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Canada to recognise Palestinian state at United Nations

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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has announced that his country plans to recognise the State of Palestine at the United Nations.

In a Friday post on X, Carney stated: “Canada supports a two-state solution which guarantees peace and security for Israelis and Palestinians.” He added that Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week.

The Prime Minister also said that Canada condemns the Israeli government’s failure to prevent the rapid deterioration of the humanitarian adisaster in the Gaza Strip.

Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron declared his intention to recognise the State of Palestine in September 2025.

In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move, saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

Meanwhile, the Hamas movement welcomed Macron’s intention to recognise Palestine during the UN General Assembly in September.

Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people and support for their legitimate right to self-determination and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on all of its occupied territory, with Jerusalem as its capital.

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Hmm... I'm not actually seeing anything here that indicates an immediate plan to recognize Palestine as a state. Canada has been a supporter of a two state solution for a long time, but that's only a commitment to working towards Palestine becoming a state, it doesn't immediately imply that they'll follow in France's steps and immediately recognize Palestine as a state. The article offers no further evidence for the claim.
- You’re absolutely correct. Canada is not pursuing Palestinian statehood recognition. This statement was the second strongly worded statement against Israel that doesn’t contain any specific actions or steps.
  But oh boy, wait until warning #3 comes out! I hear it will be even more strongly worded and still have absolutely zero concrete plans or consequences!
  
  Al Jazeera is reporting that Macron asked the UK and Canada to join France in recognising Palestinian statehood but neither were willing.
  Obviously I very much hope that we do, but I agree, the above tweet does not indicate that we're about to do so.
  https://aje.io/f4w0aa?update=3858483
  Edit: found the original Reuters report https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/frustration-gaza-alarm-drove-macron-go-it-alone-palestine-recognition-2025-07-26/
- If they really believed in a two state solution, they would reconize it decades before the genocide. If they really believe in it . They would have stop any military relation with israel way before thr genocide. They would impose as strong sanctions as russia and iran in state level and not just few settlers that are financed by israel government
- We just didn't want to look lame compared to France
- "Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week"
  
  https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/frustration-gaza-alarm-drove-macron-go-it-alone-palestine-recognition-2025-07-26/
  
  Yes, I read that part. You clearly didn't. Nothing in there is an immediate commitment to recognize Palestine as a state. At best "work towards a two state solution" means "someday maybe Palestine might get to become a state if we're all feeling really generous."

Israel failed to prevent the humanitarian disasters that Israel started.
- Israel should never have been allowed to exist. Their presence only ever causes pain.
  
  Europe decided Jews weren't safe in Europe so gave up some of their colonial land in order to create a settler ethnostate in the most religiously significant region in the world.
  Questioning this is illegal
  
  Amen brother
- They also have a video / audio of US military contractors firing on Palestinian people after they have retrieved food to "disperse" the crowd. And one american shouted "you got one". The video is taken behind a hill so you don't see the commotion. The video was leaked by a merc that had a sense of conscience.
  And Israel, to disperse hungry Palestinians entering the aid area before it was actually open, were fired on by an Israeli Tank. Firing a tank shell into a crowd is not crowd dispersion, its just murder.
  
  Technically they dispersed people in all directions.
- Israel created a famine intentionally

How brave of them to make a statement, with no plans, goals, or commitments, after the entire region has already been flattened and its people murdered or starved.
This is leadership? Fuck that.
- "Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week"

YES! FUCKING FINALLY!
GOD DAMN IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!
- He had to ruin a forceful message to Israel by adding the "aLL SiDeS"
  
  Yeah I was on board and then I got to that and, of fucking course, he's a coward.
  
  Where do you see that in the tweet?

Well, at least next week isn't fucking September. A couple of weeks ago a 7-month-old baby girl named Salam died of starvation. I have never seen a human being so thin and it was a goddamn baby.
To be clear, I don't expect real action on this from Carney. I think it's disgusting how world leaders have left Palestine to starve and rot. It will get worse.
- Until we literally take to the streets this is what we will have. Our government doesn't represent us. Why do we prop it up?

Good move from Canada here.

saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.
Bruh he's not even trying to hide it anymore. Not that he ever did, but at least he had the sense to only say this stuff in Hebrew.

Too late. Now it's time to do real actions to stop israel final solution

If they had any balls, they would provide escorts to the freedom flotilla.

