Carney's Liberal party wins Canadian election and completes a stunning turnaround fueled by Trump
Carney's Liberal party wins Canadian election and completes a stunning turnaround fueled by Trump
Really proud of Canada not going down the same path my dumb ass country did
It wasn't by a large margin.. Canadians are turning fascist just like a lot of other countries.
Yes, we narrowly avoided going down the Trump route this time, but I don't find this picture particularly encouraging (NDP, Green and BQ are the three most progressive parties):
Source: National Post
It's not straightforward to understand that, since this is a chart of seats not votes, and you can get weird effects with first-past-the-post and strategic voting, but it certainly looks like the electorate is moving rightwards at the expense of progressives.
Conservatives still winning over 40% of all votes total. Definitely a very bad sign.
I’m hoping the margin was tight because most people, even the ones who voted liberal, held their nose as they did it. We don’t like a party being in charge for this long, but the alternative is worse and worse every election. Pierre poilievre was however the worst and most dickish conservative I’ve seen in a while, so I hate how close this was.
That is the sad thing.
Hopefully Australia follows suit, as we have our own Temu Trump in opposition coming into our election.
Narrowly.
Are you guys not horrified of what’s happening south? If you interpret this as a win and go on, your country is going to be mega conservative in like a decade.
No, this is an existential crisis, and you need to shut off the propaganda machines before it’s too late.
Agreed. Incumbents always do worse in the next election. Makes me shudder to think what the result of the next election is going to be. Trudeau's latest term was really bad and they got no punishment for it whatsoever thanks to the gift from the south. And Canada seems to be moving further and further away from proportional representation. So who will voters swing to next election?
Great result for today's Canadians. Terrifying result for future Canadians.
I would point out though that a CPC win would have been a terrifying result for future AND current Canadians. So I guess that's a small win?
Quite true. The reason for celebration is that had the conservatives won they were planning to defund our public broadcaster right off the bat. We need all kinds of reforms but having the CBC around to report on them will be quite important.
What do you mean "narrowly"? It's a clean victory and the trumpist conservative leader lost his own riding.
Look, we've had the liberals for ten years now. Theyve won 4 elections at this point. It's amazing they won anything at all this time.
It's after a full decade of Liberal rule. Do you know how hard it is to win after that long being blamed for everyone's problems? THis is huge.
lol suck it conservaturds.
thank you, canada, for not following america's path to ruin.
Yet. Stay vigilant
Ironically, Trudeau hanging around for a long as he did may have saved Canada. If this election had happened in the middle of last year, the Conservatives would have probably won and combined with Trump, it would have been a disaster. Possibly the smartest/luckiest thing he has ever done.
At the end of the day it all comes down to the role of the dice.
in this case it was the early voter turnout and the special ballots that really lifted it. And we cannot ever forget Bloc. They did a huge push on this one. No one hates Trump quite as much as Quebecois and they showed it 20 fold. Quite a ride watching all this. Especially what with the cyber attacks on the PM during this short campaign was relentless as was the propaganda radios. It honestly should be a case study on how out of control the propaganda was getting on X and facebook.
Australian chiming in here and we have an election in a few days time.
The current Opposition Leader is running on a platform of Trump Wannabee.
I really really hope our country tells him to stick it up his fucking ass.
rooting for you aussies. Love and strength from Germany <3
Cheers dude. We have to come together across all borders to end this shit.
Let’s go mates. Kick them bootlicker asses.
The big key is gonna be if we get that sweet 172 seats with Lib+Green+NDP, we are only 1 seat short
If we hit that mark it means, hilariously, the one single green seat is needed to form a majority government without bloc's help needed
Which will force liberal party to play ball with NDP and Green Party's more progressive policies.
That's our ideal scenario, conservatives are told to go kick rocks, and green/ndp get an actual voice on decision making to push the country in a progressive direction.
One. More. Seat!
