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What does Antifa even mean?

Transcription: I Just Found Out that My Child's History Teacher is Forcing Them to Learn About Antifa Leaders. What is this Country Coming to?

Wikipedia page on Anti-fascism, listing Winston Churchill, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Charles de Gaulle as Counterrevolutionary Anti-fascism examples

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

PS: Don't worry, today (9/17/2025) is the day that the house committee deliberates on Macro Rubio's ability to use the people's freedom of speech as evidence of terrorist organisation aid.

H.R. 5300, SEC. 226. NO PASSPORTS FOR TERRORISTS AND TRAFFICKERS

So it's just a matter of time before all the Antifas are sent to concentration camps.

PPS: Sorry everyone, looks like this post got too many upvotes and influenced American politics.

Trump says he’s designating Antifa as a terrorist organization

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Im so confused. Are real people out there openly in favor of “fascism”?
- Some people are openly fascist, yes. Thanks to the stupid fucking Jubbilee VS videos, I now know the depths of human stupidity are more boundless than I imagined.
  However, I think this person just can't connect the dots that being anti-anti-fascism is just being pro-fascism. They don't actually think about the words they use, their meaning or their context. They just know that "antifa" is a left wing group, and left-wing, of course, bad, obviously. And since "antifa" stands for "anti-fascism", anyone that are "anti-fascists", including historical figures who lived and fought fascism well before the Antifa group existed, are the same as this modern group, and therefore left-wing, which, again, bad. They don't then take the next step in logic to, "if the anti-fascists were bad for opposing fascism, then fascism must be good. Praise Mussolini." Again, some do get there, but most are just thoughtless dum-dums.
  It reminds me of when you ask people "If you are driving 80 miles PER HOUR, how long will it take for you to drive 80 miles?" And then they start guessing random shit or trying to logic it out or do math instead of just understand what the hell is being said. Weird mental gymnastics ensue that just demonstrate their complete lack of understanding.
- What are you confused about? The current US administration is very openly fascist.
  
  Yes, but they don't call it that. Nazis and fascism are "bad," regardless of how perfectly they embody their ideology.
- Nearly half of America seems to be although I'd argue they're too stupid to even realize it.
  
  They are like "nuh uh. You're the facist." When you read them the definition of the word they say google changed it.
  
  More charitably we can say half the population trusts their tribal influencers to know what they are doing.
  Before you go condemning them all, the tribal influencers telling people The Establishment Democrats know what they are doing or also misleading people. And people still do not seem to realize it.
  Everyone trusts the wrong people.
- There are real people out there that have no idea what fascism is. They think it's a movement that will ensure they have a stable job and that will just gently ensure that people with colored skin stay out.
  They'd be fairly innocent if it wasn't for the rampant racism
  
  https://i.imgflip.com/a6ej6y.jpg
- yes or they cant put together antifa is short for anti facist
  edit: spelling
  
  tbf you can't put too much trust in a name either. the nazis weren't exactly socialist, despite calling themselves "national socialists".
  i think the problem arises because people think that antifa is a single entity (hence e.g. antifa member) like the nazis, rather than antifa being closer to a political descriptor like "leftist" or "anti-capitalist"
- Yes.
- I don't know all these elitist words, but I heard that Antifa is a well organized Communist terrorist organisation!

There is a great song by the German punk band „Team Scheiße“, „FA“, with the refrain „Bist du anti Antifa, bist du Fa“ which translates to „If you’re anti Antifa, you’re fa[shist]. A bit simplistic but true.
- Wouldn't expect anything more poetic from "Team Shit."

Just another word going through the right wing meaning-mangling-machine.
- People need to stop letting rightards redefine words. Whenever I hear someone railing about antifa I show them this picture and ask which side are they on. I'm not some edgelord in a trenchcoat with a fedora either. It actually makes them stammer and back out of that position in a fucking hurry.
  
