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Welp

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Most disappointing line in the sand ever.
Ten years ago was the time to flip out about fascism. I can't believe some people are still telling us "wait for it...!"
- ¯(ツ)/¯ the best time to flip out about fascism is ten years ago. Second best time is today.
  
  This is what we need to hear. Not condescension for inaction, but a call to continuously move forward with protest, unification, and unwaveringly loud "fuck you"s to the administration that's trying to kill us.
- Tweet was from last year. It's saying "it's time"
  
  Oh! Hah, I completely overlooked the timestamp. I never did twitter or bsky, micro blogging feels as opaque and pointless to me as Discord does to ...well, most people.
- We deserved better. We deserved bernie. I blame hillary clintons ambition and the dnc at the time for trying to force her through. Bernie would have beaten trump the first time.
  
  If you're trying to split the difference between finding a specific contemporary individual to blame versus blaming an inherently flawed democracy that contains the seeds of its own destruction, you could do worse than the DNC top brass of the last decade.
  
  Government full of actual Nazis. Clearance Thomas fireselling Supreme Court decisions. Blame Hillary Clinton.
- Did you flip out yet? What, exactly, did you do?
  
  Very incisive question, thanks for asking. I left the country.
- Tbf Trump is pretty weak so far compared to historical fascists
  
  Not weak, just early. Hitler didn't start with the Holocaust or even the Enabling act; he had a Reichstag majority starting July 1932. MAGA will follow in the Nazis' footsteps; they'll just take a little longer to do it.

another "let's set some arbitrary line down the road to avoid doing anything today"
you already live under a fascist regime you cowards... DO SOMTHING! take action NOW
- You decide to take action. Please roll for initiative.
  rolls 1
  You slip and fall on banana peel. You ran out of action points.
  
  What a strange mix of RPG tropes. I get what you meant but that's like when you see "hacking" on tv.
  
  Do you crit-fail your players on initiative roles? Brutal 😮
- And what action would you like to take?
  
  Long lasting general strikes and boycots would be an effective tool. I realize they would be painful, or even impossible, for people to support themselves through in many cases, whuch is why things like mutual aid and strike funds need to be set up first.
  
  A couple of days ago someone brought the right tools to the debate😉
  
  Protests, Marches, call for General Strike, Civil Disobedience, etc etc etc
  Trumptard may not care about your opinion but he would have to care if the country stops working...
  And yes, I know it's hard... but this is what you get after decades of apathy and "fuck you, got mine"... you don't like it? you are certainly going to hate living the rest of your life under fascism
  
  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-key-issues-that-drove-gen-z-protests-that-toppled-nepals-government
  
  Use the guns for what they were meant for
  
  I want the rest of the world to commit to a defensive pact against the USA. "If either of us is attacked by the USA, we will both go to war with them". I want a pan-continental alliance. Let's get Europe, China, Russia, South America, Oceania, and the Middle East in this. Mexico and Canada can join too. And I'm not saying I agree with Hamas, but they do have a lot of experience against American military hardware, and the enemy of the USA is my friend.
- Ehh naw we just need to let it reset. The house of cards will crumble as soon as Trump croaks, then once ceaser is gone Rome will burn. Hopefully what comes after is better, but it probably won't.
  Personally, my family came to this foreign land, that's not ours, to seek out a better economic life and freedom. 2024 was the first election that the youngest voting generation went more conservative in the last 100 years. The beliefs of this nation no longer align with my own, so I'm returning back to Europe where my family once came in search of those very values. I realize a lot isn't great there either, but I have more trust in the EU protecting my fundamental rights than I do the US Constitution.
  Failing that, at least Europe has better wine and I'll just enjoy the view while the world ends.
  
  ^ this is the epitome of the "fuck you, got mine" mentality... you seem to think you have an out so every body else can go fuck themselves... you are not even going to try to spare most of the worst of it, you are happy to let everyone suffer because you think you have an out
  Good luck EU if this is what they are getting from the USA
  
  If you think europe is better you really haven't been paying attention. This is a worldwide concerted effort.
  
  Great Man Theory is bunk.
- People cant do anything. What actions will change things?
  You can demonstrate until you die of old age and nothing has been accomplished.
  I think the only actual change people can do is try and collect money to live somewhere else. I dont believe in talking and convincing people. I believe in direct action in your own life.
  
