Canada ‘will never be part of the US’, says new PM Mark Carney amid trade war

He's not joking. Trump's jokes are like all fascist "jokes": they're threats, and the humour for them is watching you squirm, and then telling you that they're only joking, watching your tentative relief, then threatening you again. They're just playing with their prey.

Canada needs to be working with its allies on a defensive plan now. And the other four of the Five Eyes need to stop sharing intelligence with the USA.

The Canada shit is coming straight from Peter Navarro

The only tangible thing I can remember him saying and not actually doing it is shooting someone on 5th Avenue. "Drain the swamp" is a quaint platitude, but what it actually means is different from person to person. But i can guarantee he wants an awesome military dictator parade, he wants to own Canada, Greenland, and Panama, and while he doesn't give a fuck about anyone but himself, he is far more willing to express and act on that with marginalized people.

since 2015

Honestly, I'd say that a lot of Trumpism's stuff is more-or-less in line with the stuff that the John Birch Society has promoted, and that goes waaaaay back. I mean, Trump talking about annexing Canada/Panama/whatever, no --- in fact, that's one of the few cases that I think that they'd take a dead-opposite position on, since they've a horror of the North American Union. But there's a lot of overlap outside that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

The John Birch Society from its start opposed collectivism as a "cancer" and by extension communism and big government.[29][30] JBS publications referred to the fight against Communism as a spiritual war against the devil.[25]: iv, 156–157  Allegations that so-called "Insiders" have conspired to control the United States through communism and world government are a recurring theme of JBS publications.[31] The organization and its founder, Robert W. Welch Jr., promoted Americanism as "the philosophical antithesis of Communism."[32] It contended that the United States is a republic, not a democracy, and argued that states' rights should supersede those of the federal government.[33] Welch infused constitutionalist and classical liberal principles, in addition to his conspiracy theories, into the JBS's ideology and rhetoric.[34] In 1983, Congressman Larry McDonald, then the society's newly appointed chairman, characterized the JBS as belonging to the Old Right rather than the New Right.[35] The society opposes "one world government", the United Nations (UN),[36] the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), the Central America Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA), and other free trade agreements. It argues the U.S. Constitution has been devalued in favor of political and economic globalization. It has cited the existence of the former Security and Prosperity Partnership as evidence of a push towards a North American Union.[37][38] The JBS has sought immigration reduction.

The JBS opposed the civil rights movement of the 1960s and the Equal Rights Amendment in the 1970s.[16][39][40] It has campaigned for state nullification.[41][42] It opposes efforts to call an Article V convention to amend the U.S. Constitution,[43][44] and it has been influential at promoting opposition to it among Republican legislators.[45] The JBS also supports auditing and eventually dismantling the Federal Reserve System.[46][non-primary source needed] The JBS holds that the United States Constitution gives only Congress the ability to coin money, and does not permit it to delegate this power, or to transform the dollar into a fiat currency not backed by gold or silver.[non-primary source needed]

That's one issue where they both agree. The conservatives want to be more like the US with lower taxes and fewer regulations, but they still want to be Canadian.

There's also an election coming up in Australia and the position of the conservative opposition is to give Trump whatever he wants. So contarianism is alive and well there.

There were Ontarians running around with Trump stickers and Fuck Trudeau flags on their trucks. There were dumbasses talking about their first amendment rights as if they were American already. Canada has its share of Trumpist traitors who would be only too glad to submit their country to the emperor's rule.

Canada also has NATO.

The recent film Civil War gives a good example of what could happen. There is certainly a subset of Trump supporters that would follow orders. But a large segment would likely split off and further divide the country.

Given the U.S.’s recent experiences in Afghanistan and Iraq, countries far smaller and with far fewer resources (natural and industrial) than Canada, I like our (Canada’s) chances!

Plus our military may be small but it’s elite, composed of professional soldiers extremely well-versed in US (and NATO) operations and tactics. If Middle Eastern countries with largely irregular forces can give the U.S. migraines using guerrilla tactics, we can do the same with far better results.