  Hey the image isn’t loading for me for lemmy related reasons, what’s the picture of?

my outlook is that antifa is active antihate. to be anti antifa is to be pro hate, pro fascist, pro genocide

You joke but we are looking at a whole rewrite of History, multiple times over depending on State. States like Tennessee already made it illegal to teach any history that makes someone feel uncomfortable. That was years back.
It will be an easy transition because they don't really teach history anyway. Back in the seventies that used to teach history, by the '80s and '90s they did not in any real way and had a very cursory and manipulated history they taught.
- I joke so I can make people feel an emotional connection to what is actually happening around them as they acknowledge the cognitive dissonance and reality.
  Um...I mean...terrorists identified by Marco Rubio don't deserve passports
- the narrative that Nazi Germany was socialist is already gaining traction in many places, it will be taught in school in short order if it's not already.
  See, the place where leftists are deluding themselves is they think just because you can't repress all knowledge in all places, that somehow the "Truth will overcome" and that people will still learn how things went.
  It doesn't matter. It doesn't take everyone believing a lie, it just takes a fraction of outspoken assholes to lead a nation down a new direction. They have the monopoly on outspoken assholes unfortunately, so I don't see any real opposition happening unless every fucking social-recluse on Lemmy and Reddit and discord suddenly decide that their country is more important than their comfort and special needs.

There's a thread on /r/ conservative right now. It's fucking amazing. They are out of their goddamn Minds. They're all celebrating that finally Donald Trump is brave enough to Outlaw this obvious terrorist organization that's responsible for billions of dollars in property damage. That's right billions of dollars. They think antifa is caused billions of dollars of property damage. They're out of their goddamn Minds.
- Yes they are, and they're winning and they're going to burn our country to the ground while celebrating in the streets.
- Keep in mind I can run an LLM that can churn out the low effort comments that sub is known for on 2 year old gaming hardware.
  It's one of the problems with social media now (including this one)

Do liberals actually consider Churchill Antifa?
- By the strictest definition, I guess I can see it. He opposed Hitler, the most visible fascist of the 20th century, so he's an anti-fascist.
  
  Yeah but it wasn't out of virtue. He didn't oppose German fascism because it was an immoral and ruthless ideology. He opposed it because it was a threat to Britain's power and influence. He was famously antisemitic and capitulated to the reich until the moment it became impossible to do so.
  
  He could've been ProFa and joined Hitler, so I'm also grateful for that.
  
  Yeah but by that definition Hitler was a socialist!
- I don't know what Antifa even means but my mom says it's communist so I hate it!
  
  That is not far from the truth
- Anyone who thinks a state leader of one of the most destructive empires in modern human history is not fascist...
  This is the same empire that tried to destroy evidence of global wrongdoing in what they called Operation Legacy.
  Ultimately, the Germans were just a bit fascist-er.
  
  You mean the empire that brought us Gaza and Kashmir? Fascist? Naaah
- At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Liberals considered Biden to be antifa
  
  Man a lot of them probably fucking do is the sad thing.

It literally is just a shortened form of anti-fascist.
- My mother said that Antifa was a well organized terrorist organisation, and she is always right!
  PS: My momma is always right.
  Trump says he’s designating Antifa as a terrorist organization
  https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/politics/antifa-terrorist-designation-trump

It's shorter than saying you're exclusively pro-do, pro-re, pro-me, pro-so, pro-la, and pro-ti.

Oh brother, 1984's doublespeak

Don't worry, today (9/17/2025) is the day that the house committee deliberates on Macro Rubio's ability to use the people's freedom of speech as evidence of terrorist organisation aid.
H.R. 5300, SEC. 226. NO PASSPORTS FOR TERRORISTS AND TRAFFICKERS
So it's just a matter of time before all the Antifas are sent to concentration camps.
- DOA in the Senate, if it even gets that far.
  
  Denial is the first stage
  
  Sorry liberal, Republicans have 53 seats in the Senate.
  We are going to own the libs and Antifa by making them our slave labor source.

If you think that antifascists are your enemy I have news for you.
- I don't what to hear it! I don't read the news! My mom is always right, I get all my news from her!

Those darn antifa generals like Eisenhower, Patton and Bradley, and who could forget those antifa classics, Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers

I'm designating Love of Bell Peppers as a terrorist organization
- It makes no sense! Peppers are supposed to be spicy, not sweet! I've never trusted a bell pepper in my life! My mom says they are Italian!

Where is this groups website? Can I register to get their newsletter?

Krasnov wants his Auntie Flo deported but he's been slurring his words as his latest shipment of SpaceX Cocaine was delayed.
as a side note:

It means that they can now have posts like this: https://old.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1nk8xm0/antifa_is_recognized_as_a_terrorist_group_in_the/
If your comment is called out as antifa, doesn't matter if you have anything to do with supporting anti-fascists or not, it will add to a report count, one that can be made to be a very big number and has a pseudo legal premise Trump federal agencies WILL go after and which MAGA's Supreme Court WILL back up. It is a Gleichschaltung moment.
- We need to report everyone's grand parents that faught against fascists in world war 2!
  
  Appears to be the way

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