Putin says Ukrainians must 'surrender or die'.
Putin says Ukrainians must 'surrender or die'.
The Russian leader says his forces have trapped the remaining Ukrainian soldiers in Kursk
Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had trapped the remaining Ukrainian soldiers in its western Kursk region, where they have held on for more than seven months in one of the most important battles of the war.
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So... Let me check I get this right on the timeline.
America Europe Ukraine meet, agree to a 30 day ceasefire. Agree this tests if Russia is serious about ending the war. Putin gobbs off, surrender or die.
Categorical that Russia is not serious about ending the war.
Next steps boys
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The next step is to get Putin to a table and poison or radiate him and end it that way.
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Trump gets angry how his perfect plan fails, calls for sanctions and increased weapon delivered to Ukraine of of spite.
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Or he sulks in the corner focuses on his trade war and bans media outlets that point out how terrible is at negotiation.
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Because they need Ukrainian resources or the Russian state goes bankrupt and that's the end of Russia.
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- America Europe Ukraine meet, agree to a 30 day ceasefire. Agree this tests if Russia is serious about ending the war. Putin gobbs off, surrender or die.
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Man, what a peace-loving guy! Damn Ukraine for not stopping the war! >:/
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Ukraine shouldn't have started it by wanting to be independent of Russia.
Edit: do I really need to add /s?
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Ukraine asked for it. By the way she dressed. If Ukraine didn't want to be invaded, she should have just kept an aspirin between her knees
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Accept that there are those lurking here whos only purpose is to downvote good and accurate content. So for the real lemmy users, no you don't have to add it. For the ones who are only here to stir up trouble. Why bother.
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Europe, I hope y'all are doing the whole "speak quietly and carry a big stick."
Because if Putin steam rolls Ukraine, he's not stopping there, and now he has the US government under his control too.
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If Europe really wanted to stop Russia, they would've sent armies into Ukraine.
"We don't want to escalate because it might start WW3!"
But Putin is going to attack you guys anyways when he's done with Ukraine.
"Yes, but this is the rhetoric dumbasses have been told to peddle so that's what we're doing!"
I still remember when people said Ukraine shouldn't mine its border because it would be seen as "escalation." Funny how the wrong-crowd always scatters like roaches after the damage is done.
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They have scheduled a committee meeting to decide where to plant the tree from which they might someday get big sticks.
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We're doing that. Well, without the stick.
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Bet.
We ready bruv
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Bro, you don't even have the strongest army inside of Russia.
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Fucking war criminal.
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And I say Putin must die or rot in prison.
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Throw him out the window of a crashing plane in poisoned underwear.
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Hm this is going to be a real speedbump on the way to Trump's Nobel
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I heard that Duterte got his Nobel price for his hard work in the Filipines! C'mon putin, visit Cancun but why not have some touchdowns along the way. See if you can tell interpol from cute dancers or maybe food servants? The interpol has your price! Come get it!
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So more weapons and aid to Ukraine it is then.
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They can't win without additional troops.
I wish I could say I don't know why you people don't realize it, but I get it now.
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The Russia cannot win without additional troops either. And they cannot get those.
Eventually the Russia's economy will collapse, and at that point it will lose the war and has to leave Ukraine.
Ukraine cannot win the war, but has enough support that it also will not lose it. The Russia cannot win the war, and doesn't have enough support to avoid eventually losing it.
Once the Russia has lost the war, it has to leave Ukraine, because then there's nothing it can do to stop Ukrainian forces from taking its territories back.
It is irrelevant that Ukraine cannot win the war, since the Russia is doomed to lose it.
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He wants peace btw
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There will be peace when there's nobody left to fight.
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Technically correct dictator 🥲
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He cherishes peace with all of his heart. He doesn't care how many men, women and children he kills to get it
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Bullshit.
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Nah you can totally trust people who use the terms "or die" in peace negotiations
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For anyone not reading the article he is specifically talking about any troops Ukraine has left in the Kursk region as there has been a general pullback into Ukraine from Kursk in the last few days. This is not about the wider peace negotiations.
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For anyone not reading the article
ie. everybody in the thread
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That’s not a mutually exclusive or
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Trump was supposed to end this war in a day. Has it been a day yet?
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In the words of The Dread Pirate Roberts: "Death First!"
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Headline will probably work as well if you just switch positions of "Putin" and "Ukrainians".
Edit: The words in the headline, you dinguses. Switch the positions of the words and the headline will probably be true just the same way 🤦😄
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Dude, how do you suppose Ukraine would kill everyone in an area 7000 km wide?
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You, and 67 other people didn't catch my drift. Edited the comment to make clear what I meant.
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Let's delve a bit deeper into this: The Russia surrendering means it exists only within its borders. Ukraine is not going to kill Russians inside the Russia, nor do anything else to them either. They kill what they have to, in order to get the Russia out of Ukraine.
Ukraine surrendering means it exists within no borders whatsoever. The Russia is killing Ukrainians inside Ukraine, and will continue doing so even if the war ends.
So, Putin says Ukraine must surrender or all people of Ukraine in Ukraine will die. And you're saying it could be said that Ukraine "says" the Russia must surrender or all people of the Russian Federation in Ukraine will die. I think there's a very important difference between these two. While it would be idiotic to kill all Russians (Rossijskie) in Ukraine, it would still mean "only" killing them in one country outside their own. Killing all Ukrainians in Ukraine would mean killing them in their own country.
