This is America. This is the foundation that holds up the Trump government and the Republican Party.
This is one sample visit to the conservative subreddit. It's an appalling example of the impact of disinformation. When you need to be reminded of who the enemy is and what they think, visit here. You will see that there is no gratitude or mutual respect, and there never was. There was never any concept of mutual benefit. And now, with Trump leading the cult, there truly is no depth to which they won't go, and no decisions from Trump that won't be retroactively justified.
These people are dangerous, and they don't give a shit about any alliances, friendship or partnership. And they control the levers of power.
Edit to add a screenshot. Not sure how to add more, but it doesn't get any better as you go deeper. What's clear is that this relationship is over, and we need to move on.
For real. The issues occurring in the US are various, but the vast spreading of disinformation in the US is crippling. Don't let unchecked lobbying (aka bribing of politicians) occur in your country, don't let "news organizations" spread false realities.
I kind of have pity for them. It's hard these days to see the lies from the truth when the vast majority of the media is owned by corporations who control the narrative, and cherry pick and spin the information to their own benefits. Then you add content pushing algorithms and AI to the mix. They get fed continuous content with similar interests. And also AI generated content that not only generates pretty convincing visuals but now also convincing articles, online posts and even direct conversations.
Anyone that lacks education and critical thinking skills can quickly get suckered into becoming conservative.
Would it surprise anyone if it was a Russian run subreddit. Heard moderation is heavy handed to quickly snuff out dissent with people having their conservative flairs taken away if they dare question dear leader who drinks the sun and eats the sky.
Fascists love AI generated slop, because it cuts the artist out of the art, so many of these might be real. Please be noted that platforms now often defend AI bots from countering, as they're now hiding comments with common jailbreak phrases (which are also trivial to filter by the bot operators).
1.1k effective downvotes in r/Conservative, that’s amazing even for explicit libtard comments. If that sub isn’t swallowing your Drumpf Deitification, you’re really and utterly stone bonkers.
The talking points might be, that supremacist US attitude is not. It's been there for decades.
Its not the Russians or Trump there is big part of the US that is hostile to anybody but their, imagined, version of America and places no real value on others even allies.
That’s true, but Russia is also very good at exploiting the enemy’s weaknesses. They don’t invent propaganda whole-cloth, they play on dark sentiments already present and boost them
Wow, so glad this brave American here could teach me so much about my own country. Let me just call up my drug dealing prime minister governor and demand that he fix Canada immediately lest we face more punishment from Poppa Cheeseball. Thank you r/conservative, I'd be so lost without you proper Americans leading the way.
I'm closer on the Mexican side of the country, but I'm gonna really miss having friendly neighbors. Sorry we've been so shitty lately to our northern and southern friends.
James O'Brien isn't my favourite talking head, but I do like his idea of having contempt for the conmen and compassion for the conned. These people have swallowed a lot of big lies and the fault is with the liars.
I agree that someone conned deserves compassion. You got tricked into sending someone money? Im sorry, even if it was dumb of you, im angry at the scammer.
But when you get scammed and the person who scammed you says theyre using your money for atrocious hateful acts, say making someones existence illegal, and you double down and say "well actually theyre right let me send more money, " you do not have any sympathy from me.
Nono, let these morons suffer their consequences. I hope they don't mind learning Russian because they're going to need it to communicate with their new masters.
You're 100% entitled (and right) to feel that way. But there are a lot of lies these people have been fed, often from birth, about for example white supremacy etc. that only education can really erase. Education is withheld by the same liars that profit from the hatred they whip up.
Now I'm not advocating for the softly, softly approach with them, I'm all for punching Nazis, and it's ultimately up to the individual what to believe. But these drones aren't the right target, it's the monsters that made them that way and hide behind them, the people in power advocating for e.g. religion and ethnonationalism to increase their power and profits. They are the root cause. And their first victims are these ignorant sheep forming a human shield around them. If I were to explain how much contempt I have for those people this would be a massive text wall that probably breaks Lemmy TOS.
