Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.
cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/9959466
geteilt von: https://programming.dev/post/27692275
https://feddit.org/post/9959466/5697405
[why blocked?] "a contributor made a push from a sanctioned region is what i saw. not even a main dev, and they didn’t receive any warning is my understanding. i might be way off, i’m not a final source:
Not that I condone Microsoft, but if it is a sanctioned country (Russia, Iran, North Korea, etc.). Microsoft will be in shit with the US government if they let it there.
If the project has contributors from there, then I guess they need to move off GitHub like they did.
This is a really strong argument for not depending on non-federated, centrally controlled services. It doesn't matter which country or company is behind Your Favorite Service™, they can be legally mandated to by Oppressive Regime ("it could never happen in my country!"), or they could just be arbitrary assholes.
I don't care why Microsoft did it. I moved off Github when MS acquired them, although in this case it probably wouldn't have made a difference. Regardless, what it proves is that you can not rely on a monopoly.
If I interpret this toot correctly, there wasn’t a direct commit from a sanctioned region, but one developer was in one of those regions for a short while quite some time ago. And he may have been flagged because of this.
Problem is that unless the person was paid for contributing, what goods or services are being exchanged with the project. I mean if Microsoft received money from that person for a subscription or something I might see them having to ban the user and refund the money. But what did the project receive that would violate sanctions? Volunteer work is usually not covered or else relief organizations and religious missionaries would be banned and the US historically loves sending those. What am I missing?
If they can tell they're from a banned region why are they letting them push in the first place. Sounds like a convenient excuse.
its sad that this is what the country decided to do. FOSS has nothing to do with the wars waged by politicians, sometimes at the expense of the very people trying to collaborate together despite chauvinism.
i imagine it will sadly get worse as these types of conflicts escalate.
That's strange. A lot of people from Russia continue contributing on GitHub without any issues.
This Russiaphobia is so completely out of fucking control.
This is the benefit of using distributed tools like git.
Yeah, the code history is the easiest thing to migrate. The other stuff like issues relies on having a good exporting/importing tool on both sides.
Yea tons of devs treat all of these platforms like the central host, but you can host it on all of them at once lol
Ooh, I didn't know that someone had developed a mechanism to move issues and PRs.
I remember commenting on the fact that while it's easy to move the source repo itself from location to location, as git makes that easy and self-contained, issues and PRs didn't enjoy that.
You can easily do that with forgejo/gitea. However, you cannot sync these issues, that's a one-off operation.
You can however totally sync the git repo - either out of the box or using web hooks/git hooks.
organic maps ftw!
If this doesn't spur on an antitrust suit in the EU, I don't know what will.
It probably won't, they were banned due to sanctions that the EU completely support. Though they were unblocked so it raises questions was the ban even legitimate and also why it took 2 weeks to unban them.
Edit. Also will it be as easy to organize ban of other services by making a commit with Russian vpn?
A bit of a different tone from when they announced that they were blocked. It was much more neutral (GitHub enforcing US law).
Forgejo seems pretty good, I'll move my stuff there too
It doesn't seem like a very "walled" garden if they were able to migrate all their data including issues and comments