Google announces 1st and 2nd gen Nest Thermostats will lose support in October 2025
Google announces 1st and 2nd gen Nest Thermostats will lose support in October 2025
Yep. Officially done buying anything that needs a web service to operate.
Look for the Home Assistant logo and Matter.
yet another reason why "smart" tech is stupid as fuck.
Such a fucking con.
They should be legally required to flesh out a local API with the same functionality.
Back in I think 2016, Google announced that Nest thermostat owners would soon no longer have access to the Nest app because they were migrating to Google Home. Well that sack of shit app couldn't perform half of the functions. Users complained, and we still have the Nest app that still has additional functionality to this day.
Just a Google story that came to my mind
Such a typical Google story.
They really are a trash level company.
A significant number of companies that lasts longer than a few years release a new product and puts another product to rest. Google has a lot of folks reliant on their technology.
Microsoft has a problem shutting down projects long past their usefulness for an example of the opposite.
You should see how uppity folks got about Ms access being sunset.
This makes my decision to get Hive instead much easier. Thanks Google!
We're ending support, that may or may not have significant security implications for you. Solve this by buying this product again!
That’s a very solid argument not to buy from them again.
Actually, I never bought from them to begin with. I bought from Nest, and then Google acquired them and started in on the enshittification right away.
I’ll never buy another Nest, we all hated it. The only thing I liked was the weather report that came up when you walked past it.
"Yeah sorry the AC doesn't work, I need to upgrade my thermostat." "Oh yeah sorry the lights don't work, I forgot to update the light switch." "Oh right I forgot to mention the toilet doesn't work, my subscription ran out."
Technology really was a mistake.
Nest was towards the bottom of my degoogle list. I guess they are doing it for me. We hardly used the app anyways. I'll just disconnect it from the network.
I remember when my age old Honeywell thermostat went out of support - oh wait no I don't because it's a fucking thermostat.
Seriously if you ever needed a reason not to smartify your home, here is a pretty damn good one.
Smartifying the home is awesome. Just make sure everything runs locally in addition to self hosting Homeassistant - and you're golden.
IoT held such promise back when it was first talked about. It's disappointing that once again, capitalism ruined it, like everything else it touches.
There are a lot of IoT devices that integrates with Home Assistant, but it is not plug and play.
The reality is that a vast majority of people don't want to mess around with their IoT devices, so it opens up the space for walled proprietary devices and software.
FOSS IoT is still alive and well, but it takes a little bit of elbow grease to setup.
That's fair. And when people don't want to put in any effort and "just want it to work" right out of the box, that opens the door for corporations to take advantage. Although I understand the desire to just "have it work".
They need a law that open sources the code if a device is no longer supported.
Before releasing a product, an audit must show they are prepared to open anything at anytime, without the need for prep.
Better for the environment, better for the consumers. And thr company that released the product doesn't really lose anything.
I use Drayton Wiser products. In UK it’s a direct wiring for the old boiler control.
check your utility for rebates on your replacement. i saved $75 on my ecobee.
When it comes to house infrastructure we expect that it will keep working for decades. I don't think smart tech that requires the internet is at all a good idea and why I don't use anything that does, but there is bound to be issues with bluetooth and wifi connected devices generally if they don't have updates and support for the coming decades.
Companies need to be thinking about the length of support more for house installed devices because the cost of the device often pales compared to the installation costs and replacing them is often a big job.
To those who know the product, is if possible to extend the connected functionnalities with selfhosting?
You're probably better off just getting something that connects your HVAC system to home assistant locally, and when you've done that it's pretty much future proof for whatever integration you decide to use in the future. With phones and smartwatches and automations you don't really need a physical device on your wall, really.
Agreed... some Nest competitor thermostats will function without the wifi connection.
