Plex staff leaving review on Play Store for Plex

Leaving this completely unrelated link to a better alternative here: https://jellyfin.org/

Leaving this for people to realize that there's a literal chapter's worth of book of security issues that haven't been fixed and seems to keep getting the can kicked down the road... for over 4 years now.
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415
I love Jellyfin... people need to implement it sensibly knowing the potential risks.
Edit: Ah yes! I MUST be a shill for saying "Implement it sensibly".
Here, let me "de-shill" myself.
You have several options to make Jellyfin serviceable to users outside of your literal LAN network.
setup a VPN. Pray you don't have a user on a device that doesn't have a VPN app that you can work with.
setup whitelisting on your server. Pray that IP addresses don't change.
setup fail2ban or crowdsec. Pray that you users don't piss off either by doing user things and getting locked out.
If anything above fails... you're likely on the hook for support. Hope you plan for that!
Obfuscate your paths (change /movies/title (year)/title.ext to something like /9ZHBrvNH4dKQDYFa2parH32qqSFpjsWTataVkjy4NqPxpVktT55PkEee5YSVRvUQ/movies/title (year)/title.ext). MD5 is now much harder to generate/guess... pray that there isn't some other vulnerability. Gotta go back and reconfigure and organize your shit. Oh and make sure that your docker mounts aren't crushing the path!
Am I still a Plex shill? BTW I run Jellyfin AND Plex. Literally side by side. Different uses for different cases because Jellyfin just can't compete with Plex for sharing with dumb-ass relatives.
- If your use case is to have a nice media sever at home and while traveling (via tailscale or similar) without exposing your private data, Jellyfin is great.
  If your use case is running a pirate tv service for other people, then you probably want something else.
- Me wondering how many security issues the completely proprietary Plex has that they won't tell us about.
- Without authentication; it's possible to randomly generate UUIDs and use them to retrieve media from a jellyfin server. That's about the only actually concerning issue on that list, and it's incredibly minor IMO.
  With authentication, users (ie, the people you have trusted to access your server) can potentially attack each other, by changing each others settings and viewing each other's watch history/favorites/etc.
  That's it. These issues aren't even worth talking about for 99.9% of jellyfin users.
  Should they be fixed? Sure, eventually. But these issues aren't cause to yell about how insecure jellyfin is in every single conversation, and to go trying to scare everyone off of hosting it publicly. Stop spreading FUD.
- Imagine downvoting "Be careful what you expose to the internet". I thought I'd got away from Reddit.
- This is why when people say that FOSS is more secure than closed source I always laugh. Those people seem to think that because it’s open source that not only has it been reviewed in depth by security experts who know every single possible vulnerability, but that they found every vulnerability, fixed them, put in PRs that were then approved by the creator, who then made a new release with those fixes……. every time a new potential vulnerability is discovered in the libraries etc that it’s using.
  Often it just leads to situations like this - known big vulnerabilities that are just never fixed.
- Honestly it's news to me but having read through those most of them are not an issue.
  setup a VPN. Pray you don't have a user on a device that doesn't have a VPN app that you can work with.
  Dafuck kind of a nitpick is this? In what world does OpenVPN not have an application for every device and OS combo out there fully supported? You tryna watch it on a VCR or smth?
- For people who can't or don't want to run a VPN app, Tailscale has the Funnel feature, which can... Funnel traffic into your Tailscale net.
  I've only used it for light stuff so not sure how well it will work for video.
  There are other Mesh VPN solutions out there - I've used Hamachi for close to 20 years on Windows, and it just works. There's a Linux client too, though I haven't worked with it in years.
