Tulsi Gabbard Completes MAGA Makeover by Endorsing Donald Trump

tulsi isn't even CLOSE to being anti war.....

Reminder that Russia supports Palestinian statehood and has called for the partition of Jerusalem along pre-1967 borders

shocker; russia likes something that divides a country so they can create a wedge /s

You know, when you accuse every anti-war candidate of being a Russian agent, you’re just making Russia look better than the US.

It's not about a supposed "anti-war" stance at all, and you trying to shift the conversation to that just makes you look like you don't want discussions about the fact Russia has been working to destabilize US politics for decades.

You *do *realize Russian interference in US politics has been happening since way before any of this right? Way before even their invasion of Georgia 16 years ago. This isn't new, and it isn't about Ukraine or Israel. It's about recognizing that Russia has been spreading misinformation in the US through things like social media and even our own politicians for decades now. The US military and intelligence communities have been warning about it for just as long, it isn't new. The fact you want to make it seem like this is somehow new means you either haven't been paying any attention, or that you support Russian interests.

Given your attempt to shift the conversation away from Russian interference, I'd say the second is correct.

Reminder that Russia supports

invading its neighbors, so it's obviously very anti-war 🙄

Russia supports Palestine because Israel is an ally of the US. If tomorrow the US decided to end it's alliance with Israel and become allies with Palestine, Russia would suddenly become against Palestine and seek to form an alliance with Israel.

There are few morals in geopolitics and there are no friends, only interests.

Gabbard is literally a Russian agent, though. It's not hyperbole.

The same Russia that's currently trying to invade Ukraine?

Tulsi Gabbard isn't anti-war. She explicitly called herself a hawk on the War on Terror. She's a right-wing opportunist, and like other right wing opportunists (Tucker Carlson, for instance) she might occasionally have a broken clock moment where she criticizes a war, but it's only because she wants to pivot to starting other wars elsewhere.

Tulsi is also a Zionist. She voted for a ban on BDS and called the protests antisemitic. In fact, she said that they were "puppets" of a "radical islamist organization" and, “I’m concerned about it because leaders in the West are not combating it. … Unfortunately, President Biden seems to be afraid to be called an Islamophobe.” This is similar to her criticisms of Obama for being insufficiently hawkish (in her view) on the War on Terror.

Don't fall for right-wing grifters trying to take advantage of anti-war sentiment to push their agenda.

Don't bother with this one, folks. I recognize the name and that should tell you enough.

Move along now.

Move along.

She's not anti-war if she's supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine. She's anti-fighting back.

Haha this guy... Acting like Putin cares when he happily helped Assad bomb his own people all the while invading a Sovereign nation for imperial ambitions hahahah

Lets see what George Orwell wrote about that. Try to read all of it, especially the last paragraph. It isnt about being against pacifism, it's about how pacifism can be used by authoritarian regimes on liberal countries and how that societal asymmetry defines the end result.

Pacifism. Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’.

The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security.

Mr Savage remarks that ‘according to this type of reasoning, a German or Japanese pacifist would be “objectively pro-British”.’ But of course he would be! That is why pacifist activities are not permitted in those countries (in both of them the penalty is, or can be, beheading) while both the Germans and the Japanese do all they can to encourage the spread of pacifism in British and American territories. The Germans even run a spurious ‘freedom’ station which serves out pacifist propaganda indistinguishable from that of the P.P.U. They would stimulate pacifism in Russia as well if they could, but in that case they have tougher babies to deal with.

In so far as it takes effect at all, pacifist propaganda can only be effective against those countries where a certain amount of freedom of speech is still permitted; in other words it is helpful to totalitarianism.

Not all wars are good. I was against the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions. But this war is one of the few occasions where american interests mostly align with the moral thing, helping an invaded country defend against an imperial invader. This is one of the least controversial and relatively clean cut wars in history.

This dude sees rape and yells "stop resisting".

LOL that ratio. It's generally considered a landslide victory to secure 65% or more of the vote. You're hovering around 2.4%. Massacred.

You all thought liberalism meant peace. You were wrong. Liberalism is violence.

Take a good look at the world. Liberalism is violence.

Indeed. Accurate prophecies, yet not believed.

That Republicans were grooming her. She was effectively a DINO when she ran in 2020 (though she did eventually endorse Biden).

A great many things.

If you paid literally any attention to Tulsi Gabbard before she rebelled against the DNC, this new turn would not be so confusing to you. She was an anti-gay activist and pro-drone strike Fox News guest before she had a brief dalliance with the anti-establishment left.

Oh, fuck off, man. It doesn't take a fucking genius, let alone someone as smug as you, to see how much of a piece of shit she's always been.

Why do you post...why are you here

Delete your account and don't come back.

