Democratic Party Scrambles to fix image

And of course, they're going to take all the wrong lessons from this. They're going to use this as an excuse to move further right. What a fucking joke.
- If Democrats want to win, they better move toward the center because that's where most Americans are.
  
  That's not actually true. The very idea that Democrats are even left-of-center as it is, is completely disingenuous. It's a fiction created by the US media's intentional misrepresentation of policy. The majority of Americans want left-wing economic policies.
  They also don't care as much about culture war issues, as the media likes to make it appear. That is mostly a right-wing driven idea, while everyone left of that would simply rather focus on more practical concerns, without infringing on anyone's rights. But that doesn't mean they want politicians to abandon minority issues altogether. They just don't agree that it should be such a hot-button topic. Catering to the kinds of narratives pushed by right-wing media, is not what the majority of Americans want from their politicians.
  If Democrats want to start winning again, they need to start focusing on working-class issues. That means a hard shift to the left on economic policy. Trump and the Republicans have already figured this out, even if their rhetoric is total bullshit...they know what people want to hear, and they're saying it. What Democrats need to do, is walk that kind of talk for real. That means reaching out to the actual majority of voters...not just the ones with the most money...and deliver real policy changes that will improve regular people's lives.
  
  US election turnouts are low because neither party genuinely represents the people. The DNC ran rightward and lost in 2024, are you saying you want them to run further right, or further left? Which "center" are you talking about, the center of left and right, or center of DNC/GOP?
  
  What an idiotic takeaway.
  In fact, there’s fewer and fewer people in the center. Americans are abandoning the center in droves. And the Democratic Party, as liberals always do, is moving right to chase the fascist vote, because the left is a threat to Dems.
  
  I dont think its possible for them to be more in the center. You must mean more to the right.
  
  how did you even get on lemmy.ml? Which line from the manifesto did you copy and paste?
  
  Unfortunately they are moving right, and thus even further away from the center

Most takeaways focused on Democrats’ "faculty lounge" problem of being seen as too judgmental and beholden to their far-left members.
They’re going to “triangulate” even further right while blaming “elite” progressive liberals, who aren’t even the left. :surprised-pikachu:
📺 Why the Democratic Party CANNOT and WILL NOT be Reformed: Democrats would rather lose to a Republican, to a conservative, to a fascist, to Trump, than address the material conditions of the American people.
- Trump's threats of tariffs appealed to Americans to thought that jobs are going overseas. The Democratic policy should be to restrict tariffs to protecting strategic industries and in response to countries which put tariffs on American products.

Democrats: "Let's ignore left wing and independant voters. We'll chase after right wing voters instead."
Right wing voters vote entirely for Republicans. Left wing and independant voters feel abandoned and dont vote.
Democrats: "I don't understand how we could have lost. Let's continue to ignore left wing and independant voters. We'll have to double down on our efforts to get right wing voters.
Right wing voters continued to vote entirely for Republicans. Left wing and independant voters feel abandoned and dont vote.
Democrats: "What the hell happened? We lost yet again? I thought doubling down on the same strategy would have worked. Welp, we have no choice now but to triple down on the same strategy we keep losing with."
- No, Democrats has to attract voters with a centrist view because these are the largest block. Note that in Germany and Romania the centrist candidate won. Most people do not have extremist views.
  
  Assuming they are speaking from an American perspective: left is just normal liberal everywhere else, aka center to center right.
  
  Romanians don't vote in US elections. What's your actual evidence that appealing to 'centrists' would get the Democrats for swing state votes?
  
  WTF are you smoking? Most Latin american elections are more politically comparable to the US than Germany and Romania.

“We are losing support in vast swaths of the country, in rural America, in the Midwest, the places where I’m from," Rep. Jason Crow, D-Colo., told the outlet. "People that I grew up with who now support Donald Trump, who used to be Democrats. There’s no reason why we shouldn’t have the support of these folks, other than we have pushed, in so many ways, these people away from our party."
So they’re moving even further right. The article specifically points to their efforts to appeal to the toxic online male demographic.
- If Democrats want to win, they have to move further right. Jason Crow would make a better Democratic candidate than AOC. Not only because of his moderate views but because he was an US Army Ranger. In contrast, AOC was never in the US military. If she is the Democratic Presidential candidate, she would be running against J.D. Vance who was in the US Marines.
  
