Republicans push to make "Trump Derangement Syndrome" a mental illness
Republicans push to make "Trump Derangement Syndrome" a mental illness
Five Republican Minnesota state senators are pushing for the term to be included in the state's definition of mental illness.
Summary
Five Republican Minnesota state senators plan to introduce a bill classifying "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS) as a mental illness, defining it as "acute paranoia" about Trump's presidency.
The bill argues TDS causes hysteria, verbal hostility, and aggression toward Trump supporters.
Critics argue this represents a dangerous politicization of mental health diagnoses that could suppress political expression.
The bill will be read Monday before the Minnesota Senate Health and Human Services Committee, where Democrats hold a narrow majority.
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Never, ever forgive magats for bringing this to our country. Don’t let them squirm out of it or try to play dumb, this is exactly what they wanted. Trump is the symptom and they are the disease
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As an outsider from Canada ... I also blame all those idiot Americans who just stand on the sidelines and watch the country burn down and hope that by doing nothing, no one will ever do anything to them.
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Most of us just don’t know what we can actually do and are being gaslit by everyone around us that it’s not as bad as the media is making it sound.
So if you do something you are being irrational and the things you can do without being thrown in jail have no results currently (and are being done to no avail). If you don’t do something you know it’s going to get worse. And then the worse thing you know that’s coming requires really serious counter measures.
Which if you act on timely you will be seen as over reactionary - and the problem. And then everything worse that comes after that will be seen as an appropriate response to the “radical violent and lunatic left”
Most of us in my lefty group are just starting to stockpile food and water. Either it’s full market crash or worse. So. Have the essentials on hand and a method to protect them. Fingers crossed it won’t get to that. But. It probably will.
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Yeah, the non voters also make me quite pissed off as well. I basically hate everyone in this country other than Harris voters. Sorry our country is full of garbage and treating your great country this way, I’ve cussed anyone out hard that I’ve heard supporting it if it’s any consolation
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The end game is that every one of the MAGAts will have to go through a period of removal from society and reintegration only when they've been deprogrammed.
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As great as that'd be, this is assuming they'll lose. Currently, they're not losing
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I’m halfway down for a vanguard on their asses cos that’d be less work
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This is a test. They’re seeing if they can outlaw objecting to Dear Leader by legally classifying it as a dangerous psychological condition.
This is not about mental health diagnoses. This is the pregame to the American edition of the night of the long knives.
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This is what Putin does to Russians who criticise him, eg making anti-ukraine war stickers or graffiti.
This is also what used to happen to women who wanted to get a divorce or generally wouldn't obey her father or husband. They called it hysteria and thought that it was because of the 'wandering womb', yep they thought her womb was wandering around her body, woo woo.
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We live in a fucking clown world.
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Clown country.
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They haven't seen deranged yet. And thats a lot knowing their own actions. Wait until their wrecking ball of an economic plan makes food impossible to buy. Then you'll see deranged.
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Derangement was attacking the Capitol on Jan 6th. This is an excuse to jail anyone who dares disagree.
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Democrats’ messaging about January 6th is insane.
It is not morally wrong to do a Jan 6.
It is morally wrong to to do a Jan 6 for the reasons it was done.
Way to go- you’ve communicated to your base in advance that their only hope is to do something that’s absolutely reprehensible.
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I don't think that will happen, just look how well China, Russia and North Korea have their population under control. The same will happen in the USA.
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In first reading the title I was wondering if the bill was talking about people blindly following Trump.
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Same - instead sounds like they want to classify dissenters as mentally unwell so they can be locked-away or deported like the rest.
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Not just locked away, they want to torture them in mental institutions and fry their brains with psychiatric meds. Just like in Morther Russia.
Don't assume this is a joke.
They are constantly probing, and will keep trying to expand their power until they are stopped.
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The senators who proposed this should be removed from office. This is beyond a farce.
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And what Trump is doing it not? The only laws that still exist, is the ones that repress people they don't like.
