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Calling BS. Pics Or It Didn't Happen

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Breaking News: the entire text of The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood was found to be engraved on bullet casings left at the scene, according to a source. So we should ban that book from all schools, fr fr.
- Alberta did that last month.

Transgender ideology? Did they write UWU on the bullet?
- Linux kernel source code was engraved in the bullet
  
  "I run Arch btw"
- a bullet but with cat ears and a choker
- How big was the bullet??
  
  I think it was a .308
- They literally did apparently
- No it was “Notices bulges OWO what’s this?”. Other messages were: “Hey fascist! Catch!” Up arrow symbol, right arrow, three down arrow symbols (Helldivers 2 code for Eagle 500kg Bomb) and “If you read this, you are gay lmao” and “Oh bella ciao bella ciao bella ciao ciao ciao”.

Yeah what the fuck. Just like Luigi's alleged engravings. It doesnt make any sense beyond an emotional response. Why take the time to engrave something no one will see? Its going faster than the speed of sound.
- Typically you would engrave the casing. That goes nowhere near the target.
  So yeah.
  
  Then to the same degree, why engrave the evidence to make it easier to track? It still doesnt make sense.
  
  Kurt Cobain wants to know how to add a community comment
  
  The casing that the shooter took with them?
  Why leave rifle full of them & not leave the one you fired?
  This was a CIA or Mossad hit & the shooter isn't even in the USA at this point.
- Satanic Panic is back

"transgender ideology" is not a thing. That's the type of shit transphobes pull out of their ass when they're trying to attack trans folks
- I think transgender ideology is "we're human".
  It's fucking wild that the Right can be opposed to human rights and anti-fascism and millions of people are somehow still gaslit in believing they're the good guys.
  
  It's this exact point for me. "Antifascist" is being taken at face value and simultaneously being tarred as antisocial rhetoric. What the actual fuck has gone on? If the belief that "antifascist" is a cover or a dogwhistle, then shouldn't you attempt to separate their political orientation away from those words? "They aren't antifascist. They are political dissidents claiming all of their political enemies are 'fascists'."
  Instead, we have: "No, they ARE antifascists and they are our enemies!" Why did we let them stigmatize the word "antifascist"?
- I can see something engraved like "uwu" be interpreted that way by MSM.
  EDIT: CALLED IT! "Notices bulges OwO"
  
  ...I kinda hope that's exactly what was engraved.
  
  Imagine dying to a bullet with uwu on it
  
  I always thought uwu was more of a furry thing, right?
  Imagine knowing your nazi hero was shot by a fucking furry lmao

In related news, doctors were amazed they kept pulling books and scrolls from the body, placed there by the bullets.
“It’s amazing” said the orange as quoted by the wsj, “apparently books like this can kill. I’m sure he could have survived the wound without the additional poisoning.”
In response to this, reaction forces were posed to raid the libraries of all elementary schools within the washington dc area

seems like this wasnt even an accurate report
https://bsky.app/profile/thelincoln.bsky.social/post/3lyl5ljm2h22m
- My shocked Pikachu face is shocked at this shocking shock.
- but WSJ ran with it.
  
  Can you believe, once upon a tine long long ago The Wall Street Journal actually had integrity in journalism.
  Now it's a billionaire's plaything.
- Early Bulletin Said Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology; Some Sources Urge Caution
  https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b
  It sounds like a bulletin was indeed circulated, and it sounds like the WSJ is being pretty candid about the law enforcement response:
  Law-Enforcement Officials Sow Confusion on Manhunt for Kirk Shooter / Contradictory public statements risk undermining confidence in investigation, law enforcement veterans say
  https://www.wsj.com/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooting-manhunt-e7f3eae4
  The WSJ is not going to have first hand access to the evidence, so they have to report (transparently!) what they're told by credible sources. In this case, it sounds like law enforcement --- supposed to be credible --- is not. It's a pretty tricky thing to report on.
- Wall Street Murdoch not wrong! Clicks go up!