There's a lot of comments in this thread, with a LOT of up votes, claiming this is a nothing burger and isn't actually a change in Canadian foreign policy. I understand being annoyed at slow progress that should've happened long ago but claiming this is actually bad for Palestine is disingenuous.
Canada has never recognised a Palestinian government other than the Palestinian Authority (PA) which is an Israeli organisation set up to represent Palestine on behalf of Israel. Here they are clearly starting they have intention to do so which most likely will be the State of Palestine which is a Palestinian organisation that currently receives the most recognition in the United nations general Assembly.
Here they have declared their intent:
"Canada supports a two-state solution"
Here they have declared their current plans regarding recognition:
"Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week."
Here Isreal have denounced the move by Canada:
"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move,"
Here Hamas has declared support for similar plans for recognition that France has made:
"Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people"
If I were a paranoid person I'd say that the comments declaring Canada's plan to recognise Palestine are futile and meaningless are pro Israeli propaganda planted to look like a pro Palestinian stance. And when it comes to discussions about Israel online, I am very paranoid.
- I think the issue people are having is that this tweet from the PM does not appear to represent any kind of change in policy.
  In fact just yesterday, Reuters reported that Canada and the UK were asked by Macron to join France in recognising Palestinian statehood but refused: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/frustration-gaza-alarm-drove-macron-go-it-alone-palestine-recognition-2025-07-26/
  
  Okay, so there's an upcoming conference at the UN about officially recognising the state of Palestine that has been proposed by France. Yes France was unable to get the UK and Canada to cosponsor the proposal but that is not the same as rejecting it. We will only know the official stance after the conference. However, this tweet by the Canadian government is referring to this proposal by France. In the tweet he stated that "Canada supports a two state solution" and that "Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week." Together it seems likely that Canada is intent on supporting the proposal, again we will only know after the conference.

I swear Macron and Carney are friends in real life
- Just like Trump is friends with.....oh right.....Putin and Epstein. Wait not the same thing :) "I have the best friends, the most beautiful friends, oh yes...when you hear about my friends you're gonna love it"
  
  If you actually pedo-smear Putin, he'll kill you fo real. He did that once via a pill

I am sorry, but nowhere does he say that.
The "we want a two state solution, but wont recognize a palestinian state until Israel agrees to it" has been the modus operandi of many Genocide supporting countries. They know Israel wont ever agree to it while they reject putting actual pressure on the Zionist project.
- "Canada supports a two state solution"

"Supporting a two-state solution" is not the same as recognizing Palestine.
Recognizing Palestine is a symbolic gesture at the moment since there's no Palestinian government that controls both the West Bank and Gaza. Generally when countries do this, the recognize the PA as the government of Palestine, but that implies that Gaza isn't part of Palestine (which nobody really thinks) and the West Bank is under occupation, so what does that even mean? I
Recognition of Palestine is just a way to protest Israel and/or the US, nothing more. It's a symbolic act, not a meaningful change in anything on the ground.
What Carney said is more sensible. Everyone reasonable wants a two-state solution, strangely it's only Netanyahu and radical pro-Palestinian groups that want a one state solution. They only differ on which ethnic group should control that one state.
Even then it's premature to talk about a long term peace before there's a ceasefire, but this is mostly about putting pressure on Israel to bring in more humanitarian aid because the US isn't doing that anymore.
Not sure what this conference will accomplish though... is any country going to commit ground troops to Gaza? We all want more humanitarian aid (and eventually a stable peaceful government) in Gaza, but how do you actually make that happen?
- I agree with a lot of what you've said here but a one-state solution is not necessarily a question of "which ethnic group controls the state". The anti-apartheid, anti-genocide advocates for a one-state solution generally argue for full rights for all citizens and a secular administration, if I'm not mistaken.
  
  Jews would still be a majority in a one state solution. What's the term for changing an area from occupied territory to be part of a country where the people are citizens? Annexation.
  That's why the whole "apartheid state" thing is a silly slogan used by people who don't actually understand anything. Netanyahu wants to annex the West Bank and it seems the "apartheid state" crowd agrees that this is the best solution. But I don't think they really do agree with Netanyahu, it's just non-serious people spewing non-sense slogans. They don't understand what the word annexation means and don't care that Palestinians might want their own state apart from Israel.

This dosent change jack shit. UN memberships have to be approved by all the perminent members of the security council and the US is a perminent member of said council. And in the UN the US always does what Israel tells them to.
If I remember correctly last year there was a vote on palistine becoming a member and the only countires that voted no was the US and Israel but palistine is still not a member because Israel told the US to block it.
- Then we should sanction the us

Wait, where does he say he's recognising Palestine?
- "Canada supports a two state solution"
  
  That's not a new stance, and doesn't amount to recognition on any schedule.
- The last paragraph, he starts the paragraph saying the official government stance is the two state solution and sovereignty of Palestine
  
  That's been the official position forever. Canada wants a Palestinian state, but it's not recognizing one yet. Basically they put out a nothing statement and people are thinking it's something new.
  
  That's been the government line for decades, though. The idea being the negotiation process will start in earnest any moment now and then recognition for Palestine can be part of it. Which also conveniently doesn't anger Israel or the US.

I mean, at some point, you just need to finish the job.