Atm we got it, this is the magic sweet spot where we want to be
172 seats exactly with lib+ndp+green
and conservatives can't even threaten a vote of non confidence with bloc's help. (1 vote short)
But they could trigger it with that 1 green seat's help, which means liberals have to stay on the good side of that 1 green seat XD
Hopefully there won’t be a Joe Manchin situation where just one of the liberals starts siding with the conservatives on just about everything to negate the majority (though I may be misinterpreting how the system works, I’m not super aware of how Canada’s legislature functions)
I blame Manchin alone for a lot of what we weren’t able to get done under Biden
If only they would embrace nuclear!
Currently it seems like there is a highly improbable but mathematically possible outcome where the Conservatives and Bloc Québécois form a government. Canada gets to be the 51st state and Quebec gets to be the 52nd state. 💀
Let's get that last seat! edit: typos
I'm happy for you Canada.
You succeeded with America couldn't.
Are y'all accepting asylum for programmers / tech professionals?
If you're serious, start looking for companies hiring up here. As I understand it's not easy, even for economic class immigrants, but I work in tech and I work with many immigrants (albeit not usually from the US, but it's a different world now). Mind you - please look carefully into the financial impacts as it is a change from the US. Salaries are lower and taxes generally higher, which may or may not be offset in your context in other ways (healthcare a big one, income tax deductions, etc.) But many people, myself included, prefer Canada regardless of the reduced compensation. It's not always about money.
Asylum, not yet. There's still a treat on the books recognising America as equivalently safe. Presumably it will get rolled back soon.
If you're serious, I can send you to the points quiz for economic immigrants.
What happens when a 'safe third country' starts adopting extractionary systems left behind by colonial empires that have, in part, held back third world economies for decades? Keep an eye on America to find out!
I'm sure America's substantial purchasing power will help prevent the rot from spreading within. Right? Right?!
Sky news spin: haha, Carney was actually Trump's win! I can't make this shit up (but apparently Sky news can...)
Daddy hasn't told them what to say yet and these kinds of outlets don't know how to think for themselves anymore. And at this point it's pretty much all news outlets based out of the US don't know what to say without him.
You’d have to be trying hard to forget your media literacy to think that was spin.
It’s a device that’s saying the Trump issue is the major one in the election. Trump, and how voters feel about him, is what is driving one party or the other to victory.
I did read the article and indeed the content is about what you say. On the other hand, I don't know if titling this as "Canada might be the second election Trump wins in six months" is an attempt at sarcasm, click-bait or spin (pretending not to know the number of people who will only ever read the title). It's sad that I now I jump directly to believing the latter so I do hope that I'm wrong
Is just treat any US and UK news outlet as the Onion these days.
Finally something to celebrate in this general vicinity. Congratulations, Canada.
I cannot wait to see how the Trump admin will spin this. Either that or they have a meltdown and immediately call it a rigged election. Bonus points if he tells Canadians to storm their capital.
They are 100% going to say our election was rigged, and our idiots are going to believe them.
excerpt of facebook comments Ive seen since last night
I'll be a little surprised if he addresses it more than a passing comment - the US conservative population doesn't actually give a shit about canada (unless they're told to be mad about it for some specific scapegoaty reason, but they'll just forget. Like they've all forgotten about the lumber issues, or eggs, or how 'canada is killing the US garment industry' that one was cute...). At this point he's got enough other things to distract them with, so why waste his very limited attention span on something he's declared a solved issue?
I think it would depend on whether Canada's new government is willing to play ball. If they're not willing to kiss Trump's ass and give America the preferential treatment that he's trying to extort from the country, there's going to be more than just a one-off passing comment about it. Probably a woe-is-me "Canada is taking advantage of us" campaign, I reckon.
There should be a bingo sheet.
Please, I am begging you, do not make this sheet. Right wing media will pick up on it, the golden one will catch wind of it, and it will become an achievement checklist. Please do not.
Bro I need gaslighting lessons from PP; how is he losing his riding, losing an election he has polled 20+ points in the lead in for almost two years, and yet gives a speech where he not only says he will stay on as leader, but makes it seem like losing the election was his desired outcome??