  Alternatively, you can setup a Raspberry Pi just for the Tailscale/Wireguard VPN, for say at your parents/friends houses. Cheap, simple solution, and it'll handle DNS for the devices in the Tailscale mesh. This is something I'm doing for family/friends for unrelated/slightly related reasons (I'm reproducing the Backup to Friends feature that Crashplan used to have, so all of us can have multiple backups in our own "cloud") , but they'll get the side benefit of video, which won't get backed up, just duplicated everywhere.
- This past week I switched my server to Jellyfin and migrated all my users over to it after I just happened across a thread a month ago about Plex charging for remote streaming on the 29th of April.
  I never got an email from Plex about the change until April 29th... Scummy behaviour and I'm sure a lot of users and server owners bought their product in a panic as a result.
  So far Jellyfin works perfectly, all my users are on Rokus and the app works perfectly on there.
  Plex will only continue to get worse so I'm glad I made the jump.
- If anything above fails... you're likely on the hook for support. Hope you plan for that!
  It's a self-hosted service so... Duh?
- I am pretty positive you are a Plex shill too at this point...
  Keep popping up every time somebody speaks good of jellyfin...
  If there are really all those safety holes... Please explain why my publicly exposed instance never got hacked all these years.
Am I correct that there is no first party Jellyfin app for AppleTV?
- There is not, but Infuse is what the Jellyfin project officially recommends.
- There is Jellyfin, Swiftfin, and Infuse - the latter being 3rd party, but its my favourite so far in terms of stability :)
- If you use plex and jellyfin anyway, i suggest checking raspberry pi and kodi (libre elec) as an alternative. The pi4 is fine for hd at least, some use it for 4k but i have no exp with that. It works well and helps you get off the apple ecosphere.
- Yes. But there is a different option. There’s a list of clients on the website.
- Correct and what I've seen from Jellyfin / Emby are poor looking at best. While I could cobble together a system that works for me, there's no way anyone I share with would put up with it. Plex is PLEX for a reason.
- Correct, but there is an Emby app for every device.
It's plain deceitful to say jellyfin is simply better. It's simply less capable and less supported. I don't know if you're trying to deceive others or just yourself.
Here's the difference: With Plex it's trivial to invite other people to watch content from your server, they can view it on just about any device they have and it doesn't take any complicated networking setup to achieve. Likewise, just as you share your server, you can view content from other people's servers through the same interface. This is not a small feature it's the primary feature of Plex, it's what sets it apart from xbmc or any media center software.
I am totally on board with FOSS and I would absolutely use jellyfin in a second if it could do the things that Plex does. But it can't.
As a side note, this new interface for Plex on mobile is absolute shit, a big step backwards. If I had my way I'd still be using the Plex app from 2016.
The real problem with Plex is that it's a whole package, server and client. If it were instead a server and an open protocol, that anyone could make a client for, that would be vastly superior. I desperately want to use a more customizable 3rd party client with my Plex server.
- No it's not they have to create a Plex account if putting a URL in a window is to technical then creating an account is. Also jfa-go has made inviting so easy.
Jellyfin really needs to work on security and server discovery.
As it is right now you have to manually input the server URL unless it's on the same physical network, discovery won't even work with broadcasts across VLANs, or over the internet.
- I think the better answer would be to not expose Jellyfin to the internet.
  Although it would be cool if it integrated with something like p2panda or libp2p
- It doesn't even work right on the same net sometimes.
"Better"
Maybe if they'd fix their glaring security issues
- Or their convoluted settings. When there's a github project that does the HW encoding settings for you, you know it's intuitive...
https://hydrahd.sh/
Use free streaming sites.
Anything that you want to 'collect' can be downloaded and stored on an external hard drive and taken with you where you need to go.
Don't overcomplicate things just to fit in with losers on the internet.