If they were truely conned sure. But most of these guys just thought the pain would be placed on others, not them. They're fine woth others suffering, but the tears start to flow when they experience anything negative at all.
To some degree, sure. But these are adults with the capability and responsibility to think for themselves. It’s one thing to punch down on someone repeatedly for a mistake or being fooled, and yes, the majority of the fault lies with the deceiver, but these people aren’t stupid either. Trump and the rest of the Republican ilk made it clear what they’re about, and their actions speak louder than their rhetoric. If folks are foolish enough to believe him over and over again, the problem is just as much them as it is him.
It has been interesting to see "Canadian Conservatives", some of them top commenters, get viciously turned on by /r/conservative while lamenting about how this is hurting PP and the Conservatives movement in Canada.
I'm confused. The screenshot you shared just has two idiots sharing stupid opinions and 1.1 thousand/389 people (likely from the same subreddit) disagreeing with them.
I'm not saying the conservative subreddit isn't unhinged, but this feels pretty cherry picked.
Maybe share a photo of the most upvoted comments for a better reference?
If you spent time on other platforms like Threads you’d see a lot more of this being continuously spewed. It’s why I deleted my accounts on several services. While this might be a cherry picked example from that sub, the far right revisionist take is far, far more common on popular social media than you think.
Kinda wild. I really gotta leave and get out of this pile of a dumpster fire I'm in, and head to Canada or someplace. This screenshot is just insane. I have no words for what I'm seeing here in this screenshot.
Glad I no longer post to reddit anymore. May go ahead with a essentially full block of reddit and essentially all of Big TV outright at some point. I've thought about cutting off Big TV completely; as hearing from American news media has been driving me on the verge of outright mental insanity, but now seeing this tonight, it seems like I gotta cut Big TV outright.
I've never been so thankful and glad to be on Lemmy and Mastodon for this wild ride since the start. I'm realizing just how dire it is out there. Having to get this off my chest with nowhere to vent to. Now I just need to find a Lemmy community or something that helps with people coping with this insanity, because I might need to hide this community again otherwise for my sanity. I already had most of the news and politics communities hidden on Lemmy to manage the flow of insanity, but went back and forth on this one this week.
Pedo-Donald will try to annex Canada. For the first time of my life I'm considering getting a gun. We cannot trust conservatives anymore. Poilievre and mostly Ford are just playing the though guy card now to negociate a position, mark my words. Be prepare to fight.
Accept the annexation and in 10 years the entire US government will be run by Canadians. Just look at their entertainment industry, they can't resist our Canadian charms.
That subreddit is nothing more than an echo chamber. If you express an even slightly reasonable view, you get banned.
The only way for dissenting opinions to be expressed is with the downvote button, and even then most reasonable people avoid going there because it's so frustrating to read.
I mean, it tracks with their view of the Ukraine situation as well.
It also tracks with the general conservative mindset that the "in group" is protected by laws, but not beholden to them; while the "out group" is beholden to laws, but not protected by them.
Which all tracks with having the mindset of a toddler, free of any shred of empathy, where, until proven otherwise every other person in existence is by default just an NPC without agency or self-determination.
Added one. Couldn't see how to add more. I can appreciate that no one wants to give them traffic. It doesn't really matter because commenting there is highly restricted even if you have a reddit account in good standing. And the entire subreddit is incredibly fragile - you'll get permabanned for putting up anything that counters the tsunami of horseshit.
It's also best practice to add alt text in the square brackets:

Some apps and front ends will have a little image icon that can help you upload more images into the post / comment body
Personally, I automatically hate anyone that describes themselves as conservative, but you have to know that r/Conservative is not a very good representation of the entire group. It's EXTREME and one of the most blatant echo chambers I've ever witnessed; any dissent will earn you a ban from that sub.
I used to read it to see what conservatives were thinking. There used to be actual discourse in the comments about policy positions. It's now nothing more than brainrot and Russian trolls.