Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account
I know a great loophole for avoiding setting up a Microsoft account: don't use this steaming pile of shit in the first place.
I upgraded my win10 steam pc to bazzite and the Linux driver for my old R9 380 graphics card actually supports a newer vulkan version than the win10 one, games are running great so far. I don't do insane gaming obviously but I think for older games it's a no brainer upgrade
Unfortunately, Bazzite doesn't work well on my devices otherwise I would. Waiting for a full SteamOS release to get better support.
Yeah, definitely switching to Linux if possible. I'm not sure how it will work with VR stuff tho.
VR is possible but not ideal right now, largely depends on your headset and the games. SteamVR is lacking proper asynchronous reprojection so you can't dip below your headset's framerate without stutter and alternatives like Monado aren't as plug-and-play. Hopefully when Valve releases their (presumably) standalone Linux VR headset deckard there will be another boost to improving VR on Linux for everyone.
Dualboot might be good since then you can tune windows to be a dedicated gaming OS which auto launches the needed things. I went from win10 to mint and haven't booted back into windows for months.
Cant speak to VR cos I switched to a Quest when I realised all I did was play BeatSaber, and the room with my computer is not very big.
As a quest 2 owner using Manjaro I can tell you the following: It works great. But sometimes things can ba a bit finicky.
Some games don't offer VR on their linux version (e.g. Warthunder) and are a pain to get working with their windows version on proton (allthough i havent tried this in a year).
But other than the odd exception everything is great!
And I think it'll only improve as Valve continues developing the steam deck and therefore improving proton.
Good luck trying this within the EU.
Don't think the commission cares after Vestager's departure
All these rules and all this limp dick enforcement 🤡
Jokes on them, my loophole has been linux since 2006.
Been using tiny 11 iso. Doesn't even ask u to create an online account, and it doesn't come with edge browser. Can still get security updates. So far so good.
For how long now?
3 months on my VM and just installed it bare metal on a work PC. Also, just to note, even if you are connected to the internet, tiny 11 still won't ask you to set up an online account, and even while doing updates during the install process.
Rufus has a flag for this too
Same. Been running it for nearly a year now
Windows 10 is creating a loophole that lets me skip installing Windows 11.
Most Lemmy users:
There is another way to the internet/account bypass during Windows 11 installs.
I went to Windows 11 last week using the BYPASSNRO method. I really only use my PC for gaming, and I've noticed a lot more freezing in Steam than with Windows 10.
I'm moving back to 10 as we speak.
Since I would want someone to mention to me, if I was being jerked around by Microsoft while just wanting to enjoy my Steam library:
You'll be surprised how much of your Steam library runs (with minimal effort) on Bazzite Linux and it's probably less hassle to install than doing a Windows downgrade.
Cool I can't wait to install this thing so that I can play rimworld or whatever
I know you're probably joking but Rimworld plays great on Linux through Steam. I've played hundreds of hours and have loads of mods.
yea
I could never understand why people are so against MS account. There's a similar requirement to use products from Apple and Google and everyone is ok with that.
everyone is ok with that
no they are not
Nope.
Yep.
Google and Apple don't force us, though they try hard, so many are still not ok with that.
It's the tracking vs utility conundrum. At the start people kind of knew that Google was gathering their information in return for free services like Gmail etc. And those services were useful/didn't show significant drawbacks etc.
But with Microsoft (who historically have allowed local accounts since the start and have comparatively only recently required or pushed for a linked account), the detriments are evident to people who use their computers for more than just surfing the web and watching Netflix or Tik Tok. It rubs them the wrong way when they have to connect a computer to the Internet to even set it up.
Some people don't live in a place where internet is a standard. Others don't necessarily want to set up a computer for themselves but for their small business or their aging grandma or for their kid (who can't legally sign up for anything but a child's account and that's significantly locked down in ways that maybe the adult doesn't want to deal with).
Some people work in fields where they have a different threat model and don't want Microsoft or other companies siphoning up their private data. Some of them are still forced to use Microsoft products because of work etc.
The thing is though, people should have the choice when they are buying a product that will belong to them about what that product does and how it functions. And the vast majority of people who do want that choice are against this measure and measures like it.
On iOS, apple barely shoves their bloatware down your throat. Their methodology is the opposite actually. Simplistic and debloated, for the most part. Google doesnt force you into anything either. There are alternative software that you can use.
With windows the only alternative is Linux, but a small fraction of people know about let alone use Linux so thats not really in the conversation.
Windows wants to force you to make an account/log in with one which cant be done offline unless you do some commandline workarounds in win11. The issue is, this is a PC. Not an iPhone. Not a Samsung. It is your own dedicated hardware that you should be able to use as you please without being forced into an online-only system that forces copilot down your throat.
Your pc isnt “a Microsoft computer”, its a computer that happens to run an operating system made by Microsoft.
I don't think it's everyone being ok, more like everyone complying because sometimes you have to.
I have several Android devices that work without signing into any account. I get my apps from F-Droid and some apks extracted from my phone that does have a Google account.
Samsungs are annoying, with their regular nagging, begging you to also make a Samsung account. I would never buy one but I'm on-call with a work-owned Samsung and there's one notification that can't be disabled. It goes off every once in a while and makes me think I have a service call.
Windows, eh, I switched to Linux long ago, but there's always alphabet soup edition (IoT LTSC) that is far less bloated.
Create throwaway account that will never be used except for Windows 11 install and go on with your day, tada!
That's certainly an option for anyone who has tried Linux and is unable to use it for one way or the other.
Problem is, many haven't tried Linux for one reason or another and they continue to complain about stuff like this without even trying to move away from Windows.