Well this thread is an absolute shitshow.

Jellyfin is great, but if you refuse to let yourself understand that Plex's ease of setup for remote access is a point in its favour - especially when sharing with non-tech savvy people - then you're just as bad as the supposed "Plex shills".

Plex is well on the enshittification train, and I've always been a bit concerned about how private it may or may not be, but there's absolutely no way I'd have been able to share a Jellyfin instance with my grandfather, especially as his dementia got worse.

I tried jellyfin but it isn’t even close to as a good as plex
- Same as my experience
- The UI for Jellyfin is horrendous.
- Emby’s better than both, but jellyfin folks are probably going to crucify me for saying that.
I as an arch using turbonerd absolutely love jellyfin and how I can make it do what I want.
I run plex too, because the support I'd have to provide to family members when they need a password reset, or the jellyfin app doesn't work right on their new Hisense smart TV would be the death of me.
- This. Having the provide the support is what stops me from dropping plex entirely. I host jellyfin for the devices I control, and plex for my family and friends, all pointing to the same media.
- Not that bad. It's been about the same for Plex maybe less. Have had lots of Plex isn't working when their servers where down.
I have had very old and non techie people setup Jellyfin. Putting a URL in a box is not actually rocket science. I thought it would be way harder but they did it.
How so?
Yo dad, heres the login:
username: dad
password: Pa$$TheP0p
If it asks for a URL on the first screen input the following URL: https://jellyfin.domain.tld/
If you (or a relative) can't manage that, I'd be afraid to even let you handle a car or open a bank account.
Can't imagine you relative doesnt also have to create a plex account somewhere to then be invited to the plex share or input the URL to request access.
- For the record, I fucking hate Plex.
  But this is a disingenuous simplification of where the gap is.
  Me, my brother-in-law, and friend all share our libraries with the same elderly relatives.
  The GAP is that great grandma has to log in/out between servers to find content that may or may not be on an individual server. Plex lets you search/aggregate from all sources without having to jockey credentials and servers.
  It's not a giant ask. I heard a fucking absolutely brain-dead take that "that would require a centralized server which is against Jellyfins core ideology".
  So, I dunno. Maybe it isn't YOUR use case, but it's MY use case. Doesn't make me a shill. I'm still pissed as hell.
  But don't fucking pretend that there is feature parity when there isn't, and don't accuse me of being a shill just because Jellyfin literally doesn't support my use case. I WISH it did. I HATE PLEX.
- They won't even get to the login screen.
  All my relatives seem to have Hisense VIDAA TVs. There's a plex app on the store. Jellyfin would require an external device like a Chromecast or HTPC to use it.
  But now telling then it's $3/month to watch my pirated movies? No bueno.
  And on topic, I develop a commercial app and there is no way I am dropping a rating or review on it.
- Assuming you set it up for SSL, and you own and manage your own domain, and they're using a computer. Easy. So for the 10% it's cake.
  How's it look for the rest?
- Oh cool so you’re ok with opening ports on your server to the internet with no authentication. Good for you. Most of us with the technical knowledge of hosting a media server know better.

"Reviews" but there's only one.

This is probably some employee who genuinely likes the U.I.

An actual company-sponsored campaign would NOT use names from actual employees.

Corporations drill it deep into your head that you do not positively promote your own products or negatively review competitor products without both making it clear that you (1) work for $Corp; and (2) are sharing your own, personal opinion.
Giving the benefit of the doubt to Plex, they suck at training employees about social media policies.
- Corporations drill it deep into your head that _you do not positively promote your own products or negatively review competitor products
  This isn't a general or global thing. I have yet to be told above in any place I've worked, and one place even asked people to write fake reviews on Trustpilot/job sites
- Are we even sure it's the same person?
- "Plex respects their employees autonomy" wow really??
  Mobile app reviews are worthless anyway.

Dude just could have said something like,"Hey, I'm a developer of Plex and have really enjoyed my experience using it. Let me know if you'd like to see something added/fixed."

This would've been the best response. Leaving 5 star review on your company's product + signalling transparency and good communication with costumers? One stone two birds.

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😂 exactly

Is it fake or just a review by an employee that uses plex?

Yeah, I`m all for roasting Plex but nothing about that review is inappropriate or prima facie untruthful.
- It's inappropriate because you're not allowed to review your own companies software, let alone do so without declaring as such.
- The update makes the download feature objectively worse. So, that was a stretch to praise both.

This review would have had a lot more credibility if he at least disclosed his affiliation with Plex. Instead, he posed as some unbiased rando while advertising Plex Pass. This is textbook gaslighting.

If you look on Plex's review page in the Play Store, it's receiving overwhelming amounts of negative reviews over the new UI changes, reliability/performance problems, and how the Lifetime Plex Pass purchase is a lifetime of regrets as they watch Plex getting worse every month by enshittifying itself.

If Plex is resorting to leaving fake reviews to save face, then this company is in deeper trouble than I thought.

This is textbook gaslighting.
Well if I spent 5 minutes instead of 0.5 minutes I might be able to find an actual text book but I think APA Dictionary of Psychology: "gaslight" is a pretty good definition:
to manipulate another person into doubting their perceptions, experiences, or understanding of events.
And it provides an example, from the original source of the term:
a wife is nearly driven to insanity by the deceptions of her husband
It is tres shitty to minimize actual abusive behavior by applying a term associated with intimate partner violence it to this minor thing which is someone posting a comment on some software he works at using an account which goes to zero effort to obfuscate that.
In penance I decree you should watch the movie https://archive.org/details/gaslight-1944 and tell me if it's any good, I haven't seen it yet.
- Damn skippy. Gaslighting and basic ass lying are different things. But hey, it's trendy right now. Next, we'll find out how he's a malignant narcissist.
  Dude posted a shill review. It's called shilling. It's a form of lying for profit. He likely did it to advance his career or because he was afraid not to. His employer likely encouraged the action without directly ordering it.
- This is the type of pedantry that annoys me and yet I admire. Bravo, good fellow, I salute you
- Its literally a false review, designed to counter the multiple negative real reviews that have been left recently. Its a false narrative designed to induce the reader into doubting the ture narrative of the other genuine reviews, or possibly even influence a potential reviewer by coloring their actual experience with the app. Definitely fits the definition you posted, even if its inconsistent with the example they gave.

