Netanyahu lashes out at Carney for daring to criticize him
Netanyahu lashes out at Carney for daring to criticize him
Netanyahu lashes out at Carney for daring to criticize him
Well, I was on the fence about Carney, now I see he won't be totally awful for the country.
Ha, "civilization". So that's what they're calling genocide today. Netanyahu needs to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
This is the same rhetoric that was used in Canada's genocide of indigenous peoples.
Part of reconciliation is denouncing what happened in Canada, which is still being felt today, and working towards reparations that are led by Indigenous peoples. We must learn from what happened and do better. But it is all in vain if we support the same atrocities being committed in other parts of the world.
To be fair, genocide has historically been a big part of many civilisations.
Sid Meier taught me that.
Always has been.
Stacks of dead innocent people and he thinks the other guys are the barbarians. Irresponsible statement?! HAHAHA. Get fucked you murderous piece of shit! There is no justification for what you are doing. And who cares about your one and only state. You don't deserve it.
I hate Hamas but the way Israel is dealing with this is horrible.
It doesn’t have to black and white or antisemitic to say that.
And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield, but that’s still not an excuse for leveling entire cities and indiscriminately killing civilians, or blocking aid that you could instead be supervising.
Bibi is a fascist authoritarian, a war criminal, and is so corrupt he's facing jail when he leaves office. He is no better than Hamas.
Zionism is literally religious nationalism — which shouldn't be tolerated by ANY religion — therefore Israel IS a fascist state. Society needs to stop acting like it's okay for the abused to become the abuser because they were abused. It was never okay, and it still isn't.
The only people using human shields are the IDF
The only people using human shields are the IDF
This is unquestionably false.
You can make an extremely compelling argument about the horrors that the govt of Israel and the IDF are doing without resorting to obvious falsehoods made in defence of Hamas.
I’m not saying we need to adopt some “all sides bad” enlightened centrism bullshit. If you want to focus only on the atrocities of the govt of Israel because that’s your passion: go for it. Call them out for what they are.
But please don’t defend Hamas or pretend they aren’t also committing atrocities. They do use human shields, constantly. And the atrocities done by Hamas do not take away from the absolute horrors of what the government of Israel is actively committing.
When these falsehoods emerge, it makes the argument against Israel appear delusional and undercuts your implied objective. And it’s not necessary! There is so much widespread harm that we can point to, we don’t need spread falsehoods for that.
And yes, Hamas is playing an asymmetrical game and using the rules of engagement as a shield
They're not, for the most part. This is Israeli propaganda that really took hold, but there was never any evidence for the human shields stuff.
Yep it's actually Israel that has routinely and systematically employed captured Palestinians as human shields. For some background, there is this recent article in Haaretz stemming from anonymous IDF soldier reports, titled "In Gaza, Almost Every IDF Platoon Keeps a Human Shield, a Sub-army of Palestinian Slaves".
If anyone is distorting rules of engagement and humanitarian law, it's actually Israel. Something that has come up again and again, especially in the writing of UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese, is the concept of "humanitarian camouflage" and how the Israeli state has very deliberately misused terms of international humanitarian law to cynically redefine civilian people, structures, and infrastructure as military targets. I am going to quote from an article she co-authored (available here):
The article analyzes the components of this humanitarian camouflage, unveiling how it has been deployed by Israel as a legal-political strategy in the service of a war of total annihilation. We start by examining how, since October 7, Israel has justified its genocidal campaign in Gaza using two registers: on one hand, a brutal register of dehumanization of the Palestinian population of Gaza, construed as a terrorist population to be eliminated; on the other hand—and simultaneously—a liberal register to legitimize its eliminationist violence in the face of its international allies’ audience, disguising it as compliance with IHL.
We then expand the analysis of the second register, showing how the Israeli military, mimicking IHL language, has construed the entirety of the built-up areas of Gaza as a continuum of alleged military objectives, reclaiming the ‘right’ to ‘lawfully’ raze houses, schools, mosques, churches, hospitals, entire neighborhoods, and entire cities to the ground, including the infrastructures indispensable for the survival of the civilian population, rendering the living space of the victim group unlivable. Subsequently, we examine how lethal distortions of the IHL concept of proportionality and collateral damage have been functional in construing entire masses of civilians as killable surroundings of military objectives with a diminished, or non-existent, right to life.
