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Appeals Court Says A Cop Can Violate Another Cop’s Rights By [Squints At Ruling] Shooting At The Other Cop

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It’s a fact: You can violate a government employee’s rights while being a government employee. Sure, it’s more tricky than violating rights as a government employee (when targetin…

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Appeals court says a cop can violate another cop's rights by shooting at the other cop

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This is crazy. Basically, 2 cops arrive and open the door and see the suspect with a gun at his side that was not raised or pointed toward either cop. Without any provocation from any party involved the rookie runs in the opposite direction firing over his shoulder without even looking where he was firing and hit the other cop. After that the suspect fired too.
What a friggin mess. When are they going to start training cops to handle situations like they have a brain and not just fire at everything threatening?
- And it was the cop whose rights were violated, not the guy who they were shooting at for no reason.
  
  No, they just gave that guy an attempted murder charge he has to fight off.
- Average police officer salary in the US is 60k.
  Do you know the average salary in the US? Also 60k.
  Wouldn’t you rather have an average job instead of an “I could be killed today” job? We all would.
  And so the only people that actually want to take average salary at the risk of death are people that are power-hungry and murder-hungry.
  You aren’t gonna get better training at this salary level. You aren’t going to get a system that pays Walmart Manager salary that also has some rigorous hiring and training process that teaches you how to make split second life or death decisions.
  This isn’t the secret service. It’s Walmart Managers with guns.
  
  “I could be killed today” job?
  Pizza delivery has a higher fatality rate than being a cop.
  
  What's the average salary for jobs that require no education?
  
  Suffolk county homicide police make $100k+, with unbelievable benefits. Guys later in their careers can get 200 days of paid time off per year, a very generous pension that cannot be taken away, and take home cars with gas paid for by the county.
  They are unbelievably bad at homicide investigations, mostly just following hunches and beating suspects.
  The problem isn't just the pay, they are rotten institutions that are beyond repair short of firing most of them at once.
  
  Delivering pizza is more dangerous than police work.
  
  Also they are dumb. Remember multiple us police orgs have iq caps. Not minimums. Caps.
- like they have a brain
  There's your problem.
- Shooting people is their job. They're an occupying army and we're the enemy
  
  An army is trained, cops are more like a government sponsored gang.

soooooo the only thing that can stop a bad cop with a gun… is a good cop with a gun?
- Cop 1: Let's try to get this guy using Good Cop/Bad Cop.
  Police enter interrogation room
  GC: Can I get you anything? Water? Some food?
  BC: Shoots perp in the head DIE MOTHERFUCKER!!!!
  GC: What the fuck?? I didn't even get to ask him any questions!
  BC: Gun still drawn I was trying to shoot YOU!!!
  GC: OH SHIT!!! Draws weapon and shoots the perp again FUCK!
  BC: FUCK!
  Police Captain: Enters room with stern look on his face Well, you just killed our only lead... But good work! From the looks of things, he was about to attempt to murder one of y'all and that would be super illegal!
  GC: Shoots Bad Cop dead NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! OFFICER BRIAN!!!!! Fires gun in the air 7 more times and kills 3 more officers on the floor above and maims an immigrant
  PC: Great work from a good cop! Let's grab lunch and celebrate your upcoming paid probationary period. There's an amazing resort you can take your partner's widow to, she won't be able to say no...
  Everyone laughs and high fives, fade to black while playing theme song written by Kid Rock
- Assuming the other cop is the good cop in this scenario, apparently not.

brb becoming a cop really quick

Where?
- Sixth Circuit - Eastern Great Lakes (Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee)
- Cleveland.

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