BYD’s low-cost Seagull EV now starts at under $8,000 in China

Basically a Chevy bolt for $11,000 (top trim).
200% tariffs won’t protect Chevrolet.
- Well it charges faster, has assisted driving and native android auto. The Bolt takes an hour to fast charge from 10-80%, has lane assist (as an addon) and Android Auto. For 12 grand more than what you'd pay for the Seagull in Europe.
  Chevy is fucked
- BYD is effectively banned in the US, along with all other Chinese vehicles.
  
  Not surprised. American vehicle company will be bankrupt. Rented BYD in Asia, its quite luxurious tbh. They thought of lot of little things to make it comfy and better than even Tesla.
  
  it they are afraid the cheap cars will overcompete against the more expensive, bloated ev. its overpriced, newer ones around 40-50+k
- IIRC it's not tariffs that are keeping BYD out. There's some kind of law that's preventing them from selling their cars in the United States all together. I may be wrong about this I just seem to remember reading something of that nature.
  
  It’s probably the same law that de facto bans French cars in the US.
  
  This is what you're thinking of:
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
- Yeah, but basic safety standards will.
  
  Yeah, everyone thought that Chinese cars would have terrible safety and quality, and then the Chinese cars actually turned up and they didn't. And the auto industry collectively made a whoopsie in their pants.
  They're still pushing the narrative that Chinese cars are garbage though, because that and tariffs are all that they've got.
  
  BYD sells in Europe. They do ok. It’s no Chery Amulet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H9jeF_ADG4

Later this year, it will launch in Europe as the Dolphin Surf, with expected prices starting under £20,000 ($26,000)
I wonder how large of a profit margin is BYD making in Europe.
- I think they have a lot of airbags added. Side and middle including in the rear.

I guess this is why every nation is scared of Chinese EV's. Do they meet Western safety standards?
- Since they'll be selling it in Europe, they pretty much have to I guess?
  
  Well I guess we will all be driving Chinese EVs soon.
- A version of this car will be in UK this year but for $L20k. Seems too much, but exact specs unreleased.

Seagulls? 🤬 Stop it now!
- Perfect name since birds are really computers also.
  
  https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=U9t-slLl30E

The BYD Dolphin in Australia for $32k AUD is pretty attractive for an entry level model too. The Toyota Camry Ascent hybrid is $45k AUD. I kind of prefer a hybrid as petrol is still everywhere, but that cheap Dolphin will suit many people.

CCP subsidies included.
- How come people get mad at the Chinese Government for assisting in building their industries, rather than getting mad at their own Governments for NOT assisting in building theirs?
  
  The US gives subsidies to its own car manufacturing sector as well, the difference is that China with its cheap labor can use subsidies to do dumping in other markets in order to shut down their industry. What happens once China has the monopoly on a sector?
  
  Because their governments are perfect obviously /s
  
  more interested in keeping the monopolies funding these politicians.
  
  For real! Forced assimilation? Bad! Tianemen Square? Bad! Subsidizing EVs? Semi-planned economy? Seems good. Like literally anything it's a mixed bag. Nuance is lost and so are we
- US car companies list their prices with the subsidies included too.
- Don’t forget the slavery.
  
  Guess tankies found the thread, like always, downvoting anything bad about China.
  Guess the world has forgotten about Uyghurs, too... Much like turning a blind eye to Israel in favor of weapon deals