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what's something you believe strongly but have little knowledge about

have been wondering recently what my blind spots are, what are beliefs I have that are unexamined or based on too little evidence for how much I believe them ...

maybe there are common patterns, that people commonly believe false things and I might be challenged in my own beliefs this way

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  • Economics. I think they're inexplicable, and yet clearly something is working.

    I believe that the fact that there's a saying, "get four economist in a room and you'll get five opinions" is evidence that no one truly understands economics, but many only (wrongly) think they do. I personally believe it's a glitch in the matrix, a hot patch thrown in by developers when the simulation unexpectedly evolved beyond the capacity for barter/trade to handle the scale of the systems. It wasn't well or thoroughly designed, and frequently crashes (like the big one in the 30's, and periodic smaller ones since).

    And yet... there's clearly something there.

    • Economists don't understand economics since they dumped out the LTV in XIX century. Current science of economics is basically a cult writting plausible sounding justifications for capitalism.

    • As @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml said, Marxist economics are sound and they work. The problem is that the conclusions of Marxist economics point to it being unquestionably correct to move beyond capitalism and into socialism, so the capitalist status-quo spends more time trying to make up any excuses they can to keep the gravy train going for that little bit longer. Liberal economists can't form a consensus because it's all based on rejection of working economic theory.

      • The problem is that the conclusions of Marxist economics point to it being unquestionably correct to move beyond capitalism and into socialism

        It's even earlier, Marx himself noted that conclusion of LTV itself is socialism and indeed all the economists basing on Ricardo's work arrived at this point. Marx was just completely conscious in his tries and used dialectical materialism unlike others to develop a scientific socialism, thus his theory was the best one. He also noted that this necessity was why the pet economists of capitalists needed to take a step back and turned mainstream political economisc into the superficial justifications of capitalism, that happened with J.S. Mill Junior iirc.

      • I don't agree on this point, because I think communism is predicated on selflessness, and there's a decent amount of evidence that we're only selfless on the small scale (communities ≈ 150 ppl). Without selflessness, communism depends on authoritarianism, forcing people to be selfless and work for the greater good.

        Capitalism has enjoyed relative success because it is predicated on selfishness. It's not necessarily better for society, but the fact that there are no large, successful communisms is pretty strong evidence that it exploits humanity's baser nature. I don't see communism working outside of either small, isolated communities, or in idealized, hypothetical thought experiments.

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