Really sad about Jagmeet and the NDP wipeout tbh. I know why it happened, but if I'm not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.
but if I’m not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.
No one who has any political awareness would give the liberals credit for that. That was the NDP's contribution.
No one who has any political awareness would give the liberals credit for that. That was the NDP’s contribution.
A lot of voters aren't aware. If it's not being blasted on repeat by a news channel, then at least 50% of the electorate has no idea what's happening. We're also so inundated with American politics that Canadian news gets drowned out as well.
"if I'm not mistaken"
That's how the NDP loses, even someone who seems to have a minimum of interest in politics isn't sure that it was the NDP that got us that. Yes, they forced Trudeau's hand on that question.
Yeah, I was 95% sure it was an NDP mandate, but I also have an awful memory so I was open to being corrected.
Jagmeet was getting wiped out regardless. The fatigue that existed for Trudeau was also present for Singh and Pollievre.
Bro I need gaslighting lessons from PP; how is he losing his riding, losing an election he has polled 20+ points in the lead in for almost two years, and yet gives a speech where he not only says he will stay on as leader, but makes it seem like losing the election was his desired outcome??
Because he is a weasel... he was in opposition for almost 3 years against Trudeau when Trudeau was toxic and PP was unable to make ONE meager alliance with nobody. We have Jagmeet to thanks because, like me, he could not stomach a PP majority
Electoral Reform will be passed this time.... right?
Of course it will .... hahahahaha
It was not in the platform. I'll settle for staying sovereign, maybe we can clean up FPTP later.
Fuck man, I wish I could afford move to Canada right now.
I can but they won't let my friends in. I didn't realize until I looked into it but national borders are actually quite rigid
You'd have to build new roots in a new place. I'll admit I worry that I'm running out of time for that at my age, or at the very least the window is closing.
Makes me feel pretty depressed. I'm not super happy with the landscape of people I have to interact with. I have a lot of decent friends but I feel like the number of very close friendships I have is zero due to a lot of major value differences and low population.
No one can afford to move to Canada. Our housing prices are stupid.
Even more unaffordable for an American. They need to have bankroll to survive a year without income and that includes covering possible medical expenses for 3 months. I have friends who have wanted to move here for years and the hurdles are large even with skills and secondary education. Only those with highly in demand educated skills get an easier path.
No different in America, and corporations are buying up homes so they can jack the prices up even higher. MAGA wants a population of renters so that they can control us by threatening us with homelessness.
this outcome has less to do with trump's actions, and more to do with how the conservatives behaved in spite of those actions.
I think enough people were like me, ready to vote conservative, but then lost faith in the party since they didnt really seem to have a plan on anything once trudeau was gone early. Pollievre's stock tanked once people saw that Trudeau was gone, and what was happening in the world
I don't know that 'Conservative' exists anymore. I'm American, but I think these comments work everywhere else, as Authoritarianism rises.
Growing up, I believed that liberal/conservative was just a difference in approach, but not a difference in end-goal. Both 'teams' wanted the country to prosper. In my 40s, now, I clearly see that we have different goals: Liberals want everyone to be prosperous, healthy, fulfilled. Conservatives value the prosperity only of those on top.
You may identify as conservative, little 'c', respect tradition and be careful with spending, etc; but I want you to closely evaluate the actions of people using that label across the globe. A vote for a conservative or right-wing candidate is a vote for the top 1% or less of the population of the planet. They may align with you on some topics, such as religion, abortion, fiscal policies, regulations, and more; but that is a ploy and they are absolutely willing to throw you away as soon as they have your vote and will cut everything you depend on once in power in order to pad their own pockets.
There are certainly perverse incentives and systemic issues that make even liberal politicians support bad policies, but the voter bloc that is 'liberal' wants to make things better for everyone. The conservative politicians, at least in the US where I'm paying attention, seem to be hell-bent on making things worse instead.
This has less to do with Trump's actions, and more to do with how the convervatives behaved...
This has been my experience as well and I'd like to highlight your insightful point on how it seemed like both options were still trying to work towards a greater good decades ago.