"Independent journalists," but he posts a fuckload of podcasts from far right radical propagandists. I think I prefer fact-based journalism to brainwashing myself, thanks though.

Guys please stop arguing with this disingenuous accelerationist. They clearly give zero fucks about actually making the world better or improving conditions for real people, they're just here to cosplay revolutionary and support the conservative status quo.

Don't engage with them, just block them.

And everyone kept refusing to believe it

And Republicans will have the balls to tell you they were against it from the start which pisses me off more. I mean who invented freedom fries?!

I hear people say the world is flat. Never should have been in Vietnam in the first place.

Gabbard. Holmes is at least trying to do a bit and pretend she's Jobs, even if her technical acumen is equivalent to his personal hygiene (I.e. it fucking stinks). Gabbard is just like that, so that's so much worse.

At least Holmes is kinda hot

What's QAA?

QAA has a two part episode about it and her.

That's where I heard about her. Thanks for providing the name of the group. Turns out the Wikipedia link had already been visited when I looked them up, further confirming this was what I recalled hearing about.

Ahhh, can't have a Lemon party without ol' Dick.

Science of Identity Foundation, as mentioned by another commenter.

Much like Sinema... Or Stein.

So a perfectly moderate and sensible person is a scammy-blowhard?

Did you actually look at a single thing of hers when she ran for president? Not surprised youre on lemmy.world lol lets put it that way. Cant even do research into a good frontend, say bombastic shit and somehow get upvotes from fellow redditors who have come to this community.

"When a rat is promised cheese, it'll follow you anywhere."

-Donald J. Trump

Some people on lemmy say one thing, then there's other people on lemmy that say the complete opposite. How can you ever trust anything you read on here when there's no consistency in what everyone is saying?

Why is it so weird to you that there is more than one opinion present on the internet? You could have seen that and concluded that Lemmy isn't as homogeneous as you thought it was but for some reason you decided to interpret it as a conspiracy to deceive you. Not gonna lie, that seems pretty fucking crazy to me.

What do you mean we aren't aren't all part of the collective hive mind?!?!?! That's why i signed up!

Nope. Sounds like it was for good reason. I tend to ignore flakes.

I think I might do anything that might prevent that from happening to me again.

Donald's track record on conflict is not great. It's obvious they're a regressive cosplaying as a bothsidesing leftist.

It's a strange sort of cynicism. I think the logic is that you know what you're getting with Trump whereas Harris is still an unknown quantity. People like certainty, even if it's certain doom, I guess.

Bernie backed Hillary and Biden, too.

No sane person calls someone they disagree with a fascist. That is TDS. I bet you think if Trump wins, gay people will be put in camps and whatnot. All that other alarmist nonsense about project2025 which didnt happen in his prior term. All this saving grace our VP says she will do if elected... that she could just begin right now lol...

This is also TDS. Buddy, Trump never said (or even cares about) any of that shit.

Could you point me to these encyclopedias? because last I checked the man hasnt been doing half the shit people accuse him of - and he is notoriously taken out of context.

I haven’t been paying enough attention to know if this is a 180 or just a continuance of what they were already doing but you should want politicians whose beliefs can change based on new information

I find it odd that she is using her military pedigree as justification for this because of how anti-American military personnel Trump is but she could have been preaching his policies for awhile now

I dont really see this as a 180 on their views though. Gabbard was a very moderate democrat, and while trump appeals to conservatives - he is in many ways a very progressive republican (his views on crypto, and weed, are extremely anti-republican...)

Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Basically if you're against Trump, you must be completely obsessed with him and therefore deranged. Sane people don't oppose him. Or something like that

TDS is Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's two-pronged. The MAGASUPPORTERS HURR, they have TDS. The people who genuinely seem to think Trump will commit genocide, they also have TDS.

I hear it often only used towards the left, but no - the supporters can be just as bad. Those people who think Trump is some god who will save us from pedophile elite, that's also TDS.

People get their opinons and info from memes.

It isnt even rare to see people who think trump will cause genocide or evict all citizen mexican-americans... that's nonsensical, and common. It is no wonder that Orange Man Bad is so common when people are told he is bad 24/7 without proper proof or context.

They're a far-right radical cosplaying as a leftist for propaganda, of course they will deliberately ignore what Donald did.

And, sadly, that’s still pretty pacifist as far as US presidencies go.

How is the opposite true about Kamala?

Because she isn’t taking measures to de-escalate and avoid wars. Her rhetoric has been nothing but hawkish (on Hamas, Iran, Ukraine, etc.).

And now, just days after her hawkish speech about supporting Israel, we’re now seeing Israel initiate conflict with Lebanon. Good job, Kamala. And she’s not even president yet.

What do you mean?

Because I agreed with something Gabbard said about Harris, you think I no longer oppose Joe Biden?