  People cant do anything. What actions will change things?
  Well Charlie Kirk has been awfully quiet and not bussing around insurrectionists to the Capitol recently. Wonder what happened there?
  
  I believe in direct action in your own life.
  No wonder why the "fuck you, got mine" attitude got you here.
  PS: there isn't really anywhere in the world that is craving to take Muricans right now... specially not ones that are not rich enough to already have an out (this sucks but money talks)...
  
  The country relies on cars for everything. If you block some roads, you can halt the whole economy.

Dude, your "canary" is decomposing at the bottom of a gas-flooded mine. That ship sailed months ago.
- The mine:
  
  Not even miners are safe under Trump
- The tweet was from last year.
  So they're doing pretty good, all things considered.
  The canary is very dead.
  
  Oh snap I hadn't noticed the date. Yikes.
  
  This needs to be mentioned in the OP. I didnt notice the date either.
- Right? We've had a flock of canaries go in and never come out. Let's be frank it's been a long time coming:
  Kimmel
  Noem v Vasquez Perdomo
  DC
  Colbert
  PBS
  NPR
  Roe
  Affirmative action
  Net neutrality
  Citizens United
  The Patriot Act
  At some point we gotta stop thinking they will ever come out.

The "he was fired for talking about Charlie Kirk" narrative is a lie.
He was talking mostly about the Epstein Files.
2 days ago
\ 1 day ago
- He was fired because that was the plan when Colbert was fired. They literally said he was next.
  
  Okay but why in that way - during the taping of a show? That doesn't seem very "planned". That seems like a desperate rush.
  Over the weekend would have been smoother. Hell, just about any other way would have been smoother.
  They gave Colbert another year.

Canary? The tunnels are collapsing
- Bloomberg Opinion Section: "Total Tunnel Collapse Could be a Sign of Tunnel Instability"
  
  "Why repairing the tunnels would be devastating for the prosthetics industries around the mines."
  
  "Three New Tricks For Identifying If Your House Has Collapsed"

The US has always been fascist, since Manifest Destiny up to and after WWII. Fascism is just now turning inward towards the people who never thought they'd see this end of the stick.
Still, despite all the hatred and forces pushing us apart and pinning us down, this is our opportunity to restructure the country and make reparations to those we've wronged.
Have radical optimism in the face of radical hatred.
- I really appreciate this remark but I think it kind of leaves something out, among the hopeful message.
  I think America is actually experiencing the greatest theft of wealth, being transferred AWAY from the middle- and lower- classes, TO the ruling Elite.
  I see people dancing up and down on leopards ate my face, just as one random example... But the short-term mockery misses the long-term pain under which we will all suffer.
  There are farmers who love Trump who are going to lose their farms, when they are purchased by large conglomerates, after their overseas markets were intentionally destroyed with tariffs. The last thing this world needs is more Monsanto-esque food control.
  There are huge swaths of US tourist properties that are going up for fire sale in the next couple years. All of that land is going to be stolen because no one can/will visit. Although tourism is a huge industry, it's still highly competitive and the margins are razor thin. Most tourist destinations will not be able to weather the storm.
  Manufacturing, agriculture, travel... like.... I could just make a list of so many lives that businesses that are going to be destroyed. And there's fatcats just waiting to strike and steal what they have built, for pennies on the dollar.
  America is in a massive crisis right now. People are so busy focusing on mockery and schadenfreude and identity politics, there's not a lot of talk about what's actually going on in the bigger picture!
  All of America's wealth is being stolen. Every citizen is having their generational wealth swindled from under them. Even if there's not a direct loss one could point to, massive inflation has horrendously deflated a century of citizens' wealth building. Families have been set back generations, even if the course is reversed. Reproductive rights are almost gone. Bump more children out with less ability to feed them, more slaves.
  It's such a dire situation and people aren't grasping the scope of it. It freaks me the hell out.
  
  There have been other times in the USA's history where rich robber barons have held the majority of power.
  Thankfully, class consciousness (and political integrity) had emerged enough during those times for the working class to claw back freedoms they lost to the capitalists. Look at May Day for how we earned a 40 hour work week and weekends.
  I do agree with you though. There is more wealth disparity today than any other time in human history. The working class response to this betrayal by the rich must reflect this in kind, and achieve unprecedented levels of equity and equality compared to any other time in human history.
  That may sound ideal, but it's necessary. Suffering across the world may have decreased in the past 40-50 years, but the benefits of technology and the 21st century have not trickled down to the workers. Stuff should be cheaper because we've displaced our labor with robotics and freed our time and energy with better tools (e.g. assembly lines). It is a crime that things have only gotten more expensive as time has passed.
  Power over the masses is of course the culprit. Capitalist power ensures the majority are enslaved to their 9-5s, their student loan debt, and even the ever prescient force to abolish ownership of stuff in favor of rent. There's a reason why socialism is becoming a popular ideology in Democratic and Left-leaning populations: capitalism isn't apart of it.
  