I don't count this as fake. He most certainly uses the software and the features he described are actually features under plex pass. And I no doubt believe he enjoys it. No lies here. My experience with plex pass is the same lol.

I think the point being made is that company staff shouldn't be leaving five-star reviews on products they, themselves, work on. Whether they do it because they love the product, or a company suit told them to. Personally, I think it's fine to try and convince people to use your/your company's software, but giving yourself a five-star review to do so is downright pathetic.
- Mostly without being transparent, and stating they work for the company.
- I'm fully okay with them doing so, but they have to disclose what they're doing so. Like the fact that the review didn't disclose that they were an employee is very sketchy to me.
They seriously enshitified the download feature. You used to be able to set it to download X number of unplayed episodes. Then it would manage downloading fresh content for you as you watched stuff. Now you have to manually download each and every episode yourself. This was literally the killer feature Plex had over Jellyfin for me.
- Oh, ffs, really? That's kind of the reason for a download feature.
  Pricks.
- I think they're getting pressure re the pirating aspect. I could imagine the bigger they get the bigger the magnifying glass will be held up to them. They're probably doing some fancy footwork to be able to remain in production / avoid lawsuits and similar pressure.
Yeah fair enough, and I do agree. I only reused the title of the forum post where this was originally posted. Have changed the title up now.

From the forum post:

Just because he works at Plex doesn’t necessarily make his review fake.

Yikes the copium here. Reviews are meant for users of the app, this is so incredibly biased and in bad taste. I have had my shittiest companies ask us to leave positive reviews on Glassdoor. The shittiest ones.

Maybe their big redesign that no one asked for isn't doing well, and this is a self preservation thing, to get more people to download it. Maybe CEO asked them to. Maybe they're just over eager. All are excuses and not valid reasons to give a rating on your own company's product

While I don’t think it’s a great look, employees can be customers/users too. I can’t imagine a Plex employee wouldn’t actually use Plex either. They should have disclosed that they’re an employee in the review.
- Yes, but since he is working on the product itself, it's heavily biased.
  He can use the app without leaving a review.
The download functionality also has been broken for a while and not working for lots of users, even LTT made a video about it, so even if we give the benefit of the doubt that he is merely doing a "works on my machine" thing it's not a great look
- Somewhat related, I recall Michael Bell talking about his experience with Soul Reaver, shortly after release. The voice of Raziel couldn't get past the jump part of the tutorial and just gave up
I bet someone got it in their head that slow reviews were the reason the company wasn’t meeting a goal, and they asked everyone to contribute.

In addition: Sharing this post form r/selfhosted which also describes the recent Plex situation lately, worth a read.

What do ya know, yet another day of being happy I never invested in Plex
Yet again Plex is an amazing example of how people become more angry because they give things away for free.
If everything required a Plex pass less people would be angry.
Just use want you want.
- I personally don't see a reason to use Plex over Jellyfin. Apparently some people agree since Jellyfin made bank from donations.
- A lot of the angst about the server requirements for Plex pass really have to stretch the truth to become a victim. It only affects you if you were using it for free, in which case 🤷, it was free, it's hard to feel bad about it.
  The only thing I'm disappointed in is the free mobile streaming comes at the same time they released the new broken app. When they get around to fixing the app I'll be able to tell my friends they can now use the app. The server owner paying once is much better than every person paying for the app.

And of course the twats locked the thread.

Is the user from Playstore the real Rui Lebre? I mean, I can create on any platform users with real people names, but how can people know that it is the real person that is creating the comment, not just an imposter?

Don't know for sure ofc, but the co-founder has commented in the thread without addressing the issue. They've also closed the thread without addressing all together which also seems weird. Surely if it wasn't him they would have said so?

Daily reminder, Plex fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software.

I'm not a fan of Plex and switched to Jellyfin very early on, but I'm a bit confused by the outrage here. He used his real name to report on a UX he built. I see FOSS developers do this all the time, and it seems pretty innocuous.