  ‘To beat Republicans, we must become Republicans!’
  I agree. The Dems should be more openly right. They should also stop suing leftist parties off the ballot, since they’re not going for those voters anyway.

Universal Healthcare: we can't do that.
90% tax rate on billionaires: we can't do that.
15% cut to the Pentagon budget: we can't do that.
Free education: we can't do that.
<anything slightly progressive>
: we can't do that.
Please donate to the Democratic Party.
- also democrats: why do we have a bad image? we need to fix our image! 🤪
  
  The Democratic Party is like the "The Picture of Dorian Gray"; putting on a public show of caring about people, while their portrait in the attic displays their putrid, festering true nature of billionaire donors and love of Wall Street. Forever searching for a glossy image, while rotting at the core.
- There is Obamacare. 90% tax rate is too high. It would discourage people from becoming rich. Defense spending support jobs. The US exports weapons to other countries. Education is free up to high school. After that would require high taxes.
  
  Obamacare leaves 26 million without healthcare and was always meant to enrich the health insurance companies.
  90% tax of the ultra wealthy has historical precedent.
  The death, destruction, and genocide of peoples outside the US being excused, because it creates jobs, is highly immoral besides being poor economics.
  US schools are largely funded by a system of local property taxes, leaving poor abd rural neighborhoods with underfunding.
  The topic was how the Democratic Party can attract voters. Doing exactly what they are doing now, as you suggest, is definitely not working. Imagine how out of touch a party has to be to lose to Donald Trump, twice.

Cast it into the fire! Destroy it! Libs: no

Maybe Democrat officials should start committing felonies, instigating insurrections, overturning elections, and raping people.
Since that's what American voters want.
- Democrat officials already do that, though they mostly limit the insurrections and overthrown elections to other countries.
- No, Trump won because his opposition was senile Biden who took too long to drop out. Hitler came to power because the democratic Weimar Republic could not control inflation, something which Biden also couldn't do. Hitler like Trump is a great speaker.
  
  Your frank admiration of both hitler and trump explains why you want the democratic party to move to the right.

Democrats dont need to do anything other then live up to their self proclaimed democracy advocacy and replace First-past-the-post voting in the blue states they control.
But they won't do that... will they?
- no cause they are just controlled opposition.
  their job is just to stall and not to undo fascist policy. electoral policy is meaningless when both of the only two parties are in on the game. and if electoral reform has any chance to be effective it won't be passed.
- Democrats can't just advocate democracy. Hitler came to power because the democratic Weimar Republic couldn't control inflation.

Trump third term just around the corner, and the 4th and the 5th and the 6th...
- Trump said that he would not seek a third term. If Democrats don't move toward the center, J.D. Vance will be the next President.
  
  Trump said
  Well, there's your problem. Trump says a lot of things, most not true.
  Democrats don’t move toward the center
  No, they need to move DOWN on the compass and actually align their values with the majority of the people, return the fucking 70%+ tax on the rich just like before. It was done before and it worked for the longest fucking time.
  https://bradfordtaxinstitute.com/Free_Resources/Federal-Income-Tax-Rates.aspx

Yes, the Democratic Party has to move away from the left, otherwise their views are out of touch with most Americans. Jason Crow might be a good Democratic Presidential candidate.
- This is not a reasonable take. The Democrats doubled-down hard on ~~conservatism~~ centrism in 2024 and all it did was help Trump broaden his coalition. Also here, in Missouri, Republicans not only won, they won against the backdrop of voters approving a $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, and voting down an abortion ban.
  Bernie and AOC are filling football stadiums in red states with their speeches. If the Dems want to win, they'll embrace economic populism and the left.
  Simply put, your opinion is wrong. But feel free to trot out the Cheneys again for all the good it'll do you.
  
  Biden had an open border policy and Harris foolishly said that she wouldn't have done anything differently than Biden despite polls showing that Americans wanted more border security. Harris would have been smart to do want Merz of Germany did; adopt a tough immigration policy in order to undermine the appeal of the AFD.
- If you think the Democratic party is "left," I'd like you to pass that doobie over here so I can get high, too.
  
  I don't even smoke anymore and I want it, too.
  
  Why do you think the Democratic Party is unpopular?
- The DNC is a far-right party, they need to move towards the left if they want to pick up votes.
  
  If the DNC is far right, what is the GOP?
- You are delusional
  
  It’s a burner astroturfing account. But the Dem bots are just like the party. Won’t learn anything, and will just post the same shit in two weeks with a different face.