Nobody Wants a Nazi Electric Car

Don't give him any ideas!

I think he would be relieved to get rid of Tesla if someone would buy it. The full self-driving promise was always a matter of interpretation, and the cars they build are more expensive symbols of status than practical products. Tesla can’t compete with global EV manufacturers, that’s a Damocles sword waiting to fall.

SpaceX is where the money is now, and all the electric innovation Tesla did can be used for something else.

Like companies getting sued for not advertising on Twitter

You're right, that's not just technically untrue. The board voted with their wallet, by giving him even more money than ever, so he could continue doing what he is doing. The people on the board wouldn't give a shit if only Nazis buy their cars, as long as there's enough of them to keep buying.

You are 100% correct. They knowingly doubled down on him. They can all ride his coattails straight to hell.

Elon has always been a terrible person, but he was once focused on things that society actually needed, like electrifying transportation to avoid climate collapse.

He seems to have gone sharply downhill into total insanity by taking ketamine while locking himself in a rightwing echo chamber. It’s the perfect storm of dissociating from reality.

Knowing how badly Tesla has managed their supply chain, it's possible they paid for it in 2016.

I didn't know till ...tomorrow.

Dr Dorothy Bishop resigned from the Royal Society back in November 2024 because of Musk. Everybody knew. And being an FRS is a huge, huge deal to a British scientist.

Temporary plates could be someone moving out of state. Are you sure it was the latest model?

Man, talk about copium.

Damn, your temp plates are 90 days? Where do you live?

A man who has made his billions on being essentially a corporate welfare queen.

He sells a subscription-on-wheels. Any environment benefits are just gravy on top.

Apparently a big part of Tesla's business is selling carbon credits to other automakers... Which relies on them having a certain number of EV sales. If they drop below a threshold, then they can't sell those credits anymore.

He tied the financing of his loan to buy Twitter with Tesla shares, if they tank it pressures the Saudis to call in the billions they loaned him for the purchase. He'd survive, but it would embarrass him which would be funny.

Even worse is, he can use the government to sabotage the competition, as Russia and Hungary did.

so we can kill government workers and important people easier? i think elon Musk funded the failed trump assassinations /j

There is no shame in your ownership of the vehicle based on your intentions; I would humbly assert that anger is a more appropriate reaction to the current leadership of the company that made it. If strangers judge you, that’s on them.

If I had had the means to purchase one 10+ years ago, I would have. Most people who claim they wouldn’t are not being honest with themselves or disapproved of the virtue signaling associated with them at the time.

Don't feel ashamed. You did nothing wrong. Life failed you, not the other way around.

It’s crystal clear to me that Tesla played an important role at a key time, and pivoted the industry. The technology to do so had been there for a while but they lacked the will and they needed an innovator to scare them into action. Tesla did that. However, that role is now complete. I am flabbergasted that anyone still values this stock. Even setting aside this recent downturn in sales due to their brand going necrotic, they were already overmatched by the flood of competition coming their way. If major manufacturers don’t eat Tesla’s lunch, Chinese upstarts will. They can’t survive. They won’t survive. Even their supposed software advantage on self-driving has turned out to be a fraud, and the Simpertruck is a high profile failure. I’m glad that the stock hasn’t died yet though, because the rest of the world is still completing the transition to EVs, and the death of Tesla might put a chill on that. But in a few years, yeah, Tesla will blow away on the wind like so much dust.

This is me too. I have two of them bought and paid for and people just don't get it: I went all in on this and you can just sell for 15% of purchase price, I still have mobility needs. More to the point my swasticar still has access to the best charging network on the market and even if I COULD just sell, it's not cut and dry. It's easy to shit on Tesla, but it's still the best offering in the EV market for long range driving. And even if it was not, like fuck me I can't time travel. Most people who flame have no idea what the actual hell they are talking about.

I came really close back then, had a deposit but canceled due to realizing I had a perfectly good old car and didn't "need" one at the time. Hindsight says I lucked out.

If I did get it, and still had it (I would, I keep cars for 10+ years), I would probably rebadge it as an indicator of my dislike for what the brand has become.

I'd actually love to see a rebadging campaign by dissatisfied owners.

Maybe it’s time to get better at researching companies before major decisions. Do you have a system in place for doing background research on future large purchases?

That shame is no use unless it helps you update your behavior. Shame about a “one-off” decision in the past will continue to nag you until you figure out how to avoid the same mistake in the future.

So how can you avoid realizing ten years out that some big purchase you made supported someone you disagree with? How can you do it in advance?

Swasticars for a fascist government. Makes sense.

