French nuclear attack submarine surfaces at Halifax, Nova Scotia, after Trump threatens to annex Canada (March 10)
French nuclear attack submarine surfaces at Halifax, Nova Scotia, after Trump threatens to annex Canada (March 10)
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This isn’t a show of force, it’s a demonstration for Canada who is planning to buy a number of these submarines from France.
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You're right, thanks for adding context. I'm immediately suspicious when a picture is posted with no accompanying news article, and my search wasn't turning up any articles, only social media links.
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Article is about selling nuclear powered subs. Canada doesn't need these boondoggles for defense against US, because the mission capability is being months at sea.
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Regardless, it's presence makes a statement that Canada is not alone.
Though I'd be cool if it was stationed at Miquelon for a few months.
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They don't need attack subs. They need boomer subs. At this point, Canada needs a nuclear deterrent. And I say that as an American who would be in the cross hairs of said nuclear deterrent. Canada should contract with the French for protection under their umbrella until they can build some of their own. The lesson of Ukraine should be that nukes protect small nations from fascist larger ones. Canada could easily end up like Ukraine. It's not like fascists can't find a casus belli. Putin was "restoring Russian glory" or some such. Trump would be "finishing the American Revolution" or some other bullshit.
Please, Canada, from a friend of yours to the south, do not take this threat lightly. No one is going to be able to save you if the US decides to invade. The same oceans that protect you will prevent your rescue. The only hope Canada will ever have of being able to militarily protect its borders from the US is a credible nuclear deterrent.
Just please, don't harden your hearts while you build these weapons of destruction. Don't close your doors to refugees from the US. As someone who is on the regime's enemies list, hopping across the Canadian border and begging for asylum is the last chance I might have if things really go bad.
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Instead of putting all eggs in France basket, Canada should also approach North Korea, China, and Russia for detente and nuclear deterrence. Flirting with North Korea is best path to get SK and Japan to commit to our auto industry, and decouple from their own US extortion. Taking bids for Russia to take over NORAD sites is more constructive than continuing military cooperation, and shamefully subservient to US defense pacts with Philippines. If Russia is no longer the enemy the US forces us to make, then we are protecting the US from Russia, and they need to pay for that privilege.
US and foreign auto industry must be forced to choose Canada over US. US manufacturing destroyed through export tariffs on materials and energy, and proceeds used to subsidize Canadian manufacturing. Manufacturing/MSFT in Washington and Michigan states must recommend secession and joining Canada, and be covered by our nuclear shields.
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Yes, this old news is about a nuclear-powered attack submarine, not necessarily a submarine that can nuclear-attack.
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IIRC only 2 out of the 9 french subs in service exclusively carry torpedoes and anti-ship missiles (Rubis class). I'm sure the 3 Suffren class with no second strike capabilities could still deliver some sort of short ranged tac nuke. So there are high chances that this is a submarine that can nuclear-attack.
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I mean, they're not mutually exclusive. Nobody was about to start openly threatening the Americans, but having French forces around and mulling over defence deals with France sends a signal.
We don't know what Macron and Trudeau talked about, but accelerating things like this in light of the new reality could well have been part of it.
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Also a great and well deserved middle finger to Australia
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What's the point of these submarines if there aren't nukes on them?
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There's a dismantled trebuchet on board.
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To shoot at the ones with nukes on them?
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I guess they could use them as a regular strategic missile platform.
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Nuclear submarines are powered-by nuclear power, they aren't necessarily platforms for nuclear weapons.
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Fake
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France manages to get a sub to us before the UK even deigns to comment. That says it all. Merci beacoup!
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Look here sonny Jim, Daddy's always watching, Mummy might show up first for a bit of comfort and that, but Daddy'll be here when you need him.
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Well done on falling for the propaganda
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Propaganda to do better for our country is needed at this point. Trade wars are a'comin, best to have a large movement to weather the storm.
And unfortunately might only be a few winners, https://youtu.be/oYUI4hu950w
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It's also an account that has that one single comment.
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Bonjour!
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Hijacking the top comment to let people know this isn't in response to any American threats, this is Naval Group, a French naval defense company, showing off their submarine because Canada is looking to spend 60 billion on twelve submarines. The plans for this purchase were publicly announced on July 10, 2024.
Here's a French news article about the submarine, seeing as I couldn't seem to find any sources in English.
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Naval Group, a French naval defense company
Ah shit, that's the same company Australia had a deal with to buy diesel subs, before our fuckwit former PM reneged on the deal to create AUKUS and buy American nuclear subs.
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I had real good tingle feels imagining France showing up on our coast during this part of history.
A real “we got you bro” moment in my imagination.Le sad.
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JT was just in France as one of his last acts as PM. Mere days later this bad boy shows up in a Halifax harbour. 🤔🤔🤔 Merci a la belle France 🇫🇷🤝🇨🇦
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Vive la France!
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Jemepelle
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Could have imagined this happening as little as 3 years ago.
An ally sending a nuclear deterrent into our waters as a message/warning to the US. This normally happens to countries like Iran or North Korea
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To be accurate, this is a nuclear propelled attack submarine. It does not carry nuclear warheads and is not what we normally call a "nuclear deterrent".
