White House Flips Out After Chicago Mayor Announces “ICE-Free Zones”

Waiting for the first politician with power of a police department to say this. The police will likely turn on that person. But it needs to be done. States/Cities need to defend their citizens. Or at the very least show how the existing systems have failed and fallen fully to fascism.

The will of citizens comes second to the rights of all people. It wouldn't matter if 90% of the country wanted this. It would still be an unconstitutional infringement of rights.

replaced with a government that serves the will of its citizens.

What are we going to do about the 20 to 40 percent of people who support ICE and other horrors?

edit for clarity: replace "this" with concrete

shows up to that movement with pitchforks

While we're on the subject, how DID pitchforks become the universal symbol of rioting and revolt? As a weapon, I mean it's decent I guess. You could certainly kill someone with it for sure, but it's not some ultimate weapon. A chainsaw certainly has more raw terror inducing imagery. You see someone with a pitchfork in a 1-1 setting, and you could fight them off. You could grab the pitchfork as it's being used against you and have a chance to fight back.

But a chainsaw? How do you fight a guy with a chainsaw??? Or a gun???

I guess what I'm saying is, if we happen to pass a hardware store along our march of revolution, could we pop in for a sec, so I can buy a chainsaw???

they're still black bagging people off of streets in broad daylight, in plain clothes with zero identification, and sending them to whothefuckknows...if your federal setup cant stop that then what the fuck is it for?

The single biggest hurdle we have is how much the media loves Donald Trump. You could have the perfect narrative that convinces 100% of viewers to switch sides and it still wouldn't matter if 3x as many people heard his lies. You'd still lose. The right owns the media at this point and there's basically no way you're reaching half of the goobers Trump is. I'd bet most Americans couldn't even name their reps.

Not suggesting you or anybody else does so, but.... If I were running a counter op, the first thing I'd do was bring down right wing media centers by targeting their transmitters. Splinter their national voice. Next you'd need to hit social media sites, but that's a different tactic where you'd essentially need a bot army to make them unusable by dumping massive amounts of AI slop nonsense (they're halfway there themselves TBH). You'd still have an uphill battle convincing the cult to switch, but at least you'd stand a chance.

Tump is insane. If I were mayor or governor, there is no way in hell I'm risking my own safety for this. If he starts messing with elections, sure because he becomes a persistent threat even for me. Otherwise I'd wait it out

Such naive hope.

I agree mostly with your message, however, a city mayor cannot dictate policy and procedure to any federal entity. They would also likely be opening themselves up to all sorts of liability, i.e. lawsuits for arresting a federal agent. Worst case scenario is CPD getting into a shootout with ICE.

Now unfortunately, before you ask and I'm sure you've been pondering it, I don't have a lot of answers for you in what they should do. It'd basically be career suicide for most of these people in power and while I do agree it's the noble thing to do, it's also not necessarily intelligent to offer yourself up on a platter and most certainly be replaced with a pro Trump puppet once you're removed.

America certainly has itself in a pickle. Good luck

My grandfather fought actual Nazis, sometimes I ask myself what he would think of our political situation today.

I don't know what happened to all the pre Rand Paul libertarians that everybody thought were paranoid talking about government overreach in the 90s?

Federal agents dropping from a fucking helicopter to an apartment building in Chicago, kicking down doors, zip tying crying children, keeping people they just pulled from their homes in cuffs for hours without letting them contact a lawyer, and raiding the entire building like fucking pirates to steal peoples valuables is so fucking far beyond "overreach."

My great-grandfather would lose his shit if someone had told him that feds would be invading states against the wishes of the local governments.

Ah yes, I recall that sentiment very common to the 1860s in certain sub-Mason Dixon line states. Also popular in the 1950s after Brown v Board.

Unfortunately, the times have changed and the Neo-Confederates are the ones running DC now.

We need a EU Edition archive.org. Upload all evidence there. Someday Google search engine will become like Baidu and you can't find any of the massacres anymore.

According to the mayor, while federal agents in violation of the order would not be arrested by Chicago police, the city will take the federal government to court if necessary.

So yeah... nope, they're not going to enforce it.

They can confiscate their stuff.

Notice how they haven't deployed to Texas and Florida. Hmmm, what do they both have in common politically?

Insurance

I agree with the gist of that, but being born and raised in the deep south, I believe the federal government coming in to enforce civil rights was very necessary.

That is not what this is. This is literally the opposite, and its insane that they are seriously trying to make that comparison.

The federal government came in to desegregate public schools. They didn't drop from helicopters on to the roof of private domiciles and send swat teams to kick down doors to arrest anybody opposed to desegregation.

The government is supposed to protect and defend the rights of every American, even if you disagree with them. That's also why "DEI" exists, and I hate to break it to anyone who gets angry hearing "DEI" talk, but if you're not named something like "Welslyian Trottersworth IV," like it or not, you have most likely benefitted from "DEI practices," at some point in your life.

Edit: And for those who might be asking, well what about young Welslyian? Why is he somehow less deserving just for being born into a consequence free life full of untouchable privilege? Welslyian IV is entitled to the same rights as anyone else, but exactly who TF do you think you need protection from? Who is it that you believe made society exclusionary in the first place?

If your ancestors were among the unfortunate souls who had to leap to their deaths from a burning building because Welslyian the first had locked the factory door to keep workers from taking unnecessary breaks on the clock; or those who went down into the coal mine one day only to be buried alive and abandoned because Welslyian the first knew he could save money by just closing off the caved in mines and starting over with new workers, maybe, just maybe, you should be asking yourself why you're so concerned about Welslyian IV not reaping the benefits of "DEI practices?"

Do you think Welslyians I-IV have ever given a shit about you or your well being? Or have they always just exploited you for their own personal gain? If you know the answer to that, then why do you think they need you to be so concerned on their behalf now, and why do you keep falling for it?

It is absolutely wild to the rest of the western world that ICE agents under Trump are allowed to conduct their job masked all the time.

Literal secret police in failed state shit.

If Minnesota, Michigan, and the greater Great Lakes area wanted to join Canada I would be open to it.

Then we could all focus on work and manufacturing and quality of life.

Also would welcome the states of Alaska and Washington.

That's definitely their goal, and I'd prefer to keep my country united.

We were never perfect, and there were definitely many ways we started off (and still often end up) on the wrong foot in terms of hypocrisy vs the country we claimed we were building, but the U.S. is my home, my family, and I love her. I know I'll probably end up burned at the stake for saying this, but I do sincerely believe that our differences make us great.

They're the ones that have problems with everyone else, and want to turn us from a big salad to a bottle of homogenous curdled milk. I wish this administration and whoever wants to serve join them would go build their monarchy on one of Peter Thiel's man made floating islands instead of trying to force it on us. See how that social darwinism and boot strapping they're so obsessed with actually plays out for them. (FAFO)

Per the article: “According to the mayor, while federal agents in violation of the order would not be arrested by Chicago police, the city will take the federal government to court if necessary.”

I'm surprised there isn't more "And then someone followed the ICE agents home and shot them dead in their driveway" happening yet.

Be funny if that did happen, and the jury refused to indict. I think our faith in institutions are so low that that's plausible, now.

You have it wrong, it's actually ICE, a common acronym for "Internal Combustion Engine". Chicago is trying to create more walkable spaces.