Carney's Liberal party wins Canadian election and completes a stunning turnaround fueled by Trump

Agreed. Incumbents always do worse in the next election. Makes me shudder to think what the result of the next election is going to be. Trudeau's latest term was really bad and they got no punishment for it whatsoever thanks to the gift from the south. And Canada seems to be moving further and further away from proportional representation. So who will voters swing to next election?

Great result for today's Canadians. Terrifying result for future Canadians.

Quite true. The reason for celebration is that had the conservatives won they were planning to defund our public broadcaster right off the bat. We need all kinds of reforms but having the CBC around to report on them will be quite important.

It's after a full decade of Liberal rule. Do you know how hard it is to win after that long being blamed for everyone's problems? This is huge.

Look, we've had the liberals for ten years now. Theyve won 4 elections at this point. It's amazing they won anything at all this time.

What do you mean "narrowly"? It's a clean victory and the trumpist conservative leader lost his own riding.

Yet. Stay vigilant

At the end of the day it all comes down to the role of the dice.

If you're serious, start looking for companies hiring up here. As I understand it's not easy, even for economic class immigrants, but I work in tech and I work with many immigrants (albeit not usually from the US, but it's a different world now). Mind you - please look carefully into the financial impacts as it is a change from the US. Salaries are lower and taxes generally higher, which may or may not be offset in your context in other ways (healthcare a big one, income tax deductions, etc.) But many people, myself included, prefer Canada regardless of the reduced compensation. It's not always about money.

Asylum, not yet. There's still a treaty on the books recognising America as equivalently safe. Presumably it will get rolled back soon.

If you're serious, I can send you to the points quiz for economic immigrants.

rooting for you aussies. Love and strength from Germany <3

Let’s go mates. Kick them bootlicker asses.

thankfully our 2 party preferred polls look almost the identical to canadas!

Luckily we have preferential and compulsory voting.

Atm we got it, this is the magic sweet spot where we want to be

172 seats exactly with lib+ndp+green

and conservatives can't even threaten a vote of non confidence with bloc's help. (1 vote short)

But they could trigger it with that 1 green seat's help, which means liberals have to stay on the good side of that 1 green seat XD

If only they would embrace nuclear!

Currently it seems like there is a highly improbable but mathematically possible outcome where the Conservatives and Bloc Québécois form a government. Canada gets to be the 51st state and Quebec gets to be the 52nd state. 💀

Let's get that last seat! edit: typos

Little PP got his ass kicked. I love it !

I don't know how it works there. Was Pierre running in two races?

Would there have a special election for this seat if he had won both?

What are the odds he loses support and goes quiet after losing both, especially his backup incumbent election? (Knowing hard losses used to discourage people, but not always now)

yes, it is so relieving that this right wing populist trend seems to be failing in our closest neighbor. Hopefully the failure of this administration will wake a lot more places up, and create a greater push back against this trend to the far right.

Daddy hasn't told them what to say yet and these kinds of outlets don't know how to think for themselves anymore. And at this point it's pretty much all news outlets based out of the US don't know what to say without him.

You’d have to be trying hard to forget your media literacy to think that was spin.

It’s a device that’s saying the Trump issue is the major one in the election. Trump, and how voters feel about him, is what is driving one party or the other to victory.

Is just treat any US and UK news outlet as the Onion these days.

They are 100% going to say our election was rigged, and our idiots are going to believe them.

I'll be a little surprised if he addresses it more than a passing comment - the US conservative population doesn't actually give a shit about canada (unless they're told to be mad about it for some specific scapegoaty reason, but they'll just forget. Like they've all forgotten about the lumber issues, or eggs, or how 'canada is killing the US garment industry' that one was cute...). At this point he's got enough other things to distract them with, so why waste his very limited attention span on something he's declared a solved issue?

There should be a bingo sheet.

but if I’m not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.

No one who has any political awareness would give the liberals credit for that. That was the NDP's contribution.

"if I'm not mistaken"

That's how the NDP loses, even someone who seems to have a minimum of interest in politics isn't sure that it was the NDP that got us that. Yes, they forced Trudeau's hand on that question.

Jagmeet was getting wiped out regardless. The fatigue that existed for Trudeau was also present for Singh and Pollievre.

Bro I need gaslighting lessons from PP; how is he losing his riding, losing an election he has polled 20+ points in the lead in for almost two years, and yet gives a speech where he not only says he will stay on as leader, but makes it seem like losing the election was his desired outcome??

Because he is a weasel... he was in opposition for almost 3 years against Trudeau when Trudeau was toxic and PP was unable to make ONE meager alliance with nobody. We have Jagmeet to thanks because, like me, he could not stomach a PP majority

Of course it will .... hahahahaha

It was not in the platform. I'll settle for staying sovereign, maybe we can clean up FPTP later.

