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Merlu @lemmy.ml

1mo ago

Somali-American leaders in Minnesota encouraged their constituents to vote for Trump because “he won’t abandon us like the left did”. Trump just restricted nationals from Somalia from entering the US

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In my country, it's called "voting for the fox because the rooster is crowing out of tune".

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People were told this was going to happen and they chose to not listen. No sympathy for stupid Americans at all.
- This ! I'll never understand people who assume that a party is good just because it's the opponent of the one that abandoned or betrayed them.
  
  "They abandoned us! Let's vote for the party that actively promotes lies about us and says they will deport us instead!"

Promises made, promises kept.
Unlike the Democrats, Trump and the Republicans didn't abandon the Somali-American community. They are actively attacking it.
- Can't abandon what you never supported
  taps forehead/temple

You have to congratulate the republicans really, time and time again they attack minorities and at the same time, they are growing by converting the very people they attack in to Republicans. Truly, the propaganda machine they're unleashing is very effective. These immigrants are escaping their own fascist governments to elect another fascist government where they now live.
And the Democratic party in their wisdom, looks over and says "well if people like old fascists let's put up another old person for a Republican Lite campaign. Someone too liberal for the Republicans and not enough liberal for people on the left."
- It turns out that anyone can be a conservative idiot who votes against their own self interest.
- They are not. There is only one group of which the majority voted Trump:
  White people
  
  White men have always been high republican voters, sure. The GOP doesn't need to convert more white men, they're converting everybody else. They're converting latinos, blacks, muslims, LGBTQ, women, younger people. They're doing an amazing job at it too.
  
  You keep trying to argue a point nobody is making.

Real question, i can't seem to figure out.
How did the left abandon these people?
- Gay rights, they're a religious group that is just as intolerant as the Saudis or Pakistan.
  
  They can honestly get fucked.
- America doesn't have a mainstream left party.
  It has a status quo party (Democrats) and a fascist party (Republicans).
  Clearly the status quo sucks for most Americans, so they're more tempted by fascist alternatives.
  
  "Things are kinda bad, maybe they'll get better if they get worse."
- they can't get representation like they could have if they had their own party and could win their own seats
  Run-off voting would prevent the worst by turning the presidential elections into FPTP while the rest remain free to vote for your preferred party
  For example, you could vote for Somalia Concerns Concord and it could win a seat or two from new York or California, then vote for Democrats when the 2nd presidential vote is held because no party had a majority beforehand
  
  FPTP is a trash system

Sounds like the Somali-American community in Minnesota should look for new leadership.

I mean, have the day you voted for.

You know, morons.

If you can't see how amazingly awful the US right wing is then I think you probably shouldn't be allowed to form legal contracts for your own safety.

Idiots.

I mean, its technically true, right? They weren't abandoned because the right never supported them in the first place?

I can’t believe people thought that Trump was a better man or a changed man. Idiots, all of them.

Hear me out. Sometimes I hear quantum physics stuff and my brain understands what is being said but just like still cannot grasp how to reach some of the conclusions. Like it doesn't fit my mindset or something, I don't know. String theory is hard for me for example.
I've decided to start picturing some people as hearing stuff that doesn't fit within their scope and just... noping out and hiding back in their box because anything more than a one step equation just can't ever make sense in their brain.
I know this doesn't help, but makes me less angry at them.
- idk, makes me more angry at them
  
  It's hard not to be angry at stupidity once you recognize it as the source of most social problems. As a species, we are not as far from monkeys flinging poop as we like to believe.
- Ok but we’re not exactly asking the electorate to understand quantum physics. Is asking people to look at what TACO did last time too much to ask for?

There's not going to be a face left, in all of working class Murka.

Fucking idiots

Ohhhhhh. So sad. How about them Yankees?

LazerPig did a good video that covers this topic (and a lot of others; it's a long video). It is unfortunate that the American left got lazy and stopped supporting the poor and working class because they assumed those people would always vote left because the right was the party of the rich. It allowed a conman to promise them the world and be taken seriously.

Another minority blame article from racist democrats.
- That’s a nice emotional support cop out.
  It’s not racist to say “we told you this kind of shit would happen”. Some people just have trouble accepting the outcomes of their actions. To be a minority and vote for a white republican over a black-Indian democrat means ignoring numerous warnings from white liberals who were raised by racist republicans. Why tf should I have sympathy for people who voted for a DEI purge?
  
  Once again the only group of which the majority voted for Trump is white people.
- Beep
- Do Democrats throw minorities under the bus after being beaten by Trump twice? Sure, but some folks are genuinely trying to be Uncle Toms or Uncle Chans. They think playing respectability politics will save their skin should pogroms come. But here's the thing, racists only see skin colour and won't give a damn who had been "one of the good ones" or not. Bigots inherently lack understanding of nuance, so trying to be "one of the good ones" as an act of self-preservation is moronic at best.

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