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Obviously, this horrendous and fascist (par for the course). I think there is also a subtle insidious layer to this that would imply stripping all dissidents of their gun rights, therein stifling rebellion.
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the fucked up part is if there is a president after Trump it will take decades to fix the damage he did in 2 months.
we're still suffering from Regan's decisions
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There will be a president after him. He cannot live forever, thank fuck.
Whether that president is actually democratically elected is yet to be seen.
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Honestly if the US doesn't have a democratically elected president in 4 years its not going to have a president ever, given the last 2 months I doubt there would be anything left to be president of if Trump manages to keep himself in powr for however long he has left to live.
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This is the most dystopian shit I've read this week. Impressive, all things considered.
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It's funny because the Republicans are the ones suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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Back in 16~17 a guy I was working with was accusing people of suffering from tds. One day he said it to me , I laughed and said " you don't know where that term comes from do you?"
He looked at me confused and curious "no, where did it come from?"
I said "man that's some shit Hilary Clinton came up with to describe trump supporters , your so fucking stupid your using it all wrong 🤣!
I never heard him say anything about tds around me again.
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It's the other way around.
The mental illness is not "paranoia about Trump's doings", paranoia about Trump is normal when you're a decent human being who is thinking clearly and fact-based, because then you should absolutely be paranoid about an unhinged, mentally unstable, dangerous fascist taking power in the US. If that doesn't bother you, I'm sorry, but you're probably simply uneducated. See old Nazi Germany for "prior art" on this one.
What could be considered a "mental illness" is what causes people to believe or support Trump, or the current Republicans, or the MAGA movement, or the current right-wing extremism in general. This is likely an issue of either low education, low intelligence or naive belief in various forms of internet propaganda. Or multiple of those issues combined. So it's not really "illness" but rather a misinformed and/or radicalized person. Similar to what cultists become in real cults. Fascism is very cult-like in general. There's usually a supreme leader and a doctrine (usually based on falsehoods) to live by, and everyone who doesn't do that is considered an "enemy" or at least inferior. What you read on the internet and especially social media or "alternative news sites" is already often weaponized and might be able to radicalize you or lead you away from the fact-based truth. There's TONS of disinformation, sometimes harmless, sometimes funny, but sometimes not. Sometimes it's dangerous, especially if you're not able to spot what's likely true or not. If you aren't able to filter out disinformation, propaganda, lies, half-truths, weird memes, i.e. if you are unable to stick to reputable sources, peer-reviewed science, and so on, then you WILL fall for at least some amounts of misinformation and you MIGHT even become part of a cult (e.g. MAGA movement, conspiracy believers, anti-vaxxers, QAnon, radical right-wing extremism, ...). And again, it's all weaponized and that is useful for various involved parties for various reasons. For example, Putin wants misinformation on social media because with it he can destabilize Western democracies, because common citizens fall for this stuff and lose faith in their own governments. The end result helps Russia, because Western democracies will then do less and be less united against Russian attacks. Billionaires like Musk or Zuckerberg want misinformation on social media because with it they can better control the narrative and extract more money from the users because polarizing and extreme content gives them more interactions and thus money. Billionaires also want less governmental regulation, which is why Musk already demolished several regulating bodies in the US. Autocratic fascists like Trump also want misinformation on social media because with it they can control the narrative better. What these involved parties all don't want is the actual truth, so they are usually anti-science, anti-education, anti independent journalism, and so on. It's better for them if the common people are uneducated and uninformed, and follow the newly created doctrine. It's easy to tell that they want to create their own fake version of the truth, and control the narrative in that way.
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Dude and or gal. Paragraphs.
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So Gender Dysphoria is bullshit, but TDS requires tax payer money thrown at it...
Shut up GOP you're drunk
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Me getting my monthly disability check after beging diagnosed with "TDS":
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Nah, you're just going into the RFK Jr. forced labor camps to replace the workforce lost by the mass deportations, no healthcare, barely any food, ultra-hardcore 12-16 hour workdays, until you fully join the Trump cult.
