defed us before grad so my judgement is
What does it take to get dessalines to put lemm.ee at the top of join-lemmy ?
EDIT: Nevermind they're way ahead of me lmao.
Yeah, I never thought .world would be friendly but this is more drastic than I would have expected.
Never underestimate liberals' ability to throw an absolute fit when attacked from the left. They are desperate to think of themselves as, "as progressive as it gets" and will actively seek out any excuse, including making things up, for why the person telling them capitalism is bad is actually a very problematic individual/organization and are basically the same as Nazis if you really (don't) think about it.
Seen this play out so many times irl, lol. You can't do shit with liberals because once you oppose something they identify with (e.g. a war crimes supporting politician) they will take it very personally.
No wonder you got defederated, you don't know how to be civil 😡 I bet you wouldn't even have a discussion on whether or not the site full of racists is bad.
😤
Why should we bother to reply to lemmy.world? They would reply to us and we would have to reply to their reply. There's no end to that. It would be quite enough for us to announce that lemmy.world is a traitor to the working class, and everyone will understand everything.
P.S. Trotsky Lemmy has sent in a silly letter. We shall neither print it nor reply to him.
Lemmy.world*
I thought it was Kausky inthe original maybe made up quote?
They declared themselves that, we need not do that
I guess the spectre of Chapo continues to haunt
Hilarious that by far the largest Lemmy instance feels threatened by us tho
beehaw.org
lemmy.world
that exploding heads one
anything that Bardfinn is involved with
thank you for your time
Lemmy.world? More like lame.world. Imagine being afraid of a bunch of unapologetic leftists who
We the baddest
We're the posters your mother warned you about (your mom is a lib)
Lemmy world sent us a silly letter. We will neither read it nor reply to it.
lol they can fuck off then. banning shit only makes it more popular, cum to the promised land.
Tag lined: "Hexbear is banned from lemmy.world for using sources when dismantling western propaganda"
They crying and shidding and farting over there
We're supposed to already have knowledge of the other instances?
Which one of you jerks is DDOSing the Lemmy.world instances? I can't dunk on the libs if I can't get screenshots!
They've been having site problems for days/weeks now so I'm sure the calm, rational minds at .world will absolutely and completely blame it on hexbear
It is absolutely true. We did it. I have personally been DDoSing them all morning by hitting their servers with a replica of Stalin's comically large spoon while laughing menacingly.
Direct Dunking On Stupid.
nah that's not us, it's been ongoing for a while
FEAR OF A DOPE ASS BEAR
me clicking on every single one
Let me share my rare pbbs (though one is just pb lol)
Majestic
omg, a second pigpoopballs has hit the towers
you should link this to that admin arguing with you in .world
This is what I was expecting the post to be lol
This just dead dove do not eat-ed me like 20 times in a row and I am ashamed.
Awoo for me on mobile it doesn’t censor them so every time I wanna check the rest of the thread I have to scroll past a wall of PPB lmao
Astonishing.
I, a civil lemmy.world user, saw that the always serious Hexbear tankies posted a pig with poop on its testicles 20 times. This is violence and a threat to the rules based international order.
Fucking "rules based" bulshit. God i love that phrase. Just the most newspeak bullshit imaginable. "We don't follow international law. We made up our own international law and it's just us bullying everyone who doesn't have nukes'
thanks, i had to stop scrolling to click 'show' on every single one
I must admit thought it would ppb in that spoiler
hey, where did you get an official copy of our official letterhead?!
I'd post an emoji like
in mock reply but they don't have them on most of the other sites.L + Ratio + Cowardly Libs + No emojis
When you use an emoji on here it changes it from the short code to a url. :angry-hex: becomes . You can copy that and use it in any other instance with inline images enabled.
Sorry, being the newb here, gotta ask (please) wtf is going on here? Is this legit drama? Or we just sittin round the fire singin' Kumbaya? also, (please) what is the link to that site?
We're bad people and we exult in the misery of others. Seeing the fear in the eyes of liberals over the dread power of our posting creates a feeling of joy in the cinders of our hearts.
Dread is the word that keeps coming to mind for me too, a lot of this Sorkinesque caterwauling is just a fig leaf to cover it. I just wanted to hang out in a nice community that values human life and prosperity, but apparently we're the Flying Dutchman of the lemmyverse, a spooky ghost ship full of shitposting dread pirates. Liberal fragility in the face of evidence is really something to behold, as soon as their affected smugness stop working theu go right to hitting the panic button
Liberals at one of the largest lemmy instances did block our whole instance for anti communist reasons. This means they impede on our
. It is also fun since they are much more lenient with criminal instances that serve nazi content or child pornography.So yeah it is real drama, since libertarian bros, the large public and admins of dot world are three groups that did actions or are bound to react.
The first has to either defend us for free speech or argue that socialism is bad and we don't deserve an audience and platform.
The second is mostly unaware and they are the juicy bucket that is kept from us and we are kept from them, reducing the ability to exchange ideas and communication with them. It is basically a firewall against us in McCarty style, only done by individual US liberal admins.
The third is just anti communist.
Edit
Extra fun is that liberals ban socialists/leftists from a software instance socialists/leftists did create in the first place.
OK, this gives me something to nibble on, and educate myself about. Thanks!
the nerds at lemmy.world (that is the link, you can type it into your browser) decided to pre-emptively block us from federating with them before we ever got the chance to federate them. in that sense, it's legit. but no one here is taking it seriously because no one here wants to be federated with those losers anyway, we're just having fun
lemmy.world admins did a very funny thing. They mimicked their true heroes, the Reddit admins, in making shit up, lying, and contradicting their own holy rules to ban a lefty group from participating on their platform.
