2w ago

Kosher

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Beging anti Israel is not the same as antijew...
One thing is Antisemite, the other is pro himan rights.
Edit: since my comment sended mixed messages... I am totally against the Person who did it... Just because they ordered kosher meal, does not mean, that the Person is pro israeal / against palestina. And yeah i think Too we need To free palestina from hamas and genocidal people.
But the thing with the food was a dick move.
Edit2: fixed typos from my dann Smartphone, since i didnt set up the english words on my keyboard
- Hi, Jew here. Allow me to demonstrate your stance.
  Fuck Israel's genocidal campaign and everyone who supports it.
  FIN
  
  ❤️
  More people need To think that way!
  
  My man.
  
  I may not know that many Jewish people but all of my hebros and hebroettes oppose genocide.
  
  Fartographer for prez!!!
- Yeah this is such a simple thing to argue against. The only jewish person that would be offended by a piece of paper with "free palestine" written on it is one that supports the Israeli genocide.
  
  Maybe it would be offensive if you are Jewish and you support Palestine? You might see it as an accusation against you? I dunno.
- Are the terms "vomment" and "kosher Neal" typos? Because I like to think that they aren't.
  
  Typos because my dann phone tried type words in my Language....
- Guys, it is apparently a 'severe antisemitic act'.
  I mean, what can be more antisemitic than that treacherous food labelling as a country?
  
  One of Israel's goals is to equate Judaism with the state of Israel. Whilst I respect the intention of whoever wrote that note, they also are unwittingly playing into Israel's agenda.
  There are many anti-zionist Jews, many of whom are some of the loudest voices pushing back against Israel. Let's be mindful of who our enemy actually is, because it is not the Jewish people
- That is tho what Israel is claiming, partly through divine provenance funnily enough

Aren't the Palestinians Semites?
- The word "semite" has two definitions, one mediveal and one modern.
  Palestinians are Semites according to both of them.
  
  Are eastern European origin Ashkenazis, semites, under any definition?
- In practice, "antisemitic" means "anti-Jewish".
  
  Only by the Jew's IHRA definition
- While yes, the specific term "anti-Semitism" was popularized by the German journalist Wilhelm Marr as an alternative to the (at the time) more common phrase Judenhaß (e.g. Jew-hatred).
  Basically, he wanted a more scientific-sounding term that made it sound less like plain hatred of other people but made it seem like the supposed deficiencies of Jewish people was a byproduct of their race rather than belonging to Jewish individuals.
  His use of semitism/semitic as only referring to Jewish people rather than the broader group of peoples the terms had, originally, been coined for was also in line with other Germans of both his era and the previous century (and certainly into the next century as the Nazis used these reasonings to back their more developed "race" science and world-view).
  That targeting has often been retained by the word even as it's outgrown its original prejudiced purpose.
  
  If true, this is ironic in that the Israeli government is the most similar to the Nazi government in our collective world history as far as genocide atrocities committed.
- And the award for best comment goes to you. Why didn't we all think of that?
  I'm being serious. Good argument.

Yeah, the genocide of Palestinians IS another holocaust!

It says “Free Palestin”. Totally different place
- It's a typo. It's supposed to say "plasticine".
- No I'm pretty sure palestin is food. They're just labelling the free food.
- The 'E' isn't on the sticker, but on the aluminium foil.

This is indeed yet another holocaust! Messages promoting human rights, especially the right to survival, may have once been "dirty jew" arguments, during German Nazi regime. Thank goodness that challenges to ethnic supremacy can be freely compared to a holocaust, today. Much progress.

Tony is glorifying the label "antisemite." Nobody is winning here.
- You know who else is "glorifying" antisemite? Israel.
  
  Deflection. You can't use their wrongs to justify yours.

For those confused, the concern of most of us is not that free palestine is an antisemitic statement, it is unequivocally not. The antisemitic part is thinking that because someone is jewish (ordering a kosher meal) that they need to be harassed and told "free palestine" let alone made to question the safety of their food.
- The details are lacking, if this is on everyones meals, then that's ok in my books, if it only targets Jewish people then there is a problems
  
  https://liveandletsfly.com/free-palestine-iberia-kosher-meal/ It was on other kosher meals, it does not technically say it wasn't also on other non-kosher meals. I think it's a reasonable assumption though.
  