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It does not but can carry nuke tipped missiles and even though we have the screw signatures of our allies…this is still a message that the rest of the world except Moscow is looking down on us in disappointment
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Still hasn’t happened. This was a sales pitch for a Canadian defence contract.
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Never have I been more pleased to see a foreign navies nuclear attack sub in my nations waters.
(odd times)
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nuclear subs always give me gundam carrier ship vibes
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Would a french submarine wear its hat like this:
or like this:
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Asking the real questions
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The top one looks like he got hit on the head.
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The conning tower is clearly it's head, though. The real answer must be on the hull behind it.
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Holy shit I laughed out loud…
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You should cross post this to non credible defense. They'd love it.
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This deserves its own post in !ehbuddyhoser@sh.itjust.works.
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US citizen here. I have become such a huge fan of France.
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Same. Also once you know and understand France’s history and military…. You just don’t fuck with them.
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Let's go! France is here to protect Canada!
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Na, they’re just finishing the 7years war-round 2
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Idk about that. Other commenters have better explanations that aren't sensational.
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The scale of these things is always fascinating. They're always much larger than I think they are.
For reference, I think that's a Suffren class, making it just shy of 100m, or a tad longer than a football field for my fellow Americans.
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perchance, banana for scale?
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It's a football field, Micheal. How big could it be, a banana?
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It's there, but hard to see.
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Whollottabanana!
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The previously-mentioned French article says it's a Barracuda, but I don't know if that's a model or a class.
And unsurprisingly, he also decided to offer the Royal Canadian Navy its "premium" model, the Barracuda, rather than the Scorpène.
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The Barracuda is (apparently) an export variant of the Suffren and is indeed a little shorter but still over 300 ft long.
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Canadian football fields are 100m, so just the right size for us!
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CFL fields are 110 yards, which is about 100m. Close enough I guess :)
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Current timeline feels like one alternative Red Alert timeline, where alongside of Hitler, Stalin also got erased from history, and now Russia and the US have turned fascistic.
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Red Alert has predicted the future, the presedency of the US is controlled by a russian
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And Putin didn't even need Yuri to do it
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There were some people wishing that stalin would join forces with hitler to take over the world and not separating shortly after.
We are in the echo of that timeline.
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Important note: The "Nuclear" in "Nuclear attack submarine" means that it is powered by a nuclear reactor. It does not refer to its armament. An "attack" submarine means it is designed to attack ships and other submarines and these are typically not capable of carrying and launching ICBMs. Nuclear-armed deterrent submarines are called Ballistic Missile Submarines.
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Don't forget all the cruise missiles - it's not just for attacking things at sea.
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Don’t tease me!
NOBODY backs an American Revolution like the French!
🇫🇷🦅🎆
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Fake
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Finally. Letting the French keep a little bit of Canada pays off.
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Pointing "am I a joke to you?"
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Fuck yeah.
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Fuck yes, France.
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Source?
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Here's a French article about it. It's not a show of force, it's a naval defense company showing off their submarine in the hopes of being granted a 60 billion dollar contract for 12 submarines that the Canadian government announced last summer.
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France
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I'm going to guess a shipyard
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Well this year is going just smoothly.
Better get that bug-out bag ready. Remember iodine tablets.
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I mean if Canada/France/the World want to get rid of him, I'm not gonna bat an eye? Just saying.
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During a period with seemingly very little good news in the world, I really needed this. Assuming it was done for the optics it conveys, it's some much needed reassurance that our allies actually have our back. Granted, we're still absolutely fucked in the short term if the worst happens, it's still nice to see.
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O hai!
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Time for Germany to upgrade and build more submarines.
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Despite the clear evidence pointing to the image being old, the photograph is still circulating on social media platforms and has been featured in Google searches related to the supposed annexation threat. This highlights how misinformation can easily spread online, especially when fueled by sensational claims and misleading images.
https://holrmagazine.com/french-submarine-halifax-photo-real-or-fake-explained/
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An article using random reddit comments as a source should be outright ignored, IMO.
Especially when said reddit comment has since been edited and no longer reflects what's written in the article. If you bother to follow the reddit link in the article, you'll find someone has replied with an actual source (from France) that shows that the photos are legit, however the title of this post (and the original posts on reddit) are misleading.
This isn't in reaction to American threats, it's a French naval defense company showing off their submarine in the hopes of obtaining a 60 billion dollar contract for twelve submarines that the Canadian government announced last summer.
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What the fuck would Canada, a non nuclear weapons country, want a nuclear sub for? Diesel battery subs are inherently stealthier because you can't turn a nuclear reactor off to go quiet and they don't need to stay submerged forever to hide where ballistic missiles are and they're not going to be power projecting to keep Iceland from sending another landing party with Erikson. It's not like Canada doesn't have an abundance of ports for refueling or a military vulnerability to oil embargos. It's not even compatible with their primary method of nuclear fuel since it requires nearly weapons grade refined uranium and the whole point of CANDU heavy water reactors is to not refine.
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Exactly. OP is super fake.
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France coming to save America once again!
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It's a French sub though so it probably only fires gag missiles that just have a white flag on a stick at the tip.
Jokes aside can you smoke on a sub? Cause I know a lot of the French still habitually smoke cigarettes and I imagine that would do a number on the oxygen system. Let alone the dangers of possibly setting fires in a pressurized container deep underwater.