Problem is that Trump is on the oil companies' pay rolls. Unfortunately he's subsidizing them instead of Tesla.

https://www.theverge.com/news/617235/the-gsa-is-shutting-down-its-ev-chargers-calling-them-not-mission-critical

https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/22/24349650/trump-ev-tax-credit-tariff-congress

Fuck. What if Elon is just gonna start making weapons? Didn't he flaunt a flamethrower for his lame company years ago?

Boring*

They've probably had more recalls on the cyber truck than they've had sales of the cyber truck

Their cars are pretty good. That is not the problem.

All cars are bad. Combustion or not.

Q4 2024 was before all the overt nazi shit.

But I agree that calling it dead is premature.

2%

It's called inflation.

VWs never randomly caught fire. And also they don't look like if Transformers could somehow breed, but had an abortion.

I checked on where Edsel prices have gone. They mostly match inflation. Not a worthwhile investment as a car that people are interested in decades later because it's an infamous failure.

I would too, but you have to understand why the USA is blocking these cars from coming in. The cost of these cheap EVs are not based off of supply and demand. Its not even this cheap because of effectiveness or efficiencies. Its from the CCP subsidies. The CCP wants to dump on the competition in efforts to kill off anyone making a car, then start jacking up the price after they have market share.

You can fellate Winnie the Pooh on your own time. It comes with its own whole set of problems.

Edit: Come at me tankies. You're morons for giving a single dollar to the CCP.

German cars come from Carl Benz, who built the first automobile in 1885, four years before Hitlers birth.

Are either Ford or Mercedes currently run by Nazis? Can the average person on the street name the CEO of either of them?

The problem with Tesla is that everyone hates the guy who has made himself the face of the company at a time when there are plenty of alternatives.

I'm happy with my stereo being a glorified Bluetooth speaker

That is an insane take to me. Elon Musk is Nazi scum and the Tesla has issues, but the infotainment system is the best you can get in any car and the main reason I haven't been able to get rid of it, ignoring the fact that literally every other non Chinese EV in the same price range in my country is objectively worse specced.

Having an extremely responsive map with satellite imagery that boots up instantly is already better than every other car out there, but it also has built-in dashcam and livestream functionality for all 4 cameras, which is a removed to install in other cars, and it's already saved me a bunch of times.

Android Auto just plain sucks ass, disconnects constantly and a lot of newer models still require a wired connection.

Also worth noting you're not paying for the infotainment, you're paying for the cellular connection, with whatever local cellular company they are working with. In my case it's cheaper than getting a data plan directly from the cellular company and my old Hyundai didn't even have that option in my country.

Tesla is definitely dying unless they can turn this around quickly.
Surplus capacity is expensive, and I bet they are already operating at a loss. And turning around a bad reputation is hard.
Their models are dated, the cheap Tesla is cancelled, the Cybertruck is a catastrophic fiasco, and the model Y has already lost a lot of popularity, so even a new mode already said to be mostly a facelift, is unlikely to make a huge difference.
The drop in sales in January in EU is 50%, and they are losing market share in China and USA too. So I think the actual drop is higher now than 8%.
Note that for Nissan a 5% drop last year was called catastrophic!! And their survival is also questioned, and they are way bigger than Tesla.

It’s close to 50% drop in Europe. The EU has 500 million people. They may not know it yet but Tesla is on hospice care.

They're definitely dying in Europe. The YoY sale numbers are horrific.

It's not ironic necessarily. It's more the morons that hated EVs and Musk hated them because Trump did. Now that Trump loves them, they love them.

They're just weak-minded easily manipulated sheep who hurt when they have to think for themselves and they'd rather be told what to think.

That's @Daojoan@mastodon.social, for those who can follow Mastodon handles. Worth following!

Sounds like a creepy place

Yeah but that's the logic that the climate change denies also used.

"Global warming can't be real, as it snowed yesterday"

Why would he do that? He has the closest thing to absolute power that existed since the independance of the US, without even getting elected and he would loose everything : the non-Nazis won't forget what he did, and the Nazis won't accept him.

Are we writing fan fiction for the government now?

I like how it follows the tradition of all fan fiction in being totally inconsistent with established personality traits.

Your just gonna piss your ignorance all over this thread, like an old incontinent weiner dog, aintcha?

If you took a handgun from a Nazi, wouldn't that be a Nazi handgun?

I didn't think they are saying the car chose to be a Nazi

In the same sense that the kubelwagen was a nazi car. Now that I think about it, the kubelwagen kinda has similar lines to the cybertruck.

"Ignore your lying eyes."

Fuckin' Nazi apologists.

yeah, no evidence other than spreading antisemitism on x and litterær fucking heiling /s