Disposable E-Cigarettes More Toxic Than Traditional Cigarettes: High Levels of Lead, Other Hazardous Metals Found in E-Cigarettes Popular with Teens

I saw this same exact comment under another thread that talked about a study, but it was clearly wrong as they were from different parent companies. In this case, the brands aren't even named in the study. Again, I must ask for source for your claim, but again I don't expect you to provide it.

Also, it's only disposables. I use the rebuildable rtm coils with tiny microcoils I wind myself and cotton at 12W, and I've had my blood tested recently per a physcial and lead was on the sheet at a negligible amount.

Some other dude might use an entirely different brand, someone might use pods, someone might use old gear, set in their ways.

And the coils for all of these setups range from pieces of mesh to metal plates to wound pieces of wire to ceramic disks to who knows what. There is no standard.

Yeah keep on trying to justify your habit. Just admit they’re bad but you like them anyway.

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IT'S A NATURAL PLANT

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Just have a cocktail and smoke a cig, it’s better than weed and ecigs! How dare you switch because of rat poison found in our cigs and how the RICH banded hemp due to lobbying by the paper people… not due to anything else! Cool!

They aren’t in the UK, technically, but manufacturers get around it by making them rechargeable.

I’ve read about people that don’t bother recharging them, though.

Because the Trump and Biden FDA banned everything else already. Now they want to ban whats left in order to push people back toward cigarettes which can still be purchased at every gas station, grocery or convenience store in the country.

There needs to be a $20 deposit on them that you get back when you turn in the empty vape.

Or, hot take, make vapes you can refill.

This. So much effort being put into regulating zero-waste bags and attached bottle cups yet those vapes fly under the radar

They're comparing it to cigarettes and other vapes.

20 times more lead is still 20 times more lead.

Some of the studies on smoking I've seen were less about understanding how and why people consume tobacco and recommend alternatives, and more like echoing the old practices and beliefs of the temperance movement, which considers tobacco and alcohol as archenemies of humanity. That anytime there's someone publicly declaring they quit smoking, it's followed with praises which at times reminiscent of a tent revival.

Regulatory issues. Adulterants in shitty quality disposables.

Not "vaping inherently dangerous."

the disposables are the problem. probably manufacturing or regulations. the way the coils aren't changed, the way it sits in it, the way they use highly concentrated nicotine salts... it's nothing like the classic refillable tank and box mods that just took regular juice with nothing but PG/VG/nicotine/flavoring

Chemical composition of the resistance wire

Quality control, especially of cheap vapes

People want to ingest a harmful drug and not see that as a threat to their health?

Sure, but the diesel bus that just drove by you gave you way more cancer than Brad with his Vanilla Mocha vape did.

You can smell the fucking cotton candy if a guy in a car vapes in front of you.

Those people are jackasses and should be shamed. I quit a 6 year cigarette smoking habit with just one year of using an actual vape, not these shitty gas station things. One of the best decisions I've made in my life. The potential for smoking cessation is there. But stupid and obnoxious people set the basis for stereotypes.

Dude, I hope you try to quit those too. If you've ever met someone who can't breathe from COPD, it's a tough time for them.

Hey GPT! List a bunch of chemicals they put in our air, water, and food that we breathe, drink, and eat every day!

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Sure, buddy!

Sodium nitrite – processed meats (bacon, ham, hot dogs) – forms nitrosamines → DNA damage, colon cancer BHA – cereals, chips, preserved fats – endocrine disruption, liver and stomach tumors BHT – gum, snacks, butter – weak estrogen mimic, promotes lung and bladder tumors Propyl gallate – oils, meats, soup base – oxidative stress, endocrine disruption, tumor growth Red 3 (Erythrosine) – candy, cherries, cake decor – thyroid tumors, DNA strand breaks Potassium bromate – white bread, rolls – kidney tumors, oxidative DNA damage Titanium dioxide – candy, gum, supplements – genotoxicity, gut inflammation, colon cancer Aspartame – diet soda, sugar-free gum – linked to blood cancers in rodents, metabolic disruption Carrageenan – non-dairy milk, ice cream, deli meat – chronic gut inflammation, promotes tumors Polysorbate 80 – ice cream, dressings – gut permeability, inflammation, tumor promotion Carboxymethylcellulose – frozen foods, sauces – microbiome disruption, chronic inflammation TBHQ – chips, fast food, frozen meals – immune suppression, cell mutation, liver tumors Bisphenol A (BPA) – canned food linings, water bottles – hormone mimic, breast/prostate cancer Bisphenol S (BPS) – BPA-free plastics, receipts – endocrine disruptor, reproductive harm Phthalates – food packaging, gloves – testosterone suppression, breast cancer, birth defects PFOA – Teflon pans, food wrappers – thyroid disruption, kidney/testicular cancer PFOS – stain-resistant wrappers – immune suppression, liver tumors Trihalomethanes – chlorinated tap water – bladder cancer, reproductive toxicity Haloacetic acids – tap water disinfection byproducts – DNA damage, liver tumors Formaldehyde – air fresheners, glues – nasopharyngeal cancer, leukemia Benzene – car exhaust, cleaning products – blood cancers, bone marrow suppression Toluene – paints, nail polish – neurotoxin, possible liver cancer link Xylene – solvents, adhesives – respiratory inflammation, CNS toxicity Vinyl chloride – PVC plastics – liver cancer, angiosarcoma 1,3-butadiene – air pollution, rubber manufacturing – leukemia, lymphomas

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The metal coil that needs to get red hot to vaporize the PG/VG.

It implies that the heavy metals from the electrical components leech into the e-juice

Lead comes from the device hardware, not the juice. Heating coils, solder, and metal parts shed particles when hot.

It's so fucked that every single actor in the Marlboro commercials died of lung cancer. All of them.

I swapped off vapes back to American Spirits after finding this study lol.

Marlboro reds are really tasty, but i know they're horrible for you as far as cigarettes go.

"Hey guys, I'll be right back. Just headed outside to smoke some DMT."

AND it doesn't involve discarding electronics and batteries with each unit.

yes! i highly recommend working towards psychologically quitting while you smoke, first and foremost, but then secondly if you're gonna smoke only use the DIY tank mods with your own coils, and your own juice ideally.

Only problem is kanthal and cotton have gotten harder to source since everything is either dispos or smok now, have to get everything online.

That's what I've done for years now. I started at the very beginning when we were using eGo batteries and Nova tanks and rewicking them with tea bags. Now I use quality kanthal that I sourced a lot of when the place I was using shut off access to the hobbiest market (they may have returned, but I don't remember the name). There's some sort of certification sticker on the spools of wire that specify it is Kanthal A1 which contains aluminum as the most concerning metal.

Who the fuck KNOWS what these resistance wires in the disposables are. The vape manufacturer probably doesn't even know and really, doesn't care. All they have to do is get close to the right resistance for each coil produced and the computer takes care of the rest. Lead makes metal bend easier so if you throw a little lead in your resistance wire it's going to go through the machine easier.

Why? Have you heard of Aliexpress?

Disposable vapes are generally made in China.

Go buy weed and pay tax. Weed may be made illegal again but not if you buy it...

In other news, weed vapes weren't studied here.

Its literally only the shitty disposable ones from china that are owned by the tobacco companies. A good quality vape with real nicotine juice is made with propylene glycol, the ingredient in asthma inhalers, and nicotine. Its literally just a nicotine delivery system. The only unhealthy thing about these disposable ones is the fact that theyre contaminated.