I can imagine if he generated thousands of anonymous accounts and did the same it'd be very bad, but an author commenting on his own work using his full real name doesn't seem like a conspiracy plot

It isn't terrible but it isn't great
It would've been better if he gave a disclaimer

I fucking hate how I can't listen to my music libraries in the main app now. I have a separate profile for other people in the house and I can't switch profiles with plexamp.

I work at a brewery. Am I not allowed to tell people I like the beer I brew? I'm doing this very wrong I guess my brewery has been enshittified by me. Bummer

If you leave your brewery a public review pretending to just be another customer, yeah thats pretty shitty. You kniw what you're doing, don't play games.
- You kniw what you’re doing
  Exactly. They know what they're doing and we shouldn't pretend that they don't.
  Scumbags are all around us, hiding in plain sight.
you know full well its not a matter of liking the product you're affiliated with, but an undisclosed conflict of interest in an environment where people have a reasonable expectation of transparent, non-biased testimonials from normal end users, not shilling from paid employees.
Am I not allowed to tell people I like the beer I brew?
That's not really what he's doing though. It would be like if you pretended to be a customer and drink your own beer in front of actual customers and were like "WOW! This beer is super good! The guy who made it has a really big dick!"
It's just shitty to do because it's sheistery as fuck.
Plex employees totally have the right to review Plex in the store. But they should be expected to advertise that they work for Plex...because he didn't the review loses any credibility that it had previously.
I was going to say if he writes an app and doesn't like it, something's wrong there
- Perhaps. Either way, he's biased, and reviews should be unbiased.
You can tell people whatever you want and they can criticize you accordingly.
If you don't disclose your affiliation with a company that you're shilling, rational people will criticize you for being biased and self-serving.
If you want to avoid this completely rational, acceptable, and expected criticism, then you should reveal any conflicts of interest before or during your promotion of the business.
This shouldn't need to be spelled out for you, but this generation has been conditioned to be proud of ignorance and defending abuse.
Are you allowed to tell people that you dislike your beer, as a representative of the brewery?
People really abuse that new and very useful word. It diminishes the usefulness.
- I saw someone describe rental housing as enshittified.
  No honey, it's just shitty.
- It's very nearly a synonym for value extraction. I guess specifically it refers to the consequences of value extraction on the web, but really I think Doctorow's whole goal with that campaign was to make people aware of how awful venture capital and value extraction really are for us. I'm less concerned with preserving a canonical definition of enshittification as I am getting people aware of the consequences of capitalist financialization. As a well-published author himself, I'm sure Doctorow is well prepared for figurative death of the author :P

lol, did he have the AI bros in marketing write it too? If they’re gonna do this they could at least write their own bullshit…

Marketing probably asked everyone to write a review on their internal Slack or something.

Community Manager: After we changed the terms of our public client to force everyone to pay for what used to be a free service, our ratings have taken a hit. If we don't get back to at least 4.0, Google won't feature us for free advertising. Everyone, go and leave a 5-star review.

Developers: but there are mill....

Community Manager: STOP, go and review now. scoot!

Never underestimate the sycophantic idiocy of individual tech workers. One developer does not make a corporate policy. I’m not defending Plex though, if I used them I’d switch away.

There is this risk but it still reflects poorly on Plex

Never thought I’d see the hate for plex on here get to this level.

Every update they've made for just about the past decade has made the product worse for the original users who just want to stream their own media. This last UI update killed my favorite download feature. They deserve the hate they're getting.
That's what happens when you piss off a loyal fan base
it's almost as if a small group of people are desperately trying to make people change to jellyfin.
6 months ago I was seriously looking at jellyfin as a Plex alternative. Now? nah, I'm good.
I'll take a corporate shitheel company over a roach infested toxic community any day.
the more they push the less I want anything to do with jellyfin, and the leaders at jellyfin should be made aware of what their community members are doing.
- A large group of people got pissed off at all the enshitification of Plex. It isn't a personal attack and you are welcome to keep using Plex. However, it is evident that many are looking towards Jellyfin as a better alternative.
- I’ll take a corporate shitheel company over a roach infested toxic community any day.
  What an asinine fucking take. Even if Plex were better than Jellyfin in every single way (it isn't), this take would still be asinine. I mean, wtf dude. You can just not care about the community and everything keeps working. A "shitheel" company will do everything to make your experience suck.