This is why I left Canada.

I can but they won't let my friends in. I didn't realize until I looked into it but national borders are actually quite rigid

No one can afford to move to Canada. Our housing prices are stupid.

Having a criminal history would likely make him ineligible.

There's no outright rule against it but several people have been removed from the order for committing crimes.

Felons aren't allowed in Canada

Top Poilievre defense he did use a lot of Trump's talking points and techniques. Branding himself as Trump light.

Long as you're voting against fascists man

I don't know that 'Conservative' exists anymore. I'm American, but I think these comments work everywhere else, as Authoritarianism rises.

Growing up, I believed that liberal/conservative was just a difference in approach, but not a difference in end-goal. Both 'teams' wanted the country to prosper. In my 40s, now, I clearly see that we have different goals: Liberals want everyone to be prosperous, healthy, fulfilled. Conservatives value the prosperity only of those on top.

You may identify as conservative, little 'c', respect tradition and be careful with spending, etc; but I want you to closely evaluate the actions of people using that label across the globe. A vote for a conservative or right-wing candidate is a vote for the top 1% or less of the population of the planet. They may align with you on some topics, such as religion, abortion, fiscal policies, regulations, and more; but that is a ploy and they are absolutely willing to throw you away as soon as they have your vote and will cut everything you depend on once in power in order to pad their own pockets.

There are certainly perverse incentives and systemic issues that make even liberal politicians support bad policies, but the voter bloc that is 'liberal' wants to make things better for everyone. The conservative politicians, at least in the US where I'm paying attention, seem to be hell-bent on making things worse instead.

This has less to do with Trump's actions, and more to do with how the convervatives behaved...

Explain how they gained more seats then.

The conservatives barely lost because the progressives and the BQ voters cut their legs off to hoist up the liberals.

Genuine question, what initially led you to wanting to vote conservative and what could they have run on for you to have stuck with then?

Please, he's Pound-Stretcher Trump. Not even Poundland would stock him.

We almost went far right too. Our conservatives aren't nazis but if they won this one we would be following Germany's footsteps

Also Germany is likely more queer friendly than Canada lol

Because the "left liberals" in Germany are also Nazis arguing that Israel is allowed to kill civilians in Gaza.

I'm curious, what attracted you to the Conservatives prior to the Maple-MAGA movement?

Conservatives made significant inroads, lots of people in Ontario and Atlantic Canada that heard and liked the anti-woke messaging. I don't know how to bring these people around, and am frightened that there are so many of them. Over 40% of the popular vote.

I don't know why, it's a perfectly cromulent word.

trumpulence

Why 😐?

Congratulations on learning a new word.

Mark Carnage

NDP leader already announced he's stepping down and I feel like the conservative has to as well.

This is my fear as well. Neoliberal policies are exactly what have made the extreme right so strong and powerful over the past decades. When people have no means to get forward in life, they resort to despotism, which is exactly why the poorest parts of the USA are so strongly in favor of Trump, while the wealthier parts are still clinging onto the liberal train.

Like I said in other posts, this is a good day for the current term, but if the Liberals aren't serious about making life better for real Canadians (not the super-wealthy ones), there's a good chance that this is only exacerbating an inevitable collapse.

In one of the next election the fascists take over Canada. They never learn.

At least we stopped Maple MAGA from taking over now... we learned this one trick from the Americans

Mark "100 million by 2100" Carney

that's in to a lot of conservative ideas

Fiscal conservative ideas, maybe.

Socially he's relatively liberal. Maybe not quite as much as Trudeau, but nowhere near what the CPC has become.

Trump didnt cause the Conservatives to lose, they did that themselves with how they acted in spite of how Conservatives across the world were acting... and the fact that most of their platform revolved around just screaming "we're not the liberals, we're not trudeau"

they acted with an extreme amount of entitlement. that because the liberals had ruined the country for 10 years, it was now their turn. couple that with a lot of snide, childish shitposting, and an absolute bombardment of anti-trudeau ads and rhetoric, they basically bullied trudeau out of office, and once he was gone, they didnt have a platform anymore.

then enter the Trump , Trade war, and threats of Invasion shit. The conservatives basically waffled during this foreign policy crisis that pissed a lot of people off. the reality had changed and a lot of people felt like bringing a party that was polluted with the far right, was now no longer tenable.

I'm totally okay with taking a shot on someone who is actually educated and respected as opposed to a career politician.

Many Western nations are turning to political outsiders out of frustration with the status quo. Conservatives and the far right have more effectively tapped into that underlying desire and capitalized on it.

Here we have an outsider who isn't a dog whistling regressive populist. That's a huge win for Canada in my book.