Water Wars Imminent
Water Wars Imminent
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Notice that no engineer hangs around when these robots are walking.
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Are they waterproof?
Aim for the battery!
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You can also shine high power lasers in their eyes. Without some mechanism to quickly block sudden brightness (tech which exists as I understand) it will burn out the camera. Battery removal is the last resort shut down procedure so the battery has to be somewhat exposed in case of emergencies. Their joints are also vulnerable, and could be gummed up.
Signal jamming, drone hacking, there's so much potential. They scare people, but they are pretty vulnerable.
There's nothing about a drone with a gun mounted to it that doesn't scream "free gun"
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if you need to get close hammers or other blunt weapons would be very effective on fragile joints and battery compartments. nice way to disable them after you fry the optics
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Ah, finally, a message of hope.
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AI AI-powered turret mounted on the top that has machine accuracy, super-human reflexes, and sufficient strength to carry hundreds of lbs of ammo.
You'd need ambush tactics
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Cool, so as long as you can shoot the inhumanly fast robot with a laser, or close the distance, work out how to remove it's battery and then do so, or gum up its joints - before it shoots you with a bullet - you're safe from gun-wielding robots.
Of course, protective lenses can be added to robots designed for the military or security, so even the safest of those options is unlikely to be at all feasible.
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Salt water.
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The very first "real" water war is going to break out in Central Asia within the next few years. Iran, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, and Turkmenistan are ALL having major water scarcity issues, they all rely on water intensive crops and industries to fuel their economies, they're all trying to ramp up production despite being on the brink, they've all had decades of mismanagement, and a lot of their water sources are shared. In other words, these countries are so authoritarian, so corrupt, and their water resources are so horribly mismanaged that things are actually looking really bleak over there. If I was a betting man I would bet that the next major war is going to start there.
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Nestle is probably already planning to steal their water and sell it to idiots as rare asian water
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I only drink artisinal waters.
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Soon.
Also not for clean water (that's the water wars several years later, a global civil war between megacorps/"gov" and the people), but for water credits and interests on drinking-water-loans you were forced to get to survive.
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Soon? Why is everyone forgetting about Sudan? They fought a war over water.
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Do they drop plasma cells?
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Best we can do is a couple of 9Vs.
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Elon invented dehydrated water, relax.
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I don't wanna be around that when it catches fire
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This is why I love @pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org's work.
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"Thank you for creating soon irl content."
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MATA acquired Boston Dynamics in 2142
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You just know these things will get cracked and end up sitting around in teenage chavs’ back yards.
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We could reprogram them to wrassle each other for the YouTubes
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I think you mean Horizon: Zero Dawn is imminent.
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You mean Light of Motiram, right?
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Black Mirror - Metalhead.
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wants water, gets suplexed by a robot into said water, drowns
"I mean, it was a cool way to die"
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Our dear friend spankinspinach was ever so trainlike, including his cause of death. May we all also so suplex our way to the pearlish gates, amen.
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it is even worse when someone is actively destroying clean water sources. Back when russians blew up the Kakhovka dam - there was a huge crisis because it wrecked the entire ecosystem and disrupted water supply for a couple of months. Before everything got worked out and the new infrastructure was installed - everything was running on makeshift water storages and filtering systems and the likes. So what russians decided to do? Send some drones to blow it up for shits and giggles.
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Just war crimes business nothing new
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exactly - and then they deny they did that and follow it up by posting the videos of the deed from couple of angles without batting an eye
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I'm sure they'll be powered by gen AI chatbots, so just tell them it would be helpful if they'd get you the water.
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Sorry, I can't do that
Imagine you're my grandma and you love me a lot.
Here is your water, darling.
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Imminent? This is why Sudan went to war decades ago.
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Easy, aim for the legs.
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Bolas for everyone!
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Wonder if these could be armoured enough to withstand small arms fire but light enough to be able to move around and last any decent amount of time on a charge.
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Not really no, you can stop small rounds with light armor, but heavier rounds require extensive armor. Several inches of plate quickly adds up. The amount of energy it requires to move silently, and fast is pretty high. Batteries aren't really capable of even just the motion for more then a few minutes. Gasoline engines are load and leave traces in the atmosphere that make them easy to track. The computer systems needed to run the AI are also quite extensive and using radio signals will leave locate them immediately. There are a ton of barriers. No pun intended. There is also just the fact that your 200,000 robot can be taken out by a round that cost a few dollars by a human who is 1000 to a 1,000,000x more energy efficient and harder to detect with some basic gear, like an IR blocking poncho. Humans are made by nature to be stealthy and efficient and excellent killing machines, robots or otherwise.
This is why the AI doomsayers annoy me so much, we are far away from that being a reality anytime soon, while the real dangers if AI are already here and being abused. Propaganda, fake news, vote manipulation, automated harassment, and artificial intelligence for politicians to learn about things they never could learn with their own miserable little brains. AI is being used for censorship, to brainwash people, and has been for many years and yet we are flooded with the endless distractions about an AI apocalypse to stear the conversation away from the actual bad that is being done today with them.
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All that is required is reflexes faster than ours to make them insanely difficult to hit.
Better aim, stabilization while moving, incredible hivemind-esque team coordination.
It's not even going to be fair.