The analysis continues by showing how an array of IHL concepts like safe zones, evacuations, human shields, and “hospital shields” have been mobilized by Israel as technologies of settler-colonial displacement and genocide, creating conditions of life leading to the destruction of Gaza’s Palestinians “in whole or in part.” The article concludes by arguing that the settler-colonial genocidal war against Gaza, and Israel’s marshalling of international humanitarian law to legitimize it, ultimately shows that the international order has reached a tipping point whereby political acquiescence towards Israel and its legitimization as an international law-abiding state eviscerates the key legal tools the international community has developed to prevent international crimes. If tolerated, condoned, and unpunished, this process may inaugurate a new era of mass atrocities against protected groups in the Global South, in which big powers will be able to portray genocides as ‘incidental’ and ‘proportionate’ means to achieve their war aims.
I highly recommend reading the three reports issued by the UN on these matters, "Genocide as colonial erasure" which focuses more on historical context, "Anatomy of a genocide" which covers more of the present patterns of conflict, and finally "More than a human can bear" which covers the widespread and systematic use of gendered and sexual violence inflicted on Palestinians.
The main thing is that Isreal intentionally blocked and prevented critical aid from reaching a starving population of civilians. Thats the core of the genocide case because it demonstrates motive and intentionality to hurt only the civilian population. The report that revealed this was what flipped my opinion from supporting isreals response and war objectives.
People call bombing buildings and killing civilians genocide but its an expected part of this type of war. If the enemy hides among the civilian population you can kill the civilian population. If the enemy hides in buildings and booby traps them, you can destroy the buildings.
You realize Hamas is a government, right?
They employ social workers, civil engineers, etc.
Its fine to hate their military, but dont hate the guy picking up the garbage or laying water mains.
Bibi, the Liberals are already going to win, you don't need to help them!
Good thing Canada would have to arrest him if he steps foot here. Otherwise he'd have come to 69 PP. That'd push the libs to the moon.
It boggles my mind every day that a fucking Jew would commit genocide. Goddamn.
There's assholes everywhere. A religion, ethnicity, origin, gender, sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.
An asshole is gonna be an asshole.
Conservatives are literally all the same.
Why? The Jews of Israel and the Jews of the Holocaust are in large part wildly unrelated and for the most part camp survivors spoke out against Israel rather coming out for it.
It's very effective propaganda on their part because most people can't be bothered to learn facts.
Collective trauma is real. The Jewish people, and the world, should never forget the Holocaust. But when “never again” gets twisted into “never again, for us” it changes the attitude entirely:
I will tell you something about the Holocaust. It would be nice to believe that people who have undergone suffering have been purified by suffering.
But it’s the opposite, it makes them worse. It corrupts. There is something in suffering that creates a kind of egoism. And when such monstrous things have happened to your people, you feel nothing can be compared to it. You get a moral “power of attorney”, a permit to do anything you want – because nothing can compare to what has happened to us. This is a moral immunity which is very clearly felt in Israel.
Uri Avery, speaking after the IDF’s massacre at Sabra and Shatila
Uri was a Zionist poster child - his immediate family fled to (then mandatory Palestine) after the Nazis took power; every other relative who stayed in Germany was murdered in the Holocaust. His life story is incredible to read, and it’s a bitter truth to accept that he was marginalized and ignored by wider Israeli society because of his peace activism later in life.
Yeah, well, that's why Prejudice and Racism isn't just presuming bad things about people and acting worse towards them due to their ethnicity, it's also presuming good things about people and acting better towards them due to their ethnicity - in both cases you're presuming some are better than others based on things which bare no relation to the worth and character of an individual such as race, gender, sexual orientation and so on.
Just because somebody is a Jew does not mean they're better or worse than anybody else - it's their actions and what they support that should guide our judgement of an individual, not something they were born with.
Don't take this badly, but all this time you've been Prejudiced (and one might even say a Racist) even though you probably thought that wasn't the case (I suspect you believed it was the contrary, even) because it manifested in you assuming good things about people from specific ethnicities and treating them better than others rather than as negative presumptions and treatment (though by assuming some people are, due to their ethnicity, better than others and treating them accordingly, you are actually negatively discriminating against everybody else), and what you're seeing now, clear as day, is that the bad people within an ethnicity whom you judged better than others purely based on ethnicity, have weaponized that "positive" Racism of yours and of others like you into political and social capital to let them do the same kind of thing as the Nazis did, with impunity and even support from people who if they weren't prejudiced would've judged them more fairly (something which might very well have stopped this Genocide from ever happening).
The best posture, IMHO, is to try and not be prejudicial towards people no matter what their ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation and so on are, and that includes the kind of prejudice made up of positive presumptions.
Not Our Jew. He's been kicked out of the Tribe.
