What would you do?

No. I said I would die for them. Nothing more, nothing less.
- Yeah sounds like they're just being greedy now tbh

I appreciate the sentiment, but it still leaves some of that "no need to be depressed! Just eat organic home made meals, get 8hrs uninterrupted sleep on schedule, and take a couple hours a day to walk in the woods - it's free so anyone can do it!" taste in my mouth.
- It rings hollow for folks with chronic illnesses, too. It's simply easier to do these things when you're starting from a baseline of health.
  
  I have a severe chronic illness that has destroyed my ability to do just about anything and causes immense pain. I still try to live for my loved ones and do what I can within my limited power to improve my circumstances. This post is not an attack on people like me.

Damn, lemmy is cynical as fuck.
This is a positive message half of you turned into an attack on yourselves.

Well, to be fair, they already said they would die for their family. All of the other things would just interfere with that.

There's a quote in The Catcher in the Rye, attributed to Wilhelm Stekel:
The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one.
In most cases, one can do a lot more aggregate good over a long period of time than in a flashy moment, and we should live our lives in recognition of that reality.
- Good quote

for family? who do you think i am? Vin Diesel?
- Each item in this list is a euphemism for drinking Corona.

It's what makes Walter White a weak person. Even when his family needed him, he cowered when he had to face his ego, false pride and other vices.
Knowing that you COULD become this badass, but choosing not to, for his family, while nobody else would ever believe that he could have, that'd be the mark of a hero.

ITT: People addicted to feeling miserable making any excuse they can for refusing to even attempt to improve their lives in any way.
- People are addicted to convenience and routine, not necessarily comfort or happiness.
  A lot of people have a hard time understanding this, so much so that they invent reasons for why they avoid change and empowerment. You may not realize that in your own brain, you're going to feel really attached to predictable patterns, far more than you will get attached to new, happy experiences.
  The cognitive dissonance that this creates makes people do and say really funny things, or really dangerous things.
- Bingo. Even though eating at a deficit saves money and walking just requires shoes.

How the fuck do you "fix your sleep"? Also I can't afford to eat healthier, I do the best I can. I have made changes. And exercise? We're working 2-3 jobs each year-round just vto survive. What rich privileged asshole wrote this shit?
- You do the best you can - so that's enough. I read the post as aimed at infantile idiots who continue to believe that dying for something is some great feat worthy of praise - nuh-uh, living for the cause takes way way more
- One of the best and slighty weird ways to eat healthier even when the food is hot garbage is to don't eat the bun. Sooo many saved calories. Just things like that. Don't eat all the fries. Don't finish the whole 32oz soda. If are eating unhealthy but food at home you can probably find similar little cuts. It adds up over time
  
  switching out that 32oz soda for a zero-calorie option and going for a lettuce wrap instead of a bread bun will save you close to 400 calories, most of which are sugar. Asking for an unsalted patty and unsalted fries will save a few hundred mg of sodium as well.

They don't have time to excercise. They work 12 hour days and spend two hours fighting traffic. They barely have enough time to make supper before it's bedtime when they get home. They can't eat that healthy. They live in a food dessert where the affordable food is nothing but shitty processed food and they'd need a bank loan to eat good stuff. They can't fix their sleep. See my second sentence. What bad habits? All they do is work, travel and sleep?! Way to be out of touch @genuinley-healthy. Your privilege is showing.
- Which just means it's time for change. Now, preaching "just buy a house" is nice and cosy, but doesn't help shit, I know. The situation you described means no choice is easy to make or exercise, but trying to say nothing can be done is an attempt to lie. Don't do that to yourself or others