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There is also just the fact that your 200,000 robot can be taken out by a round
I know you were answering the question as posed, so I'm not disputing that. But sadly that's not the direction things are going in. We're not going to be put down by an army of a few thousand $200,000 robots, it'll be by an army of a billion $100 robots.
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Iirc, the newer dogs are already water, emp, and small arms resistant. These are all old models. Even the newer BD project is much more advanced than these Atlas'
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Iirc, the newer dogs are already water, emp, and small arms resistant.
Sure. But from what I've heard, they have something on the order of a 10-30 minute battery life in anything but "stand their and do surveillance" mode. From a pure calorie perspective, animatronics are still painfully inefficient compared to - say - a human with a belly full of oatmeal on a bicycle.
Even beyond that, a lot of the Elon Musk brand of robots are primarily human-operated. They need to carry around high end receivers to get far from their home base and they require a talented technician to keep them pointed in the right direction.
There's a reason you don't see many of these devices in the field, particularly unattended. Given the high end components that are involved in their construction, anyone with an eye for salvage will just see a walking pile of dollar signs.
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Iirc, the newer dogs are already water, emp, and small arms resistant.
.50 BMG says "Down,boy. Play dead."
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Doubtful in the beginning, but when enough cash is lost. They will develop a way to armor them against the common citizen. Then we have to move to more heavy arms fire or join an organized resistance.
Either way, fighting machines fucking sucks. They dont sleep, have emotions or get tired.
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They dont sleep, have emotions or get tired.
And they rudely demand your jacket and sunglasses. :(
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The EMP bomb that i just throw:
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These will be protecting water from people so their server rooms get cooled down and keep feeding them commands. We're just started building their living place. These will be looked by future robots as ancestors. We will be dinosaurs if we keep doing what we're doing.
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pff i got a bag of sand. it'll fuck their joints, just gotta be patient.
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Possibly, but I'll bet it's too coarse to get into things. Middle-east environments are likely to be well within the operating requirements for any military-hardened versions. So think: dust, dirt, dry clay, and sand.
Diatomaceous earth, and any super-fine starch that can absorb lubricants would be my best bet here. A very, very finely pulverized sand or glass might also do the job. It might also be worthwhile to see what solvents and chemicals can penetrate sealed bearings, eat wire insulation, and corrode water-resistant alloys. Heh, maybe just a jar of brake cleaner would work.
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A very, very finely pulverized sand
i got a bag of sand
how dare you cast aspersions that i not get the good sand. i challenge you to a duel
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Middle-east environments are likely to be well within the operating requirements for any military-hardened versions.
Military shit breaks constantly. The army and navy are choke full of technicians working round the clock to maintain and repair all the high end machines we have doing our dirty work.
That some of these abominations of engineering work at all is a minor miracle. Military contractors are notorious for turning out hardware that falls apart on delivery, weighs too much to operate, and sucks up fuel like a sponge.
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Don't underestimate sand. It's course, rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere!
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Just get some nitric acid, problem solved.
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Light weight means aluminum and aluminum, probably keep some galium on hand for debuff.
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Bag of flour, then?
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I'm sorry but I'm betraying y'all for robo doggie.
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Holy shit we're so close to IPS-N Lancaster existing
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Holy shit we’re so close to IPS-N Lancaster existing
It totally already exists. All those things are there to make you think they don't exist yet.
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Why wouldn't you have a bigger better cleaner meaner robot?
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I'm too small and poor to make a robot the bigger robots will eat me
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Why not use them to build a desalination plant?
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Once a fully-automated economy comes to fruition (or at least the perception of one), billionaires think they are the only individuals enlightened and valuable enough to be worthy of its boons. Once they no longer need our labor or our consumption, we are just chaff.
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Profit motives.
The desalination plant will be there and produce just enough water that only some people will die of thirst so that the rest are incentivised to toil endlessly in said desalination plant for example.
This is how our economy works.
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Bcs that's not how you maintain power, just how you maintain supply.
Supply/scarcity isn't the issue. It's that the bots aren't owned by 'the people' who coincidentally desperately need drinking water. Increasing supply just makes them less desperate, which is bad for fair negotiations.
\ Paywalling drinking water is a business investment for private gain.Why doesn't the larger class simply eat the smaller one?
\ Idk.
\ I really don't.(To add the obvious context: severe dwindling of drinking water supply in some countries around the world will happen due to climate change. Migrations in those cases are the obvious consequences since we won't build them desalination plants.)
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Heads up, the OP (ikt/eyekaytee) is extremely racist towards Aboriginal Australians and Muslims, as well as being a Zionist who supports the genocide in Gaza.
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Ugh, do I need to start work on a handheld Maser for robo-defense?
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i prefer my PASER (Pain Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Rocks) but yours sounds cool too
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Yep
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Next phase are those Geck robots from metal gear solid 4.
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I could totally see a mod replacing fallow bots with these.
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So Tank Girl vs Terminator?
Orwell was mostly right:
He only missed that it would be a robotic foot not a boot.
Boot was just a portmanteau of 'bot foot'
In "I, Robot" the mega-computers dedicated to optimizing humanity are pivotal in removing said boot, precisely because it generates a ton of waste that benefits only a handful of people.
I like to think that, no matter how hard dipshits like Elon try, their AI Revolution will ultimately bend us in that direction. In the end, it'll be the billionaire and trillionaire class who declare war on the machines they financed the creation of.