Not seeing other outlets report this. So yeah I'm skeptical.
- The trashier ones reported on it, but then they're not on the front page anymore.
- Early Bulletin Said Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology; Some Sources Urge Caution
  https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b
  It sounds like a bulletin was indeed circulated, and it sounds like the WSJ is being pretty candid about the law enforcement response:
  Law-Enforcement Officials Sow Confusion on Manhunt for Kirk Shooter / Contradictory public statements risk undermining confidence in investigation, law enforcement veterans say
  https://www.wsj.com/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooting-manhunt-e7f3eae4
  
  So basically the federal agencies cannot be trusted here and have clearly shown their political partisanship and they got what they wanted in circulating their official false narrative to provoke political violence on the right against the lbgtq community and whatever the fuck they call the left.
  Because that's literally what they did, every right wing advocate for political violence has been clamoring about this non fucking stop and the government here has no shame about it.
  2A up people, it's going to get bad.

transgender and antifascist ideology
transgender ... ideology
[Squidward voice, but angrier] NO, PATRICK, TRANSGENDER IS NOT AN IDEOLOGY... PREGNANT IS NOT AN IDEOLOGY EITHER.

lol bet they also found The Communist Manifesto engraved on a nano scale on the bullet casing.
- They found a etching on a wall of Hillary Clinton naked that the shooter did while waiting as well ... it was Banksy quality.
  
  The bullet came from her emails!!
- Like how the IDF keeps finding "Mein Kampf" strewn across Gaza.
- raped beheaded babies baked in ovens inside the bullets.

Already proven a hoax
- Clowns all of them.
  Apparently the bullets did have some engravings, but they said benign shit like "Here fascist, catch!" and "If you read this, you are gay LMAO", but nothing antifa or trans related
- What's the Source: ?
  I wanna share it with others who still believe it's true
  
  On September 11, 2025, The Wall Street Journal issued a caution regarding its earlier report on an internal law-enforcement bulletin concerning the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. The bulletin had mentioned ammunition found near the scene with “transgender and anti-fascist ideology” engravings, but the Justice Department indicated the report might not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition as the probe was in its early stages.
  This is statement from the WSJ
  
  Probably the person making the more believable claim.

The backpedaling on the WSJ's lie has begun:
On September 11, 2025, The Wall Street Journal issued a caution regarding its earlier report on an internal law-enforcement bulletin concerning the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. The bulletin had mentioned ammunition found near the scene with "transgender and anti-fascist ideology" engravings, but the Justice Department indicated the report might not accurately reflect the messages on the ammunition as the probe was in its early stages.
- might not accurately reflect
  I love newspeak
  
  "our report was somewhat truth-adjacent"

Engraved on ammunition. We're at biblical levels of made up bullshit.
- But it's good to know that it also ends biblically

I hope a trans person did shoot him and I hope they get away with it. Kirk made his living by terrorizing and dehumanizing queer folks and I’m happy he finally got to the FO stage. Hopefully seeing daddy get blown away will ensure his kid doesn’t grow up to be as bigoted and the lesson is learned.
- I don't. I hope it was a MAGA nutjob or similar so the administration doesn't get a good boogeyman
  
  Yeah last thing the trans community needs is a tangible reason for the admin to target them.
- Oh Gods I hope this isn't the case. The right would start foaming at the mouth and could start rounding us up as threats.
  It's also... a little ghoulish to speak about a kid losing their parent that way. Whatever you think of the man his kid's grief isn't exactly something to celebrate. I get not mourning the man but celebrating his death isn't going to help us trans folks in the end. I have a feeling that this is going to get a whole lot worse for all of us as a people very quickly and as a whole we're already a group hanging on by our fingertips.
  
  Yeah if a trans person shot him best case is just a pogrom

Well, we got images of the primary suspect today, so I'm guessing we'll get more pics soon.
Here's what I think we know so far:
they did recover the gun - reports are saying it's a bolt action rifle, and this article claims to have a shot at the gun, which tracks with this article where a sniper guessed the caliber from the gunshot sound (allegedly a .30-06, which has a similar muzzle velocity and size as the .308 the sniper guessed)
the bullets were not engraved, though potentially marked w/ permanent marker or something - engraving takes a lot of work, and I doubt someone skilled w/ a firearm would bother
the primary suspect is the right person - they arrested/detained two others, and quickly let them go
they have some biometrics - I watched a report where they recovered palm, forarm, and shoe prints, no fingerprints as of yet
I'm guessing the perp isn't a student there, otherwise they would've been able to get a name from school records.
I guess we'll see how close I am, but in the meantime, I hope these sources are of interest to others.
Edit: Looks like they got the guy (Tyler Robinson), and I was pretty close. Some details:
attended Utah State (not where the shooting happened) for one semester, then dropped out and attended Dixie Tech in St. George (about 4 hours south)
bullets were allegedly engraved and the text is available, though no pictures AFAICT
apparently he was conservative, at least a few years prior, though not a fan of Trump or Kirk
turned himself in when his parents confronted him
We'll probably learn a ton of additional irrelevant details soon. He doesn't seem like a crazy person, just likely radicalized by the internet.
- Guesswork on the caliber based on 'sound' is entirely unuseful- silencers exist and acoustics are mysterious at the best times. Edit: since they apparently found the rifle, the chambering should be listed- guesswork is now totally obsolete.
  And concerning engraving bullets: that would supremely fuck with the ballistics. You could engrave the case if you felt so inclined, I guess...
  