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...they freaked out because Obama ate spicy mustard...
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Yeah it wasn't really about the mustard or the tan suit or the birth certificate.
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ODS baybee
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that dijon mustard.
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How Russian of them.
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Just out of curiosity, do you want to hold the trials after the shit burns down in Nuremberg like the last ones, or do you want to do that somewhere in the US?
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I can't tell if they're joking or are dead serious anymore.
I have a mental illness -- 2 of them actually, Major Depressive Disorder and Generalized Anxiety Disorder. Possibly will get PTSD thrown in that mix soon too. Therapists and Psychiatrists use a little book called the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, DSM-5 for short. Unless they can convince the APA to include TDS in the DSM-6 then it's not a mental illness.
This is nothing but thought policing and a way to label someone with mental illness when they really don't have one. It's also causing all of the work that's been done recently by NAMI, MHA, and AFSP to try to end the stigma surrounding mental illness to be set back to the era of mental institutions (something that their beloved Reagan did away with).
But what the hell, might as well add it to the DSM-6 and slap TDS on top of all my other mental illnesses 🤷🏻♂️
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they're both. they're trolling us, and they're deadly serious. it's the "haha jk unless" approach to manifesting Overton window shifts with irony, aka meme magic.
my comment here analyzes it more: https://lemmy.ml/comment/17320556
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Geez, all of this because Obama just had to wear that tan suit in 2014.
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that bougie dijon mustard he used on his hotdog.
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Won't tds being a diagnosable mental health condition make those exhibiting it a protected class?
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No, that's not what they want, this is more like the Nazis putting the stars on people in camps to designate visually who to attack first.
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Yeah, if the rule of law meant anything. It doesn't anymore.
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Is this some kind of stunt? Like they know it's not going anywhere but they can read their witty bill into the record for giggles. What an embarrassment. Who votes for these toddlers?
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It’s to begin normalizing the idea of locking up dissenters…
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Projection. Again.
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So explaining reality to a Trump supporter is Trump Derangement Syndrome? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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This just in: 99% of the world’s population suffers from Trump derangement syndrome.
The other 1% has actual certifiable psychological issues.
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Being a Trump supporter is a mental illness
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That's an insult to mental illness.
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Dictators outlaw dissent.
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I've always thought Trump Derangement Syndrome better described MAGATurds. THEY are the ones who are absurdly and inexplicably in love with him, no matter how poorly he treats them.
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TDS was always a sham, a way to write off all concerns and protests of Trump. "Oh don't listen to them, those who question Fearless Leader only do so because they're insane. He is perfect and loves everybody"
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Anyone mind linking thr actual bill? Didn’t find it in the article
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The real mental illness here is the "Trump following syndrome", where people still support him despite what he does.
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One step away from Thoughtcrime.
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Would it be so hard to put Minnesota in the title? (Not op, the publisher) (But also op)
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Since when do senators diagnose shit?
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And I'll fucking wear that diagnosis with pride. Fuck them all, he's factually terrible.
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It's a social construct. Much of the population wont understand due to lacking education and deficient knowledge base. Hopefully there will be further explanations for laymen in the future DSM5.
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So that shit won’t be covered by insurance either, so here we are right back at square one, you illiterate fucks
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Gaslighting 101: blame your victim(s)
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Just gonna leave these five names and their contact info here, for no particular reason at all:
- Eric Lucero - District 30 - (651)296-5655
- Steve Drazkowski - District 20 - (651)296-5612 (publicly listed home address: 1646 Cherry St. East, Mazeppa, MN 55956)
- Justin Eichorn - District 6 - (651)296-7079
- Glen Gruenhagen - District 17 - (651)296-4131 (publicly listed biz address: Gruenhagen Insurance & Financial Service Inc., 624 13th St. East, Glencoe, MN 55336)
- Nathan Wesenberg - District 10 - (651)296-4913
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And this is exactly why those "red flag" laws are a bad idea.
For example, the state can determine anyone who hates Trump is not able to procure a firearm....