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Couldn't someone living near a border just go over and buy stuff and skip the tariffs?

I mean, say, you want a really nice camera, or a drone, or maybe a gaming laptop, and since those things are made in China, they are too expensive to buy right now in the US, since tariffs are over 100%. So you just go to Canada, buy the thing, unpack it from the packaging, and pretend like its just personal items. Just like a smartphone.

AFIAK, border agents usually don't ask if you bought your phone in the US or from outside, they shouldn't ask about other personal electronics, right?

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  • Believe it or not, straight to jail.

    • Only for a few weeks before a judge tells them to release you. And so they send you to a black site in another country with no trial.

  • As I and others have mentioned elsewhere, you're taking a risk doing this, as if you get caught it will cost you more.

    One other thing to keep in mind is warranties if anything goes wrong with the item. If you are trying to make it look like you brought the item with you, you'll be getting rid of all the documentation and packaging that proves you purchased it. That includes receipts. Warranties often require proof of purchase, so you may be throwing away your warranty by doing this.

    Also, keep in mind that models and model numbers are often different in Canada. I've had phones that were identical to the US model but had a different model number. I've also had phones where they sold the European version in Canada (again with its own model number) and so it was basically a different phone from what you'd get in the States for the same model name (different CPU, different supported communication protocols.)

    Often our model numbers will get a "CA" added to the end making it obvious. Sometimes it won't be obvious, but won't match model numbers you can easily find info for online. My current laptop model number is undiscoverable online because it is so rare. There are similar ones for which the info mostly matches my computer, but I'm not always able to find good info.

    It's kind of funny watching Americans talk about this now as it was something we Canadians used to talk about all the time... Strategies for buying goods in the US to save money.

  • I did that once, when the Nexus phones weren't available in Switzerland but they were in Germany. I ordered it to a location close to the border that specifically offers a postal address as a service and went to pick it up.

    The correct thing to do would have been to go to the border agents, get a confirmation that I'm bringing the merchandise out of the country and pay the Swiss VAT. With the confirmation I could theoretically get the VAT back from the seller I paid it to. Except that was Google and they weren't intending to sell it for export, so I doubt they would have helped with that.

    What I did was unpack the phone, throw away the packaging, put my old phone in one jeans pocket and my new one in the other, and drive back over the boarder. Having two phones isn't that weird, so I thought I could get away with claiming them as personal items if I was asked. But I wasn't even stopped (they only do sampling at the crossing) so it was easy. But it was technically smuggling. Anything over 300 CHF needs to be declared and VAT paid, the phone was around 400 €.

    My mom once went clothes shopping to Austria and didn't declare them. The border guard asked what she bought. She claimed clothes, but not over the limit. He was like no way, I know that brand, they must be worth more, checked the stuff, and discovered it was worth too much. She had to pay VAT plus a pretty decent fine.

    I only crossed the US Canadian border once in each direction, but to me it seemed like they were way more strict and thorough than here in Europe within Schengen. So I'd be scared I think. But overall I still think your plan could work if you're careful with it. Maybe gaming laptop would be suspicious if you went for a one day trip, would be better if it was longer. But a phone not really.

  • I live a few miles from the border and cross at least weekly. You could generally get away with this for a handful of things, especially if you're smart about it (dispose of all packaging and tags, have an otherwise legit reason for a short visit, etc).

    But if they question you, and they determine you're intentionally lying about it, you can expect to pay additional fines and lose several hours of your life.

  • Yes. But only one or two things at a time. It's illegal but like you said if you just say you had it when you entered Canada you'll probably get away with it.

    If you come over with 100 laptops in your trunk you will almost certainly be forced to pay import duties on them.

    Basically if you're trying to save some money personally yes it's possible. Under a certain dollar amount you can usually even do it legally as long as you don't intend to sell it. But if you're planning on making a business out of doing this and selling it in the US cheap then you're gonna get caught

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