  Nobody carves bullets, but most people would consider the casing part of the bullet. Journalists are often imprecise, especially with things they're not familiar with.

Trans-antifascists is something I can support

Homie wrote an entire manifesto on a 30-06 shell
- It's actually the epstein files, that's why they didn't publish what the casings said

Ideology: fascism is bad, transgender people should have equal rights.
Not ideology: let's kill everybody that doesn't conform to our narrow minded idea of society.

Wait when did they find the weapon?? Last I heard they didn't have the weapon and the 2 people they arrested were the wrong guy. So it sounds like the shooter didn't leave the gun behind, so I would expect them to only get the weapon if they got the shooter unless I missed something between yesterday and today.
Edit: Found the update that I missed from the FBI this morning, they apparently found the weapon in a "wooded area", so shooter still unknown
- Recent reports indicate a bolt action rifle was found wrapped in a towel in the woods, one empty casing in the chamber, three more live rounds in the mag.
  
  Sounds like Kash Patel watched JFK last night. Was the pristine bullet from a Mannlicher-Carcano?
  
  Utah has woods?!?

I would love to hear what they mean by “transgender ideology” lmfao
- that usually means acknowledging that trans people exist and are the gender they say they are
  scary stuff /s
  
  that's some impressive engraving skills
- I'm not kidding, apparently one of the bullets read "if you can read this, you are gay lmfao"

Also fishy that Trump announced his death and made an AI video of himself. How long does it take to create an AI video like that?
- It's just interpolation, so probably all of 5 minutes. There's enough misinformation going around, let's not keep spreading the AI video nonsense.
  
  Did you not watch it? It's definitely AI.
- Are we seriously going to prop up this asinine AI video conspiracy slop?
  Don't we have enough factual examples of this administration's malfeasance to be alarmed and angry about it?

“antifacsist ideology”?
So, what…an American Flag? Right? Right…?
- Yeah, what is antifascist ideology? Like, equal rights, being nice,... That kind of stuff?
  And transgender ideology? What is that? To be nice to transgender people?
  
  And transgender ideology? What is that? To be nice to transgender people?
  If I were to frame it in terms of an ideology - that we should be allowed to pursue happiness and comfort aided by the backing of scientific evidence to ensure we are safe. That our lives not be rendered into terms where reproductive function or lack thereof dictates how we must live our lives.
  And that while we do not demand full metaphysical submission of belief of other people that we are our gender it should be acknowledged that our social engineering mechanisms are a kindness that allow us greater room to psychologicaly function. These absences of accommodation in professional situations or public design causes either our livelihoods or accessibility to spaces or facets of society to become hardships above and beyond the average citizen.
  I personally do not care if someone is "nice" to me or not. I care about being able to leave their vacinity if they are being an ass and that my safety and job security isn't effected by me being trans.
  
  My guess is "FU Nazi!" A colleague guessed the peace symbol ☮
  
  How very radical.

Probably didn't even find the rifle responsible. More reason to believe it was a setup.

Lol first thing someone does when they go to assassinate someone is to engrave the rifle they hope no one ever finds...
- Yeah wasn't this shit also pulled with Luigi?
  
  he was caught days later with an entire manifesto and also evidence placing him at the scene in his backpack, how convenient! :)
- No, he wlleft the rifle on purpose. Easier to just throw away especially if the killer unknown to police. Back in the day mobsters would just leave the gun after a hit.
  
  They always took the fucking cannoli though.