  What you're describing here is the process that will drive the change parent speaks of. The dispossesion you're pointing out is what will make people come together against the dispossessors.
- Top take.
- Right. I briefly didn't feel the stick for a month in 2015 but other than that the last time was last millennium.
  
  Shame on the DNC

They have literally taken charlie kirks death and used it as a means to attack left leaning people from all walks of life.
This is a full blown government takeover of the American media
They're forcing left leaning people out of their jobs in almost every industry.
And what makes this even worse is that it is so blatantly obvious that the info surrounding kirks shooter is almost a complete invention of the trump administration. The ridiculous bullets. The note that magically disappeared. The text messages that sound as if they were written by a 55 year old....
This country is so good and truly fucked. It just so depressing and sad. And even more depressing because it seems like no one is really even trying to fight back.
- It's almost like you have to fight for your rights. The pacifist party is never going to do that, so wave goodbye..

i've noticed something not so funny about when facism gets called out in the mainstream; out loudly enough to be heard. Seemingly, its usually only when it starts to inconvenience cishet ablebodied white people.
- Until then it’s just sparkling authoritarianism.
- something something first they came for the communists

my retirement plan was dying in the water wars already, I guess the timetable has been moved forward
- Water wars tend to be dry, welcome to the water wars.

Pretty wild how when Jimmy Kimmel left the Man Show, he was replaced by rogan.
- i forgot all about that show. never watched it. but i remember it existing.
- Yeah this is a point I'd long forgotten. Ziggy ...etc

There is only one thing we can do.
Make it about Epstein 24/7. Write his name on the walls and shout it in the streets.
- No. That's what Trump wants. Talk about the terrible things he is doing right now
  
  Most of his supporters are okay with the things he's doing.
  Epstein is what sickens them
  
  To be fair, even fucking Margorine Tator Tot Green is pissed about him hiding the Epstein files. I think you underestimate how badly core MAGA want it released. It really could be the thing that takes all this down.

And when that canary croaks, it'll be another. And another and another, so long as we don't have to get up off our asses and stamp out these evil fuckers and undo their shit
- It's not that easy though. We are at the conclusion of a decades long campaign to poison not just our government and politics, but our society as well. Take out every fascist tonight, and we still have to contend with the fact that, as a people, we are no longer capable of operating a democracy. Healing the divides and fixing generations of indoctrination takes time we don't have.
  I'm not saying there is no hope, but we have to sober about the tasks ahead of us if this country is ever going to heal.

New Disney Plans announced Make Disney Great Again
- Please stop spamming this in every thread without providing a proper source.
  
  The Jimmy Kimmel show is cancelled. Multiple sources like cnn and pbs talked about it. There are multiple results at the top of google that are generally credible too...

Wonder if he is considering running for office now?
- That would be interesting for sure

Here's hoping him and Zohran Mamdani remain safe!

inb4 those fired show hosts start their YouTube channels and air their shows there. A Lithuanian journalist has been doing it for 10 years now and so can they.
- Google can just as easily be squeezed and threatened by Trump to take-down any youtubers they don't like
- Someone else made a good point about that on a different thread; they brought up the fact that youtube revenue wouldn't be able to support his staff and writers.
  Maybe he could do a show on YouTube, but it would have to be very different and it would still leave a lot of folks jobless.

wasn't there news he got his italian passport for this exact reason ?

Happens to him? He’s already been removed. His removal is just another fascist step forward. Nothing will happen to him after this. It’s the next step you need to be concerned with, and the next, and the next… eventually we’ll get to someone being executed, normal citizens being disappeared for opposing The Party in some way, full internet censorship, full control of State Media, any democrat politicians are removed, opposing republican opposition is instantly jailed without trial… a lot of steps yet to come. Guess they could skip to the end, but I don’t think we’re there yet.
- Check the date
  
  Oh. Shit.

Hey, a lot of "respectable" people are fascists - and pedophiles.

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