Modern day conservatism seems entirely based on the ethos that inclusivity has gone too far. Since the world has become (in a very general and oversimplfying sense) more fair and inclusive over time, the ideology now feels inherently regressive.
The line between regressive and conservative is so hard to define. However the former certainly is in ascendancy in America.
Explain how they gained more seats then.
The conservatives barely lost because the progressives and the BQ voters cut their legs off to hoist up the liberals.
Honestley, I was going to vote conservative, even after Trump. And then Pollievre went into third gear with Woke Derangement Syndrome, the guy was having unhinged rants. Couldn't get a paragraph out without mentioning woke. Ask him to define it, and he'd either PP.EXE stop responding, or he'd fly off the handle with pre-programmed slogans.
Stupid people on both sides of the race. But that was what turned me.
I'm curious, what attracted you to the Conservatives prior to the Maple-MAGA movement?
the last 4 elections I'd voted L > C > C > L
Im a moderate. I thought that the Trudeau Liberals had gone too far left back during the Scheer and Otoole days. Come this time around, I just lost any confidence I had in the Conservative party because they built their identity on "we're not the liberals". and failed to convince me they werent just going to kowtow to American Corpo-Fascist interests.
But if you would have asked me about specific policies that irked me to turn Conservative during the past .. its been a long time, I'd probably just point to specific times and incidents over the gun policy, immigration, corruption with the SNC lavalin scandal, and maybe foreign policy. I live in a very ignorant and uneducated town in a NS riding that had been pretty hardcore conservative the last 2-3 elections, and my peers probably played a hand in influencing my issues. I thought our riding was solidly going to remain Conservative, CTV projected Cons won, but several hours later they reversed it and Libs have apparentley won it.
Foreign Policy has always been a major "issue" of mine too, Until 2025 when we were faced with the nonzero possibility of actual aggression and conflict with America, the biggest thing that would influence my vote was how seriously the party was going to take the issue of us being more or less, de-facto at war with Russia, Because the "shadow" World War III is something that in my mind took precedent.
Not the original commentor, but the people I've discussed this with usually say one of 4 things. These aren't necessarily my views, just what I've heard from others:
Conservatives made significant inroads, lots of people in Ontario and Atlantic Canada that heard and liked the anti-woke messaging. I don't know how to bring these people around, and am frightened that there are so many of them. Over 40% of the popular vote.
Certainly doesn't bode well. Carney is going to actually have to make a real impact in the next 4 years or the next election will be a landslide for the conservatives. This is borrowed time for the liberals.
The cherry on top:
Mark Carnage
An absolute Carnageddon for PP
Canada should give Trump the Order of Canada for unifying the country. Do it.
Having a criminal history would likely make him ineligible.
There's no outright rule against it but several people have been removed from the order for committing crimes.
You can predict what likely happens next: more neoliberal policies and degradation of quality of life. In one of the next election the fascists take over Canada. They never learn.
This is my fear as well. Neoliberal policies are exactly what have made the extreme right so strong and powerful over the past decades. When people have no means to get forward in life, they resort to despotism, which is exactly why the poorest parts of the USA are so strongly in favor of Trump, while the wealthier parts are still clinging onto the liberal train.
Like I said in other posts, this is a good day for the current term, but if the Liberals aren't serious about making life better for real Canadians (not the super-wealthy ones), there's a good chance that this is only exacerbating an inevitable collapse.
This is the part a lot of US liberals are missing. Those red states are shit holes now. Look bombed out and war torn because industry left and took the money with them, and they were thriving 40 years ago.
A wiser human than me could probably find a way to incentivise companies moving headquarters out of high cost of living areas to more rural areas where rent isn't half your paycheck.
In one of the next election the fascists take over Canada. They never learn.
At least we stopped Maple MAGA from taking over now... we learned this one trick from the Americans
Mark "100 million by 2100" Carney
This feels like a short-term win but a long-term loss. Carney is a centrist, a former banker that's in to a lot of conservative ideas. He feels like Biden 2.0, the conservatives only losing because of Trump's unhinged rantings. MAGA-ism has gained a huge foothold in Canada, and turning to a do nothing centrist is only going to do so much.
that's in to a lot of conservative ideas
Fiscal conservative ideas, maybe.