The funniest part is that they did this preemptively, so they can't even point to any justification outside of a post here that said, "follow other instances' rules and play nice". They are very concerned by that post, lol.
That page is so glitchy. Some of the comments are impossible to load, and permalinks won't let you "view context" to see comments above.
I thought it was my browser. The context button works on Jerboa.
Considering their instance goes down every day I think their server is just fucked.
I applaud our hexbear admins for ensuring the means of memeing being available!
I will literally poop in all their buttholes
skill issue
::: Hexbear users official response to federation controversy logout
:::
I give up somebody can have the post and format it yhemselves
libs: deathly terrified of hexbear's unstoppable trolling power
meanwhile on hexbear: these two posts lmao
NIGHT OF THE
HEXENBEAR OOOOOOOH
I can open more than one tab and I can click on hyperlinks and I don't understand how anyone gives a shit about this.
no more half measures walter
I saw a post someone on thier defederation thread made. They said (I think unironically, but maybe it was one of you making a joke) That Hexbear Users spread Russian propaganda. We literally spread propaganda for a country like Russia, that is so evil that they dropped bombs disguised as toys in Afghanistan.
Edit: goddammit it YouTube deleted the proof.
Edit 2: so last year I found a video showing Ukrainian special forces, with american special forces training manuals on sabotage, were literally making IEDs out of children's toys and leaving them at playgrounds.
The "Soviets drop toy mines to kill children" is a trope that Reddit's AskHistorians did clear up. It is mostly Western anti-communist propaganda. There is also no shred of evidence of the aim to maim or target children. In fact the Soviets did alter markings on cluster mines somewhat after that. Meanwhile the victims of mines due to US bombardments are somewhat neglected and the US did send - against the advice of its European allies - cluster bombs and cluster mines to Ukraine.
If you look at the map: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbereinkommen_%C3%BCber_das_Verbot_des_Einsatzes,_der_Lagerung,_der_Herstellung_und_der_Weitergabe_von_Antipersonenminen_und_%C3%BCber_deren_Vernichtung
You will find that the US didn't agree to the international agreement against the use of anti personal mines (which includes cluster mines). In fact the US did use that type of weapon in Afghanistan (one of the most mined countries on Earth), Iraq (one of plenty mined countries on Earth), Syria (one of the plenty mined countries on Earth) and in three countries alone over 500 people die each year due to - often US - anti personal mines. Often kids.
However that way is not how I would answer on dot world, facts aren't what works well. Links do sometimes, though.
It looks like we're also no longer planning on federating with lemmy.ml at first. Is that the right move?
Building a website on the protocol that's designed to connect with all the other shared protocol websites and then walling yourself off because you're terrified of all your neighbors.
Cool. Normal. Very good.
We're not terrified, we just don't see the value in letting neighbor Bob, who already does this everywhere else in the neighborhood, into the yard to pull up the flowers, shit all over himself, and then lie about the dog doing it.
If we want to interact with neighbor Bob, we can just leave the yard. There is no real reason to let him in.
But we'll see how this little experiment goes.
This is why I don't like open source shit. Like fine, let people audit the code, but it should be copyrighted or whatever, so that the leftists who developed it can control it. Why are we giving libs and fascists a lifeboat?
There are other Reddit clone softwares other than Lemmy, you know. All that would happen if you close sourced Lemmy would be that everyone would just move to Kbin or something. The liberal/fascist instances would still exist, but we wouldn't get the benefit of contributed code.
Lemmy already has a hard-coded slur filter to discourage use by rightists. For a right-wing instance to use Lemmy, they have to edit out the slur filter from the source code first.
nah the slur filter is no longer hardcoded. it's editable from the admin panel and has been for ages. That's still the first thing that triggered "centrists" bring up when lemmy is mentioned though. Wellll, now #1 might be calling the devs CCP shills, but it is somehow still a talking point because one early-days ycombinator thread about lemmy got all up in arms about it.
need to hardcode pronouns in imo
As a person who uses a bunch of open source software, hard disagree. As long as someone keeps their politics out of their software, I don't give a shit what their politics are. Also, people who are into open source tend to be at the very least "anti-authoritarian" (you'll notice I put that in quotes, because ancap people really fucking suck, even if they are, technically, "anti-authoritarian"). I dunno, copyright isn't the answer to bad political opinions, even if in this particular instance it might work ok for us. I'd much prefer shaming people who have bad political opinions. Let them commit changes to code, but tell them their opinions are bad and they should feel bad.
(I'm also drunk, so this may be incoherent, please cut me a little slack, thanks!)
Yeah but have you considered lemmy being opensource makes techbro chuds mald.
Good, let them do it somewhere that isn't Lemmy.
Counterpoint: it was broken as fuck before the flood of new people (which, statistically speaking, is approximately equal to libs libs libs) and they finally got volunteers who fixed up the database queries or whatever.
And, now there is a better chance for lib->left pipelines opening up without reddit/twitter/etc being able to shut it down arbitrarily when it hits /all/ and have most people too attached to the rest of the centralized monopoly site to move to its remote one-topic bunker site. We now have critical mass in a network that's far easier to draw users from.
kewl
Honestly glad it went this way. They seem awful. I don't want to share internet space with them
Give me a minute, I'll supplement this official statement
