Still waiting...

Are you saying the Eastern Bloc was more democratic and responsive to public pressure than the liberal democracies of the West?

Tell me when anything actually changes in Serbia

At which point the state will make them violent.

And whst is really the point of not being violent when things are this fucked? Like, how are you refucing toral violence? Like wearing a baseball cap in a monsoon.

I'm not going to bother looking it up, so I'll ask you instead since you seem to care about it. What have they accomplished through those months of protesting?

Yep you got it, everyone who can see reality is a Russian now. You got us skippy.

Exactly. Everyone also forgets what a civil war looks like these days. It wouldn't be North vs South, it would be in every direction, everywhere. Nobody wants this.

For comparison, here's Myanmar. This started back in 2021: https://myanmar.iiss.org/introduction

idk why you come here when you're obviously a lib and leftist content makes you uncomfortable.

yes, meaningful changes towards fascism...

Progressive change has always had to face violent reactions. From abolition to the 40-hour workday, to child labour, to civil rights, to LGBT rights

Please provide a real-world example of polite peaceful protest convincing the ruling class to do something it didn't want to do.

You don't change their minds by appealing to their conscience or humanity, you do it by making it less attractive for them to give you what you want than for them not to give it to you. Every single scrap of progress has been won by threatening disruption, economic damage or physical violence.

We didn't get weekends and eight hour workdays because capitalists thought it was the morally right thing to do, we did it because denying these demands came with a realistic risk of angry workers going to their mansions and beating them to death.

Bonus question: Can you define authoritarianism?

gestures broadly to America today

And this was the fault of the black panthers, I’m assuming?

for centuries. Everyone in that timeframe who tried violence ended up in an authoritarian hellscape.

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french july revolution

greek war 1820s

all the various revolutions of the 1840s in europe

japan's restoration 1860s

cuban war late 1800s

chinese revolution 1910 (might be 1915. but fuck you btw)

just shut the fuck up you racist fucking moron

American revolutionists would like to have a word... And even though after the French revolution times were bad you can ask yourself whether they would have been any better off if the revolution hadn't occurred. Even if the French themselves weren't better off, fear of revolution triggered other authoritarian monarchs, like the Dutch king to agree to massive reforms. It's not always a simple A-leads-to-B connection.

idk, seems more like you can end up in an authoritarian hellscape either way, because efforts to establish it have to be defeated constantly. as soon as ppl stop paying attention, authoritarianism creeps in the back door. so i think it's a different issue that just seems related, because after (violent) protests they will use those as an excuse for their coup, but they would just find something else otherwise, like crime rates or illegal immigrants or so.

I see you've read your state provided history textbook well.