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Armio2 @lemmy.ml

1mo ago

World without Iran vs World without Israel

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Half of conspiracy boy’s list is because of the US… And the JFK one just renders him without merit at all. So f’ing tired of the nonstop conspiracy sh’t people drivel. We are in a true golden age of just saying crap that sounds good to our anger.
- JFK assasination is plausibly because JFK demanded investigation of Israel their stolen nukes and the CIA was heavily compromised since then by Israeli spies.
  
  Jesus fucking Christ you people think “plausible” = true? Prove it, any of it, a smidgen of evidence. Anything…
- Half?

I highly doubt it. Without Israel the US would just pick another favorite child in the Middle East and carry on like before.
- They would definately try, but its really hard to find another child like Israel.
  
  Honestly I can't really think of any another excuse they could use to send white colonialists to live in the Middle East.
  If they can't put white colonialists there, the "favorite child" would have to be a nation from a local ethnicity (and, "worst", Muslim) and the whole propagandistic idea that "they have Western Values" - a slogan which carries both a "they think like us" for Liberals and a "they look like us" for Conservatives so as to get the support of both political groups - wouldn't work anywhere as well, plus there would be no group of people in the West unwaveringly supporting them entirely out of tribalism (as a large segment of the Jewish people in most Western countries support Israel no matter what).
  So I totally agree with you that it would extremelly hard, maybe even impossible, to have a favored child in the Middle East that could get the level of public opinion support in the West that Israel managed to get.

World without US?
- Give it time...

Uh... I appreciate the sentiment, but a lot of this stemmed out from late stage imperialism and WW1.

We have to stop them

Imagine no religion.... Yes I know religion is secondary cause of the conflict, but fewer Theocracies is always a good thing. Plus drying up the modern pilgrimage to slavery pipeline Saudi Arabia has created would be nice too.
- Religion is the excuse, not the cause.
  
  An excuse and a means.
- The thing is many people who are fighting and are against zionism have a religion too. palestinians have a religion too.
- People will use another excuse to commit massacres
  
  Sounds like an excuse for shitty, murderous imaginary friends

Pretty rare to see actual antisemitism showcased on this sub...
- Opposing Israel is not antisemitic; equating Israel with jews in general is, though
- It’s antisemitic to blame Jews for the actions of the Zionist entity
  
  Antisemites use Israel as a dog whistle for Jews while also blaming everything that's wrong on the Jews. Which the second person in the screenshot does.
- You do know that Palestinians are a semitic people too, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
  
  "Muslims aren't a race"-tier slopinion.
  (ACAB Free Palestine)

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