Socially he's relatively liberal. Maybe not quite as much as Trudeau, but nowhere near what the CPC has become.
Trump didnt cause the Conservatives to lose, they did that themselves with how they acted in spite of how Conservatives across the world were acting... and the fact that most of their platform revolved around just screaming "we're not the liberals, we're not trudeau"
they acted with an extreme amount of entitlement. that because the liberals had ruined the country for 10 years, it was now their turn. couple that with a lot of snide, childish shitposting, and an absolute bombardment of anti-trudeau ads and rhetoric, they basically bullied trudeau out of office, and once he was gone, they didnt have a platform anymore.
then enter the Trump , Trade war, and threats of Invasion shit. The conservatives basically waffled during this foreign policy crisis that pissed a lot of people off. the reality had changed and a lot of people felt like bringing a party that was polluted with the far right, was now no longer tenable.
Eh. If Trump keeps sending shit our way it will be really easy to succeed against them. You know what happened to the British League of Fascists back in the day?
I'm totally okay with taking a shot on someone who is actually educated and respected as opposed to a career politician.
Many Western nations are turning to political outsiders out of frustration with the status quo. Conservatives and the far right have more effectively tapped into that underlying desire and capitalized on it.
Here we have an outsider who isn't a dog whistling regressive populist. That's a huge win for Canada in my book.
On what do you base the “do nothing” comment?
That's a win to me. Not every one on the left wanted a social left leader. Social issues are important. But the economy right now is the biggest fire.
Go Canada!!
HitlerPig is his own worst enemy, but nobody tell him.
yes!!
NDP and Conservative leaders lost their own ridings.
"Mark Carney" is the perfect name to demonstrate the Canadian "car" vowel. I am going to enjoy saying his name as Canadianly as possible.
Kind of a bummer watching how duopolistic Canada is, TBH.
FPTP do be like that. It's actually kind or remarkable we have significant minor parties.
True story.
Definitely makes Canada stand out relative to the US, where the choices are bad and apocalyptic bad.
If coalition governments are more democratic it's crazy how France, Austria, Germany, and Czech Republic (and probably more) all support genocide, prevent protests against it, accuse citizens of being antisemites, and veto attempts by international courts to do something about genocide. But then again, other coalitions like in Belgium can go against the trend.
At least Canada's two party system turned away from Trump. Canadians did better with two parties than other countries can do with 20.
At least Canada’s two party system turned away from Trump.
For now. America did the same in 2020, not that it mattered in the end.
Turning away from Trump doesn't matter when you get the same result wrapped in a more polite package.
Coming from a US citizen, Canada, get your people (more) educated. Idk the specifics and exact differences, for example whether or not higher education is publicly funded over there, but I’m talking about simply general awareness and enthusiasm to want to learn. Do like a PR campaign to equate being dumb and ignorant to hating hockey and maple syrup. Also moral education classes wouldn’t hurt (but you guys might be ahead of the US on that anyway).
Most shocking news of 2025
Aight, Canada. Now you owe us!
The delicious irony of watching the CBC announce the Liberals have won a fourth term .....
Defund that you stupid little twerp, guess Canada wasn't broken enough not to see through your stupid bullshit
The only thing I didn't like about the liberals is the needless gun control they enact that basically banned almost all semi-auto rifles and halted new sales on handguns.
Of course I want them to fucking solve the housing crisis. Holy shit! Finding a place to stay is insane. They better do that at least.
Lets be honest, hand guns were pretty much banned before. Nobody want to call the cops twice every time they go shooting.
No they were not. And you didn't need to call the cops to go to the shooting range, it is included in the RPAL.
Why do you think the liberal party refuses to pass the electoral reform they promised? They want you hostage. They want you to be desperate and to give up civil liberties to keep the conservatives at bay.