  What if this was directed at someone wearing an Israeli flag. Does that mean it was not targeting a Jewish person and instead voicing political opposition to a political entity?
- muslims would likely prefer kosher meals as well, unless there's a specifically halal option.
- Way more than Jewish people order the kosher meal on a plane. You're making a bit of a leap assuming they're not Israeli. Not to mention assuming the story is real for which there's no evidence.
  
  https://liveandletsfly.com/free-palestine-iberia-kosher-meal/ Appears real, was on other kosher meals, and was not Israeli.
  
  well the question is: Did they put notes on non-kosher meals?
- If you are eating any type of meal and you receive a note saying free Palestine and you are offended? 🖕
  
  The offense is not at the message, it's that they were targeted to have it delivered.
- Why do you think that the flight crew knew that the passenger was Jewish?
  
  because you have to ask for a kosher meal specifically.

Boo hoo, somebody has a wake up call. Because this isnt antisemitic this is targeted. It is a simple fact that the vast majority of Jewish people support the Occupation, a smaller (but still majority) percentage of people either implicitly or explicitly supports the genocide.
I know this because im acturally Jewish, ive acturally seen the occupation with my own eyes, ive spoken to more Zionists than I could possibly count, and I know that there are few fellow Jews like me.
- It is a simple fact that the vast majority of Jewish people support the Occupation
  Even if this were true, it would still be wrong to target a random Jewish person for your message about Israel. Members of a class should not be treated differently because of that class, even if the concerns of the wider class are valid. That is literally prejudice. Pre-judicial thinking, you are judging them early.
  
  Well, if they wouldn't be zios, they'd hardly be offended though.
- Did you do the trip to Israel thing? I had a friend in college, cool kid he was Jewish and then one summer he did that free trip to Israel thing. I don't know what kind of brain washing they do, but he comes back randomly going off about Palestinians (this was decades ago) it was like all he can talk about and if you even defended their right to exist he would go into a huge tirade.
  
  Oh yeah thats a common thing, its calling "coming to Israel, returning from Palestine". Its when you see the horrors of the occupation and immediately become radicalized. I too have taken part in this and have seen many horrors, I have seen the destruction in Gaza and I have seen the military occupation in the west bank. Through my person experiences I have come to one conclusion
  THE ZIONIST OCCUPATION HAS NO INHERENT RIGHT TO EXIST

My brother...
- Oh wow, there's more of them!

Unfortunately It came from external provider. I like Iberia.

If it has this label, how can you be sure someone didn't spit in it or worse?
- You definitely can't
- That's the neat part, you don't

I thought this WASNT about anti semitism

Actually terrifying. Wouldn't eat the meal. This is exactly the kind of reason that most European jews hide their identities.
- Because they support genocide? 🤔
  
  Because people target them based on their religion/ethnicity.
  See my response here
- Why is this terrifying?
  
  I'd be afraid that the food had been tampered with. It isn't even something that I'd considered until I saw this post, but there is actually a huge degree of implicit trust involved in eating a meal prepared and handled by someone else.
  This meal was targeted specifically because it was labelled kosher, because it was expected that a jew would be receiving it.
  The message itself isn't anti-semitic, but the targeting is, and there are many actual anti-semites out there who want to cause real bodily harm and/or death to jews.
  How do you think a muslim or palestinian would react if their halal meal had been tagged with the note "never forget october 7" or something similar?
  
  I personally find it hilarious. And I'm a Jew who supports Palestine.
- Sound argument. I'd like to add that pork beats kosher!
  
  That definitely depends. On the one hand there are some pretty delicious jewish cultural dishes, and I know some Jews who are religious and stick strictly to kosher diets have a hard time with the taste of pork after not eating it for a long time (a bit like vegetarians with meat). On the other hand, bacon though...

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THE ZIONIST OCCUPATION HAS NO INHERENT RIGHT TO EXIST