8mo ago

Jagmeet Singh resigning as NDP leader after losing his seat, his party routed

nationalpost.com Jagmeet Singh resigning as NDP leader after losing his seat, his party routed

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh suffered a resounding defeat on election night, losing his own seat, his party reduced to a single-digit seat count.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh suffered a resounding defeat on election night, losing his own seat, his party reduced to a single-digit seat count.

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The National Post is American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.
- I'm sorry, wasn't aware.
  I usually post CBC, but they break metadata embedding on Lemmy.
  
  Here friend! Some of the Non Canadian owned new outlets and the Canadian owned when reading getting your information.

first past the post will kill you as easily as it killed Estats Unis
- Estats Unis
  États-Unis, my dude.
  
  i think they wrote it in catalan, not french
  
  this is what you argue about?

Finally.
- I feel sad for the guy because he really did care and worked hard. He was a good dude.
  
  He had his time and he did delivered some good things, but it's defintely time for new ideas and more charismatic leaders. He was the most unpopular leader in this election cycle.
  
  That’s not enough in politics, sadly.
  Politics is war by other means. It’s every bit as complex and strategic, it’s just not as obvious.
  The NDP has been lost in the wilderness as a party for a long time. They’ve spent far too much energy and credibility complaining about vote-splitting and electoral reform. They haven’t done the serious work to present themselves as a credible alternative to the Liberals, the way Jack Layton did.
  
  Yeah but he destroyed the NDP party
- While I agree that change is necessary, I feel like NDP as a whole needs to change strategy. It's like every single promise they make is about throwing shade on another party, or saying they will fix something liberals did, but rarely any actual constructive or original ideas. They need to come up with their own identity instead of basing it on the opposite of another.
  
  rarely any actual constructive or original ideas
  My mom's getting some dental work, thanks to his original idea.
  They need to come up with their own identity
  They HAVE an identity: small-biz heroes, middle-class champions, lift-all-boats tide. This has been their identity for decades.
  instead of basing it on the opposite of another.
  You confusing the orange with the blue?
  
  That you think this means the NDP is not getting their message out.
  
  I mostly agree with agenda of the NDP and also with Singh but I also noticed that he started bashing the liberals more than usual in the last couple of month. I live in Manitoba and hear often official ads from the Conservative party in radio about things they blame on Trudeau. In my opinion this needs to stop, this is not professional.

I got to be honest. The NDP are like some anime hero in this election sacrificing it all so the main protagonist can beat the villian
- -Mass immigration and loosening regulation so temporary students can work 40 hours a week when we finally had wage pressure, as people asked for simple cost of living adjustments after massive asset price inflation and corporate revenue.
  -Allowing unions to be forced back to work, eliminating all bargaining for wages.
  -Ignoring the cost of living increases from QE and unfunded stimulus, by not taxing the rich a dime to pay for any of it.
  Am I wrong in any of this, I'd love a carefully thought out retort that isn't Cons bad.
  
  I don't know if I'll say you're wrong but I will say that that feels like half a comment and you might have forgotten to add the part where you weave it all together. Or make it relate to the previous comments.
  
  Wow NDP is getting closer to the Liberals, might as well vote Liberal.
  Why do they keep shifting center?!!?

On Jan 1st, the 3 major canada-wide parties were:
Liberal, headed by Justin Trudeau out of Papineau
Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre out of Carleton
NDP headed by Jagmeet Singh out of Burnaby South
On May 1st the 3 major parties will be:
Liberal, headed by Mark Carney out of Nepean
Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre(?) out of ?
NDP headed by ? out of ?
- NDP aren't even a major party anymore with 7 seats, sadly
  
  They're not an "official party", but they still got 6% of the vote. But, because of FPTP they only got 2% of the seats. Bloc Quebecois got 6.4% of the vote and 6.7% of the seats. There are still a lot of people out there who would want to vote NDP, but who voted Liberal to achieve "anybody but Conservative". The plan worked, but I think they'd like some electoral reform.
  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o
- Pierre Poilievre likely to stay as party leader since he's very popular with the base. Unless someone like Doug Ford decides to fight him for the position.
  
  Pierre is very not popular - when Trudeau quit he had a higher approval rating than Pierre. People this time were voting for the party, not for Pierre.
- Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, other.
  
  That's why I carefully worded it "canada-wide parties". If it were just big parties by vote, you'd definitely be right. In fact, Bloc is the only big party that came through the last few months with their leader intact.
  
  Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, other.
  Canada, Separatist, Separatist, Canada?

I loved him, but he tossed Jessica Wetz under the bus and the next day, he was posting thirst traps on TikTok.

Thanks for finally doing the right thing, Jagmeet! It only took your complete and utter defeat and losing official party status... but I guess it's better late than never. (Please elect a socialist leader now.)

While I was not a huge fan of Jagmeet, I don't think he was a bad leader. The Federal NDP had a tough go at this election as I am sure many people who would traditionally vote NDP voted to keep conservatives out of power and marked the Red Box. I certainly did.
- It's really unfortunate that the largest party chooses PM instead of being able to just form a coalition of small parties, if I understand it correctly? Also super unfortunate that the PM then recommends Senators with lifetime appointments up to age 75.
  It's actually kind of miraculous that Canada has been so much more progressive than the USA with that kind of system.
- They were losing popularity before the elections were called though. The losses are because of the circle around the flag effect, but their unpopularity is not.
  
  I don't disagree. They missed a huge opportunity to be the opposition people turned to in this instance when people didn't want either of the big two.
- I voted NDP, for premiere, and MP. My riding voted for conservative for both.

Not surprised he is stepping down. A very tough night.

Good bye Jagmeet. Even though I never liked you as leader of NDP, your policies were a welcome change in an atrophied left ecosystem. Thank you.

Taking bets on how long universal healthcare lasts now that Liberals can wave "It's us or fascism/annexation" forever.
- What makes you think the liberals want to end universal health care?
  
  Yeah, someone's confusing the parties goals here
- You do realize the Liberals have a minority that the few NDP seats can still keep in power? The hammer the NDP wield right now is vastly disproportionate to the very small number of seats they hold.
  
  I was hoping the ndp couldn't help alone, and the liberals would need to work with the BQ, but my hopes were dashed.

Is this guy the one who said people are stupid?
- You're thinking of Rajneesh, a dead cult leader

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