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Greta Thunberg refuses to watch Oct. 7 footage after flotilla stopped

www.jpost.com Greta Thunberg refuses to watch Oct. 7 footage after flotilla stopped | The Jerusalem Post

Four of the activists are departing the country, including Greta Thunberg. However, eight have refused to leave and will be transferred to Givon detention facility.

Israeli authorities screened footage of Hamas's October 7 atrocities to Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg and other pro-Palestinian flotilla participants upon their arrival in Ashdod on Monday, shortly after the IDF intercepted their ship, the Madleen, in international waters.

According to Defense Minister Israel Katz, the activists refused to continue watching the film after seeing the brutality of the attacks.

"These antisemitic flotilla activists closed their eyes to the truth and once again proved they prefer the murderers over the victims,” Katz said. “They continue to ignore the atrocities committed by Hamas against Jewish and Israeli women, the elderly, and children.”

The activists were given the option to sign a voluntary departure form or face arrest after 96 hours. Among those refusing to leave is French MEP Rima Hassan.

Hassan has previously drawn wide criticism for her denial that the Bibas family, excluding Yarden Bibas, were murdered, her claim that the October 7 massacre was "legitimate" and her insistence that Palestinians in Europe should be allowed to join the "resistance."

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Is no one going to say or do anything about the fact that Israel illegally "intercepted" another ship in international waters?
Also arrested for what? They weren't even under Israeli jurisdiction when picked up.
- Sweden threw her under the bus, along with the rest of the West.
- The entire earth's waters are under the USA's jurisdiction, didn't you know? Maybe you should read some more CNN news stories about China's evil navy trying to take over the South China Sea from the USA, who obviously should have more control over the South China Sea than China does. And the Israeli Navy is just another branch of the American Navy, which has the second largest air force in the world (after the American Air Force).
- Laws are fake.
- All legal under the letter of international law pertaining to military engagement. That it is in international waters is irrelevant legally speaking. See the legal grounds for the sinking of Belgrano for a clearer example. As long as they can think of a halfway credible excuse that they think the vessel will cause aid to their enemy, they have the right to interdict it in international waters.
  
  The Belgrano was a military ship, this one isn't. So even if you're right regarding military vessels, I doubt the same would hold for a civil one.
  
  Which halfway credible evidence do they have? They have none. The blockade is illegal so intercepting it is illegal too
  
  Sorry I'm late but this is not entirely correct, they were arrested in what's considered High Seas in the Mediterranean, which has clear rules from the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea. See 3.4 Maritime Boundaries
  https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/2009/431602/IPOL-PECH_ET(2009)431602_EN.pdf
  https://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part7.htm

Peaceful protestor held at gunpoint refuses to watch violent propaganda.
As such, branded as hypocrite.
Modern politics.
- Delivering baby formula to certain people seen specifically as a form of protest by all media.
  Modern politics.

This is quite literally the plot to A Clockwork Orange.
- At leat in A Clockwork Orange the point of the footage wasn't to try to persuade them that violence is good.
  
  How did it end, again? I forget

October 7 atrocities
Israel has been doing october 7 numbers daily for over a year now. Even if hamas managed to do 100x the numbers on the day it still wouldnt justify this unlimited childmelting that israhell is doing.
- And that's not even counting all the shit isntreal has been doing since it's inception.
- I'm always reminded that CBC was including a graph of Israeli & Palestinian deaths after October 7 in their reporting on Gaza. They quietly stopped including it when Palestinian deaths dwarfed Israeli deaths and made it clear that Israel was killing indiscriminately

They refused to watch a propaganda video 🙄

Do they think the floridly theatrical condescension makes them look like the good guys here?
- Oh absolutely, yes. The entire country is rotten to the core.

"These antisemitic flotilla activists closed their eyes to the truth and once again proved they prefer the murderers over the victims,” Katz said. “They continue to ignore the atrocities committed by Hamas against Jewish and Israeli women, the elderly, and children.”
Not gonna believe this hasbara rag unless they show unedited video of the flotilla participants not watching the tapes. And likewise for everything else in the article. 💩
- Worthwhile reminder that, of the ~1000 israelis who died on October 7th, 36 (<4%) were minors. In Gaza, more than 30% of the 60,000-100,000 Palestinians killed by israel are children.
  israel has killed an October 7th's worth of Palestinians before their first birthday (916 infants). They've killed more than 10,000 kids 12 or younger. And they still have the nerve to play victim. Thoroughly diseased society.