Imagine the lack of self-reflection to call someone a barbarian while committing genocide to steal more land from Palestine. I can't apprehend the confusion of thought necessary to think this way without starting with some blunt force trauma to the noggin.
There's no self-reflection at all.
To him, he's not committing "genocide", he's "protecting his people from terrorists".
It's always been an excuse for avoiding his corruption trial, I wouldn't ascribe him any sort of noble motivation.
Or just the assumed lack of self-reflection of the target audience, since this is Netanyahu and not Trump.
Didn't many leaders in Europe come out and say they're not going to arrest him when he visits?
Europe is just whispering to tell him they're fine with whatever he does. It's not just a single man's self-reflection anymore when he's been told there will not be any consequences of his actions.
Not a Jewish state, a Zionist state. A Jewish state would follow the Mosaic Covenant. They wouldn't covet their neighbor's property (Palestinian's land) They wouldn't kill (genocide). They wouldn't take the name of God in vein by attributing their horrible actions to their god. They wouldn't steal the land and houses from people. They wouldn't bear false witness against their neighbor by calling Palestinians terrorists for simply not giving up when their land is being stolen. A Jewish state might not be that bad, a Zionist state, on the other hand, is a fascist state. #Gaza #Genocide #Fascism #Netanyahu #Zionism #FreePalestine
Jews never agree on anything unanimously. We joke in Judaism that every small town has at least two synagogues, because of this
But as States go, you only have one full of Zionist assholes. Because the Jews in the other side are the ones that dont think there is a place for genocide, settler colonialism, and ethno-States
For this reason, there cannot be a Jewish State.
Shit did Carney criticize Israel? He gonna get 90%in my riding anyway, but I might change from bloc to liberal if it's a proper critic.
Sort of, but he mostly walked it back. Hard to tell if he's doing it to get through the election. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-clarifies-genocide-remarks-1.7506027
What got me about it, having watched more of the clip now, is how after he 'misheard' and said "I'm aware", so much of the crowd started chanting his name. Like how are they not seeing this is what left-minded voters want.
I've always been an NDP voter and it sucks to feel like I have to vote liberal this time but it would feel so much better if they could just fucking come out and say it. Enough is enough.
Thanks for the link. That's more - yeah I know, than a critic.
"civilization" vs "barbarians"
Typical speech for those trying to justify genocide.
Where's Boudica when you need her.
Canada has always sided with civilization
well that’s one way of saying it
"Israeli fascist, go fuck yourself."
I swear the nation of israel is trying to go down with the ship that is the trump administration.
No nation, or organization should be able to get away with murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians just because they want their land.
Bibby has a weird definition for civilized I bet.
It's ok Bibi, I was already gonna vote for him
You live in his riding?
Ok BB Hitler.
Since when did war crimes count as just means?
Stfu and go to The Hague you fuckin low life war criminal
Netanyahu was going to be put in prison for life after being convicted on corruption charges before he let the October attack happen and then declared martial law.
He should be hung upside down and shot a million times
He sounds like Hitler when he talked about the Soviets
On how many layer of facism someone needs to be to say that Canada as always been on the side of Civilisation ?
You've seen what Bibi considers civilized.
I agree that he is just another fascist trying to poorly disguise his ethnic cleansing.
Screw you hitler mark 2.
Good. Piss that fucking asshole off more. Dig harder. Talk him down. Call it what it is....a Holocaust.
What did carney say?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-clarifies-genocide-remarks-1.7506027
Seems he's back tracking a bit now.
He shouldn't have back tracked. The Democrats here refused to acknowledge it, and a bunch of people refused to vote for them as a result.
someone asked a loaded question that included the term "genocide" in regards to the conflict, Carney answered thats we we have an arms embargo. Then that suddenly turned into Carney accepting that it was indeed a genocide from which he quickly tried to distance himself. Its just some asshats asking loaded questions to try to stir up shit.
What a weird way to refer to your country. "The one and only Jewish state" thats like saying "the one and only American state" or "the one and only French state"
I hate Carney.
Not really, but I am not used to a Man making me love them this much and who has me considering cheating on my party this election.
I wouldn't say it's cheating. The guy is without a doubt fiscally conservative but holds some social liberal values.
As a "Dipper" since about 15/16 and someone who is opposed with all of their might to anymore Con or Lib Governments until other parties have a chance to try, I am cheating. haha
But jokes aside, The man seems to have a head on his shoulders and heart in his chest so I don't feel bad about the vote as long as my local MP isn't a shit heel.
Mr. Netanyahu, choke on a shit
hmmmm best I can do is "get fucked yahu"