This was a nice reminder to leave some bad reviews on the App Store

Yeah this "revamp" is just bad. I dislike it a lot. I'm seriously debating on rolling it back... but I don't tend to watch media on my phone and the new update hasn't hit any of my TVs yet.
- I rolled back. It was fairly easy and now the downloads work again.
- It literally crashes the app for me every time I go to downloads. I had to revert to the previous version

Counterpoint: when I worked at Panda Express, I used to leave fake reviews on our store about how helpful and professional pp_boy_ was because I wanted a raise. Never did it on any accounts attached to my name though.

Jellyfin works fine. No point paying for Plex.

Just ignore the security problems with remote streaming.
- It lives on an isolated VLAN with traffic routed through a VPN service on a dedicated NAS for movies. If someone gets into it, they’ll get no personal info but my movies.

It could. But the co-founder and staff have replied on the thread without addressing it being false. Feel like they would have called it out being fake if it truly was.

Today i finalized my switch over to Jellyfin. I was a lifetime member but i'm tired of letting them scrape my data.

I have been really happy with hosting my stuff via Emby even with my friend's library on Plex. I have found the media recognition and identification system in Emby to be much better/easier to use.

While the music player in Emby is nowhere near as good as plexamp. I mostly store a local copy of my music on my phone anyways so it is not really an issue. I am going to start playing with navidrome when I get time but a one directional sync with syncthing fromy server to my phone would also work for my needs.

The Emby app on android tv is decent but not flashy and does not have streaming content by default, it is fully functional as a media player for library files.

do you know for a fact that is him and not just someone using his name? either way this is fairly harmless

it’s a single review, who cares?

Is it?
Have you performed the analysis on Plex reviews and know exactly how many 5 star reviews were posted by employees?
Because I don't, and that's a problem, as well as a Google ToS violation.
I hope their app gets dropped from the store, at least long enough for them to have to go groveling to Google to get in reinstated, especially since Google likes to drop OSS devs for undisclosed reasons, and make them jump through hoops to get back on.

I ditched Plex for Jellyfin a while ago and am not a fan of Plex, but this is the silliest thing to complain about. First of all, just because they work for Plex doesn't automatically make it a fake review. Certainly wouldn't call it an unbiased one, but that doesn't mean the review is fake.

It would've been fine with a disclaimer
It's biased and problematic because they don't state they work for Plex.
Thing is, had they been transparent about it, at least we could give them credit for acknowledging that up front. Now we have to wonder how many reviews are from employees.

Conflict of intrest

Why all the hate for Plex?

- I find it interesting how the remaining Plex fan base gets extremely pissed off when you criticize Plex. Saying how much you dislike a product doesn't mean that you are attacking the product users.
- Ohh, ok. That's not good, and those are some good points. I actually thought Plex was a nice, open source, project and bought a Lifepass 🙈
  It runs very smooth, and I really like the plexamp app for iphone. Does Jellyfin run as smooth, and have a music stream app?

I used plex like a decade ago is it still the only decent option for gile share streaming?

Never used plex. Finally got around to installing Jellyfin. Very happy with it.
There is Jellyfin and also a paid fork of Jellyfin, forgot what it's called, but Jellyfin is good enough imo
- Jellyfin is a fork of emby. I'm not sure the state of it now but when I chose jellyfin it had most of the emby paid features and from a quick glance the UI hasn't improved much while jellyfin has gotten a lot better.

This reminds me to go leave a review on their refresh of the app. I just got off a plane and Plex wouldn't load once I lost service for me or my wife to watch our downloaded media.

That plex thread is a shitshow

subtitles have completely stopped working for me :/

i mean im sure they use it too and nothing they said was anything but their personal opinion so i don't think it's that big a deal

Hence why you should never trust proprietary software (or even hardware if you wish)

edit: replied in the wrong spot. moved elsewhere in the thread.

Plex has always been shilled hard for useful idiots with more money than sense.

Like, free streaming services are right there. Why overcomplicate things just so you can fit in with other losers on the internet?

I swear, so many of you are leaning on each other without realizing none of you have a clue what's going on.

It's relatively inexpensive and makes life much easier for people who are not tech savvy. Your position is that of an incredibly egoistic person that never had to help an older relative or dealt with an adult who doesn't have time for random bs during an hour or so of downtime most people get in a day.
If spending hours trying to figure out which "free" streaming service had not gotten shot down today and magically has the content you want is worth less to you than a one time payment of a few bucks to plex, then you really don't value your time.

Do you hate Plex so much that you're going out of your way to invent fake reasons to try to make others hate it even more?