"These antisemitic flotilla activists closed their eyes to the truth and once again proved they prefer the murderers over the victims,”
weren't they just bringing food and supplies for normies on the strip?
TIL everyone in Gaza is Hamas
- TIL everyone in Gaza is Hamas
  Well Israel has been openly claiming it for years. So we'll done.
  Just like questioning the acts of the Israel government. Is an attack on every Jewish person. Even if Jewish folks object.
- Oh you want to bring people food and medicine???!!? 🤔😬😬
  You should watch this fake video I made about them first, then you'll change your mind.😏
  /s
  
  I’ve seen first-person clips of October 2023 atrocities attributed to Hamas.
  Do you have any idea if those are real or not? Given how self-incriminating those would be, I find it odd that Hamas would upload those videos.

There's no footage from October 7th that comes close to what happens in Gaza every fucking day.
- The IOF and the apartheid officials need to be forced to watch every hour recorded of Palestine’s suffering.
  Fair’s fair.

Voluntary departure from where? The international waters, from which they were kidnapped?

"Lost its radio signal" As if we didn't have footage of them jamming
"Blockade to avoid weapon delivery"
"Ship carrying humanitarian aid"
"These antisemitic flotilla"
"The IDF prepared in advance to intercept the ship before it could enter Israeli territorial waters; "
Enough said
- Lindsey Graham advocated for worse.

Isreal knew Oct 7 was coming.
Source: I know this sounds crazy but trust me
- They did, it has been proven beyond any doubt because they openly admitted it. They also willfully ignored warnings from military officials. Also the pager operation was already in progress months before Oct 7 so they were planning all out war with the whole region for a while.
  
  Yep, they also purposefully moved the festival closer to Gaza. The organisers is known to have Mossad connections

voluntary departure form
I bet that form is basically a declaration of allegiance to the entity and states that the zionists are pure innocent angels who've never done anything wrong and that every Palestinian is a ultra mega Nazi.
Also, just the phrasing of being forced to sign a """"voluntary"""" departure form or face indefinite brutal imprisonment after being kidnapped in international waters is so insane.
- I was wondering if the 96 hours were sleep dep, forced to watch the film.

"These antisemitic flotilla activists closed their eyes to the truth and once again proved they prefer the murderers over the victims,” Katz said. “They continue to ignore the atrocities committed by Hamas against Jewish and Israeli women, the elderly, and children.”
They refused to watch videos of atrocities that aren't part of the videos, such as the murders of babies (unfounded) and mass sexual violence (unfounded). They must hate Jews. They certainly aren't protesting the genocide of Palestinians. It can't be that. /s

This unlawful attempt at forced brainwashing is truly scandalous and absolutely intolerable with its repugnant double standards.
No one disputes that the terrorist attack by Hamas was brutal.
Nevertheless, this by no means justifies the genocide being committed by Israel. There are also horrific images of this, of starving children, cold blooded murder of civilians and unbearable suffering - and Israel is even using every means at its disposal to prevent the world from seeing the full extent of their own atrocities.
If Israel were to adhere even remotely to international law and human rights, Thunberg would not be there.
It is absurd that this country continues to portray itself as the victim. They are the perpetrators and responsible for crimes against humanity.
These savages who represent Israel are truly the scum of the earth.
- Hamas wanted hostages, not bodies.
  Don't give an inch. The brutality came from the Israeli side. They fired on their own people to stop them from being taken hostage.
- No one disputes that the terrorist attack by Hamas was brutal.
  Lol what. > 33% active duty IDF soldiers killed. Almost no children.

"Yeah, I agree, that is horrible. I am literally just trying to keep more innocent people from suffering and dying..."

Well, those Gaza children shouldn't have committed those atrocities.
- Maybe next time they'll pick a better region to be born in

Remember, kids, nothing Israel has done justifies October 7th, but also, October 7th justifies everything Israel is doing.

"Hostage refuses to be psychologically tortured by war criminals"

Are the Jewish nazis trying to guilt trip them into helping their genocide? Before you even say anything what's the difference between a free range cage and a cage? The comfort level of the animal. A lot easier to gun down when you say it's safe here
- what’s the difference between a free range cage and a cage? The comfort level of the animal.
  I think you are making a rhetorical point unrelated to animal welfare, but in point of fact, "free range" hens do not enjoy a meaningfully greater level of comfort. The only way to reduce these suffering of exploited vulnerable individuals is not to pay for their exploitation in the first place.
  
  You and I both know it's the marketing of the comfort level of the chicken but there is no such thing in reality under industrialism. Nobody is under a rock here.

Who's posting this Israeli propaganda
- I'm assuming everyone here is smart enough to recognize and filter out the propaganda.
  What is left is Israelis boasting about their own war crimes.

So Israel is doing the „But they are doing it too!” thing
Are we in kindergarten or what?

According to Defense Minister Israel Katz, the activists refused to continue watching the film after seeing the brutality of the attacks.
So this headline is probably a lie.
- 😂

wouldn’t the footage be of defenders coming in to boot out the invading zionists?

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