Weak
To be clear, Palestine needs to be recognized, I'm saying this is too weak (and very late) of a response.

Anthony Housefather will be very upset.

Israelis and Palestinian citizens need to agree together that they have to oust their Hamas and Netanyahu regime oppressors. Without this, nothing will change.

The craziest thing about Carney is that he's plotting to defund the CBC by 15%, according to https://thedeepdive.ca/carneys-spending-review-order-makes-cbc-brace-for-15-budget-cut/

Recognize hamas
- And then destroy them.

Someone explain this to me: https://iris.org.il/images/israel-and-arab-world.gif
All the countries in yellow are Arab.
The little tiny slice in the middle in blue is Jewish and in that blue even the West Bank and Gaza are part of that blue island and are mostly occupied by the Arabs.
And these Arab nations believe that the Israel should not belong to the Jews and some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth.
Why? Why is not the 99% of that land that belongs to the Arabs not enough for them?
Where are the Jews supposed to go?
- That's a rather odd way to express complete ignorance of the whole concept of history, not to mention geography and culture.
- Look at a map of Europe, it's all Europeans. Why did Europeans feel the need to create a settler colony in the middle east to send Jews that weren't safe in Europe?
  
  I dunno but they did. Probably so the Nazis wouldn't hunt them down and exterminate them all like they tried to do in the 40s?
  Why shouldnt they have their own country?
- Canadian Jews have a safe, democratic country that cherishes them and wants them to thrive and that country is called Canada.
  If you're asking about Israeli Jews, your answer is the same in principle as for any other ethno-religious group in the Levant (Druze, Maronite, Sunni, Antiochian, Alawite, Shia, Beduin, Kurdish etc). There is nothing cosmically special or exceptional about Jewish people, as there is nothing cosmically special or exceptional about Alewites. To claim so would be pure antisemitism. So what should they do? Play nice with the other communities, and build a plurinational, inclusive democratic state with equal rights for all people of all and of no sects. The Jews don't deserve anything more or anything less than any other levantine ethnicity/religious group. Human Rights and Democracy for all.
  Edit: or some sort of balkanization I guess. Small homegeneous statelets at the mercy of bigger powers. Meh. Democracy is better.
  
  Thank you for a civilized and reasonable answer. There are some other small brained, rabid respondents here who could learn from you.
- The Palestinian people have a right to self-determination.
  Go deny genocide and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights somewhere else.
  
  Whoa. Whose denying anything? I'm asking questions.
- "Arabs" aren't an uniform entity.
  Would you go explain a guy in vancouver that we bombed your house because Canada have all the land from Nova Scotia to alaska? What a shit excuse to defend population forced departure.
  Why don't you give back some land to the miqmaqs
- some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth. Why?
  I don't know if you'll find devil advocates willing to entertain such a hyperbolic frame of reference.
  There are people out there who also think that Arabs should be wiped off the earth, but I don't think it's worth asking why. Makes more sense to shun those people off than giving them space for discourse.
  
  Iran hasn't said that Jews should be wiped off the face of the earth? One quick google says otherwise: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran
- There are jews in palestine
- And these Arab nations believe that the Israel should not belong to the Jews and some (strongly) believe they should be wiped off the earth.
  Oh I don't know maybe it's all the war crimes, bombing of civilians, spoilation and forced deportation?
- If the existence of the state of Israel requires the extermination or forced relocation of the people of Palestine, then it should not exist.
  If the existence of the state is Isreal does not require the extermination or forced relocation of the people of Palestine, then what Israel is doing is indefensible.
  You know these facts. They are self evident. There is no way to defend Israel's actions without ultimately arguing against Israel's right to exist at all, which is why you're hiding behind this disingenuous mask of "Just asking questions" and constantly talking around your meaning instead of outright saying it.

CACA
Carney Always Chiken Away

Ask the bigger questions. Like why is this conflict so important to people compared to the other hudrends of conflicts currently going on that no one talks about?
- I don't know, why would the world be glued to an active genocide the media and our politicians told us for decades isn't happening?
- Why should people in the West care about an ongoing Western colonial project committing ethnic cleansing and genocide?
- Ok, we should talk about those, too. But very much we should talk about this one, especially since a lot of our tax money goes to propping the oppressors up.
- The longest current occupation, israel is determined to do a final solution that the west is complicit with
- Probably because nobody is talking about the conflicts.
- Funny how you suddenly care about "other conflicts" suddenly when we talk about the conflict you don't like.
  Kinda like you suddenly care a lot about women's right when it comes to bombing arabs
  Kinda like you suddenly care a lot about gay rights when it comes to bombing iran
  You're transparent af

...fucking anti-semites...
- It is not about you, Jan. We just want to stop the organized starving of kids to death.
  
  ...which semites are you anti?... /s

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