Kinda like how people write shit on bombs meant for Gaza but on bullets? LMAO yes I don't believe that at all
I wonder what's supposedly written on it. I'll bet FCK NZI in the RUN DMC logo

They finally released what the casings said, some homophobic shit, but no "transgender ideology".
- https://abcnews.go.com/US/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-utah/story?id=125474359
  One was the lyrics to an Italian WW2 song
  One just said "Hey fascist, catch!"
  and the last one said "If you read this, you are gay."
  Literally nothing related to Transpeople or "Anti-Fascist Ideology"
  
  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/charlie-kirk-shooter-manhunt-live-updates-rcna230762/rcrd88275?canonicalCard=true
  NBC is reporting a casing reading "notices, bulges, OWO, what's this?", which I'm guessing is what's being spun as a trans thing (lol, lmao even). The "hey fascist, catch" and Bella Ciao ones are pretty clearly antifascist.
  
  bella ciao is THE antifascist song. 🤨
  
  I would have no problems with anti fascist ideology, nor with trans messages

This false flag operation is insanely piss poor. It's like they were all sat in a room and told one of them was going to be scarified to initiate a civil war and here is your rhetoric start immediately saying the exact same thing.
And who has the most to gain? Couch fucker picking off his presidential rivals...

When did noting fascism is bad become an ideology?
- When a fascist conman convinced a nation of racist rubes to give him All The Powers.

Take this fucking lie down

I wonder if ~~Jeff Bezos~~ Murdoch will ever see punishment for making his news media mouthpiece publish this lie?
- WSJ is owned by Fox News Murdoch assholes, not Jeff Bezos. Both deserve shit. But let's give it where it's due.
- Bezos is Washington Post, not WSJ...
- Also, why the fuck is the Wall Street Journal commenting on some gang-related shooting?

Aint nobody gonna engrave a bullet casing with anything outside of manufacturing environment. Anyone with that capability isnt doing it for free either
- Man, you can just scratch metal. Engraving only takes a steady hand.

The TRN was a label put on by the manufacturer of the bullets, which they decided stood for “trans”. There was also a reference to a video game that consisted of a series of arrows, they decided the up and right arrows stood for male to female, then ignored all the other arrows.
Brilliant people working on this case, I’ll tell ya what.

One shot fired and there are multiple casings found? Yeah, this is bullshit.
- According to the WSJ there was just one spent round still chambered and three more in the magazine. So, still really stupid sounding as a theory but it's at least internally consistent.

It's amazing to me how easy it is to tell what's bullshit, and yet It'S sO hArD tO tElL wHaT's ReAl ThEsE dAyS
- Turns out the bullets were indeed engraved
  
  ... With manufacturing marks

This doesn't matter at all. Release the Epstein files

IT WAS A NICK FUENTES GROYPER BABY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- YUP

Well there you go. Got the idiot's hate pointed in the right direction and don't have to give up the shooter. Oh and Trump was an Epstein informant.

Suck my dick.
- Buy me a drink first.
  
  In this economy?

trump is trying anything to distract from the Epstein list

It was an inside job by a professional. There were two guys doing umpire signals to his immediate right. King pedo Karen just wants an excuse to declare martial law

Lol what could they have possibly put on the bullet casings to make somebody think this?

TRN clearly stands for TRump, doNald. Case closed. Speaking of which let's see those unredacted Epstein files.

I mean, if I was wanting a false flag, that's what I'd do.

Pretty convenient.

This is why I'm against extreme violence. "The Left" will end up like the Palestinians.
“More people will be murdered if the Left isn’t crushed with the power of the state,” Loomer added.
Even President Donald Trump blamed the shooting on “radical left political violence” in an Oval Office address Wednesday night.
William Wolfe, another Christian nationalist and a former Trump administration official, posted a video of the shooting with the comment: “The. Left. Must. Be. Destroyed.” In a separate tweet, he wrote, “The Democrats and the Left must be crushed. The goal for Republicans in the next ten years shouldn’t just be to win elections, but to destroy the Democrat Party entirely and salt the earth underneath it.”
- mate, that was always the plan. they will take any excuse to move in that direction no matter what you do. there is no civility with fascists.
- The left can sit in a corner and play nice. It doesnt matter, facists have to induce fear in order to gain control. They'll manufacture it they have to.

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